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November NBA Season Thread - It's finally time

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DCX

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I have always liked Lamar's game, but he has to be consistant...he is one of the few players who can be "Magic" like and dare i say average a triple double.

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Fifty

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This forum has too many Laker fans. Damn you all. I don't hate them, but it's going to get pretty stale :(

*gets run over by the bandwagon*
 
Fifty said:
This forum has too many Laker fans. Damn you all. I don't hate them, but it's going to get pretty stale :(

*gets run over by the bandwagon*


there's a ton of Laker haters around too, they just aren't here NOW cause its hard to post with a foot in your mouth.
 

DCX

DCX
Fifty said:
This forum has too many Laker fans. Damn you all. I don't hate them, but it's going to get pretty stale :(

*gets run over by the bandwagon*
Not a Laker fan, i'm a Knick fan....but Lamar is from NYC :D

DCX
 
:lol @ Sir Charles damage control. that bitch has been hating on Kobe and the Lakers all year. "BUHBUHBUHBUH THE NUGGETS ARE OVERRATED!" Mihm>>>you ever were!
 

DMczaf

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bionic77

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Charles Barkley is funny as hell but he doesn't know a damn thing about basketball. Hell, he doesn't even watch half of the games he reports on. He is about as unprofessional as you can get and generally rides the jocks of people he is friends with.

And the Laker nation shouldn't get too full of themselves, it is only one half of the first game of the season. Though for the Lakers to be successful we need to have a really strong start this year.
 

DMczaf

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Denver Nuggets? More like the Denver Bricks!

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32.4% shooting :lol Man, and I thought the Rockets had a bad opening night.
 

Poody

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bionic77 said:
Is the Lakers defense going to be this good all season or are the Denver Nuggets just off (or bad)?

well if we can get divac and malone back by the end of this year then we should be fine!
 

Bat

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KMart looks terrible. Part of the problem with his development alongside Kidd is that he never built any consistent post moves, and it shows.
 

bionic77

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That block by Kobe was simply Roethlisbergeresque.

I can't believe how good their Defense looked tonight. Can't wait to see how they react to teams with a dominant low post presence.
 

Poody

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Ninja Scooter said:
seriously? Who was that guy that used to play center for us? The big fat black dude? Can't remember his name...

Snaq O'meal
 
"Kobe Bryant is like Oj Simpson" Seriously, if i ever see Barkley in public, he's getting a foot in the balls. Im not even joking.

quick question BTW: Does anyone know of ESPN NBA2k5 (ps2 ver) has downloadable roster updates? thinking of picking it up tommorrow.
 

Cloudy

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Ninja Scooter said:
"Kobe Bryant is like Oj Simpson" Seriously, if i ever see Barkley in public, he's getting a foot in the balls. Im not even joking.

quick question BTW: Does anyone know of ESPN NBA2k5 (ps2 ver) has downloadable roster updates? thinking of picking it up tommorrow.

Yah, Charles is a fucking asshole. And ESPN has roster updates for xbox and ps2. Hell ps2 players get their monthly downloadable update a week earlier >_<
 

Shinobi

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Kobe looking like Tayshun Prince tonight...had a couple of sick blocks. Lakers couldn't have asked for a better start.

Tomorrow I'm going to the Raptors season opener against the WINLESS Rockets. Should be a fun time. Be interesting to see if the Raps can push the ball up against the Rockets on a consistent basis with Gundy's defensive schemes.
 

DCX

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Well picked up Jarvis Hayes becuase of Leanard's injury...i was looking at my roster trying to figure out how to land Hayes without disrupting my team and now i don't need to.

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Seth C

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Shinobi said:
Kobe looking like Tayshun Prince tonight...had a couple of sick blocks. Lakers couldn't have asked for a better start.

Tomorrow I'm going to the Raptors season opener against the WINLESS Rockets. Should be a fun time. Be interesting to see if the Raps can push the ball up against the Rockets on a consistent basis with Gundy's defensive schemes.


Haha...maybe he learned something? Still, sure is nice to see someone use Tayshaun in a comparison like that. :)
 

DCX

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BatiGOOOOOOL said:
And Martin's overrated ass is already missing Jason Kidd.
You aint kidding, i love Martin ( Cincinatti product ) but he has no real o-game other than dunks :lol but he can run, and block shots like very few can.

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ChumsGum

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K-Mart will do fine once the Nuggets get to running the ball again. I think the Lakers defense with Mihm in the middle really surprised them and copletely took them out of their game.
 

Miguel

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*runs*

I deleted it!




















*me jumps in his anti-ban suit and speeds off in his BS-U-V. (Banstick-Unbannable-Vehicle)
 

Miguel

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He made me do it! :(











:p Actually, I'll send it to you on IRC when you get on. Or get home...whatever. Only the intro though, I'm not sending you the whole damn game. >:O
 

Cloudy

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One Crazy Night In The NBA
By Chad Ford
NBA Insider

Have NBA owners and GMs lost their minds?

A labor war is looming. Owners are claiming poverty. David Stern is vowing to rid the NBA of deadbeat contracts.

So what happens on Monday, the last day for NBA teams to work out extensions with players who began their rookie year in 2001?

Owners hand a jaw-dropping $390 million worth of contract extensions on Monday evening. Tracy McGrady (four years, $85.7 million), Zach Randolph (six years, $84 million), Jason Richardson (six years, $70 million), Tony Parker (six years, $66 million), Troy Murphy (six years, $60 million) and Brendan Haywood (five years, $25 million) all struck gold.

The averages? That's $65.11 million per player. No wonder the owners are all claiming they're broke. And that's not factoring in the $86 million Pau Gasol and Andrei Kirilenko each got earlier in the week, nor the $76 million Richard Jefferson landed or the $40 million Jamaal Tinsley signed for earlier in the fall.

Nor does it include the billions of dollars owners forked out this summer for free agents.

Billy Hunter, the head of the NBA Players Association, is going to laugh in their faces. The owners are begging for stricter gun laws while shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly.

The most amazing thing is that the owners know better. They are on the verge of getting a new CBA that will have fewer contract years, smaller raises and a reduced mid-level exception that will limit free agent movement. Was this a going away gift?

The McGrady extension had to happen. If it didn't, he would've opted out of his contract this summer and someone else would've paid him the cash.

The Parker deal actually was reasonable given the market. He's a 22-year-old point guard with a ring and would have been one of the hottest commodities on the free agent market next summer. The Spurs would have had to fork over a lot more cash to keep him next summer. With him the Spurs are a serious contender for the championship. He's worth the cash.

From there . . . it gets a lot more iffy.

Start with Randolph. Here's a kid who posted monster numbers last season but has the maturity of 12-year old. Anyone who knows Randolph claims he's a nice enough kid, but the emphasis is heavily on the kid part. He's been in the headlines for all the wrong reasons lately and seems like the poster child for all that has ailed the Blazers this past decade.

So what do the Blazers do? They go out and give him a near-max deal (actually it will hit $86 million if Randolph makes the All-Star team). Why? What was Randolph's leverage? His agent, Raymond Brothers, claimed that he'd sign the one-year tender and then bolt the Blazers in 2006. They bit on that apparently, and then gave him all the money that he wanted.

In fairness to the Blazers, the deal isn't really as big as it appears on the surface. As we reported yesterday, 30 percent of it (or $25 million dollars for the math-impaired) is deferred for an additional six years after the contract expires in 2011. But for cap purposes this contract reads like a straight max deal.

Randolph's contract, along with the ones the Blazers signed Theo Ratliff and Darius Miles to this summer take away any potential for cap space next summer – something that John Nash was adamant about keeping just six months ago.

Why? Nash explains: "We were very, very comfortable, knowing what we know about Zach Randolph, the person and the player, to go forward. Suffice it to say, we wouldn't have proceeded if we were uneasy."

Somehow I find that hard to swallow considering the things Blazers sources have been constantly telling me over the course of the past year. It might turn out to be a good deal for the Blazers in the long run with the deferred money . . . but Randolph's a risk, regardless of what the Blazers are saying now.

The Haywood deal just proves the old axiom that NBA teams always will overpay for seven-footers.

The Nets did it when they gave Jason Collins four years, $25 million and the Wizards did it with the Haywood contract. Haywood has done virtually nothing in his career. He's shown very few signs that he's going to get better. This is exactly the type of contract Stern despises, but it's also the NBA's old faithful. If you are big and have a pulse over 60, you're getting a big deal.

That leads us to what I like to call "Monday's Perfect Storm".

Mullin's latest head-scratching deals comes months after making Foyle, left, and Fisher, center, rich beyond belief.
On one side you have one of the most feared agents in the NBA, Dan Fegan, representing two players on the Warriors – Richardson and Murphy. Fegan, regardless of what you think about his methods, has an uncanny knack for getting extraordinary deals for his client.

Shandon Anderson, Howard Eisley, Austin Croshere, Erick Dampier . . the list of B-list players with A-list contracts keeps going on and on.

On the other side, you have the Warriors. Their history of handing out bad contracts is almost as long as their league-leading playoff drought. New GM Chris Mullin had already signed two of the worst contracts of the summer, that five-year, $40-million dollar Adonal Foyle deal and the six-years, $37 million pact he gave to Derek Fisher.

It wasn't a fair fight.

Fegan claimed he wanted both clients traded if they didn't work out a deal. Mullin claims he didn't panic, that he planned to hand out the $130 million worth of new contracts all along. Whatever.

Richardson's deal is huge, but it's within the realm of possibility. He put up great numbers in Golden State the past season has still has enough raw potential to become a star in a league. The Warriors paid a premium for it -- but so did the Nets with Jefferson, right?

Murphy's deal is one for the record books. Can you name the last player who missed 54 games in a season, has career averages of 8.9 ppg and 6.9 rpg and is rewarded with a huge deal like that? Murphy is a solid player who has proven that he can be a great rebounder when he's healthy.

But $60 million dollars?

And what for? Mullin has now spent more than $200 million dollars this summer locking up three players who have never been to the playoffs before and a fourth player who was a bit player on a former champion. He's determined to keep together a core of players who have never had a winning season.

Before the season, the Warriors were preaching change to the fans. Change from a horrendous streak of losing. Change from the bad contracts that former GM Garry St. Jean loved to sign. Change from the dysfunctional ways of one of the NBA's worst franchises.

Then they fired the only coach who's had any success there in the last decade, hired an unproven college coach, let their best center leave via free agency, signed Foyle to a ridiculous contract to compensate, overpaid Fisher and then locked the franchise into six years of the status quo by throwing $130 million at Richardson and Murphy.

People wonder why I'm down on the Warriors. Ladies and gentleman of the jury, I rest my case.

The Beat Goes On

Still not convinced that teams have lost their mind? On the same day that owners were handing out the GNP of a small country, two more overpriced, under-performing players hit the waiver wire.

Eddie Robinson and Bo Outlaw were bought out of their contracts. Robinson had two years, $14 million left on his contract. Outlaw had one year, $6.6 million left on his.

Earlier in the week, Eisley was bought out of the last two years, $14 million of his deal. And we all expect Anderson to be let go from the remaining three years, $24 million left on his deal.

Don't be confused by the waiver-wire thing. These teams are still on the hook for these players' contracts. The players might have given up a million or two for their freedom, but the team is on the hook for most of it. The players just don't have to suit up anymore.

You'd think that a laundry list of bad deals like that (two of which Fegan negotiated) would give an owner or two pause . . .

It didn't. Stern is right, the owners need protection from themselves. But it's hard to generate sympathy for successful businessmen who no longer seem capable of running their own business.

The Almost Deals

After that rant, it's probably hypocritical to criticize some teams that didn't get deals done by the deadline. For the most part, teams like the Bulls did the financially prudent thing in refusing to overpay for the potential of guys like Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler.

But there was one deal that didn't get done that could haunt the team down the road. The Sixers' inability to get Samuel Dalembert locked up could cause them some big problems down the road.

Agent Marc Cornstein claimed that the two sides did strike up negotiations again on Monday, but "we were still very far apart."

Cornstein was comfortable turning down the Sixers' offer in part because "we've taken a look at the free agent landscape and are pretty confident that the teams with cap room will be interested in Sammy."

He's right. Once the Warriors, Spurs and Wizards locked up their guys, the free agent pool shrunk. Teams like the Hawks, Cavs, Bobcats, Clippers and possibly the Sonics will head into the summer with significant cap room. The Hawks, Cavs, and Sonics in particular will be in the market for a big man and Dalembert might be the best one on the board come July 1st.

If he progresses at the pace he did last year (or even if he doesn't: see the big man axiom above), the Sixers could get taken to the cleaners. Factor in that the also have Willie Green and Kyle Korver hitting the free agent market and the Sixers could be the one team that actually ended up getting screwed by not coming to terms on a deal now.

QUOTE OF THE DAY

Who would've thought that we'd ever have a quote to rival Spree's ridiculous "I've got a family to feed" line from Monday. Well, Eddie Robinson's agent, Paul Collier, might have topped it on Tuesday.

Here's what Collier said about his client after the Bulls dumped Robinson and agreed to eat the remaining $14 million of his deal instead of having the forward rot away on the bench for the next two seasons.

"Eddie Robinson is about one word: winning and losing." Ummmm. . . .actually Paul he's just about losing.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
 

bionic77

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Incognito said:
Rockets got fucking spanked. :lol

Only one game, but the Rockets need more talent to seriously compete. They have an inferior version of Kobe/Shaq, and even that by itself wasn't enough. You still need to field at least 5 good players in addition to your superstars.
 
bionic77 said:
Only one game, but the Rockets need more talent to seriously compete. They have an inferior version of Kobe/Shaq, and even that by itself wasn't enough. You still need to field at least 5 good players in addition to your superstars.

Agreed. Yao, at best, can play for 25 minutes -- and Tmac, well, cleary practicing his shooting stroke during the offseason was not a part of his agenda. Afterall, it probably interruped his allocated 4 hours a day to bitch and whine about his former team.
 
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bionic77

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Cloudy said:
Am I crazy to think the Lakers will beat the Jazz tonight and the Spurs on Friday to go 3-0? :D

No, I could easily see them at 3-0. Then again, before this season started I thought they might have gone 0-3 as well. I really want to see the Spurs game to see how the Lakers defense deals with Duncan. They sure as hell cannot turn the ball over as much as they are doing now though and expect to go far in the playoffs. Going to be an interesting season for the Lakers. :D
 

Cloudy

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Piston: It looks like Kobe's inviting some hotel skanks to join him in a dark alley :lol

Bionic: Utah is missing their 2 best PGs so I assume Bell will start at 1 for them tonight. It should throw off their game a bit. The Spurs always start slow so I'm thinking LA beats them too :D
 

DMczaf

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Bothered by a strained left hamstring, Shaquille O'Neal said he would decide before tipoff whether he would play in the Miami Heat's opener Wednesday night against the New Jersey Nets.

"It's feeling pretty good. I practiced OK this morning," O'Neal said after the team's morning shootaround. "It's kind of sore, but it's feeling OK. I'm going to stretch, eat some pudding and some ice cream, and then I'll think about it."

O'Neal sat out practice for four consecutive days after aggravating the injury, which has hampered him throughout the preseason.

He estimated himself to be about 70-75 percent of full strength.

"I can't run as fast, I can't move laterally as fast," O'Neal said. "It's very frustrating. I worked very hard, put in a lot of work, but injuries like this won't last forever."

On Tuesday, Heat coach Stan Van Gundy said the team would make a game-time decision on O'Neal's availability.

"If he's healthy, he'll play," Van Gundy said. "If not, he won't."

:lol Shaq rocks! Ice Cream and Pudding for all!
 
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