funkystudent
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I dont think so.
Seems like a dumb rule.
For companies like this I think maybe it makes sense to have that kind of rule for the top talent / champions but for everyone else who it doesnt seem smart.
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I dont think so.
Seems like a dumb rule.
For companies like this I think maybe it makes sense to have that kind of rule for the top talent / champions but for everyone else who it doesnt seem smart.
FEEL THE POWER OF THE NEW DAY
K Mart is weird to me. They're dedicated and marketed to the poors, yet are more expensive than pretty much every store like it besides Target, and even that depends on the product. They're also trashy as shit and have a floor model straight out of 1986. Generally the same floor, too. And lights. And shelves.
¡HarlequinPanic!
Member
K-mart wants its customers to feel like first class citizens, bruv.
Make Raw a show cater towards young adults and teens and have smackdown as a more family friendly show.
PPV events bring both products together so different audience groups can see both sides to see what is hot or not.
Allow both the writers and talent to take risks with stories and gimmicks that can appeal to different audiences.
Singularity42
Member
Wyatt Ambrose is a fresh matchup and I really don't give any fucks about. There's something seriously wrong when you can't get hyped for that. The Shield Wyatts was great so you'd think Dean Bray would be the same. It's pathetic how they squander talent.
Serpentine
Banned
Six months ago, Dean/Bray would've been a hot as fuck feud
Look at simply like the entrances in NXT. They do so much experimental stuff there, and not just big stuff, all the little details. Like Tyler Breeze's cellphone tron, announcing Bayley as "It's Bayley", the spotlights and blinding lights in Baron Corbin's entrance, the Vaudevillains' entrance etc.
When you don't have that limiter on you, the creative freedom is really noticeable.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
At the SD taping, a new stip was added to the SS main event: if Team Cena loses, everybody on the team is fired
You know, just in case you really didn't know who would win
You know, just in case you really didn't know who would win
Bu-bu-but the stakes have never been higher!
bitesnintendog
Member
Doesn't ROH use guys who don't have a contract with them?
slightconfuse
Banned
Bray is all sizzle no steak. He has been in a rut for months now, not really setting the world on fire in the ring. Nothing interesting about him the mystique has worn off. He is just babbling bray now
Ambrose has lost all momentum and has been give some bad stuff by creative.
Ambrose has lost all momentum and has been give some bad stuff by creative.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Everyone's lost to Cena though, I think Bray without his two henchmen isn't as imposing a character. Dudes great in the ring and on the mic and so is Ambrose, just seems like the wrong time I guess. Ambrose really should have been part of the team taking down The Authority/Rollins and Bray should be using Harper and Rowan as chess pieces one on each team to just fuck everyone up.
He'd get some serious heel heat if he was the reason The Authority stayed in power. WWE could be doing something like this but I really fucking doubt it.
If the authority loses they have to work for TNA.
slightconfuse
Banned
THe opeing match to suviro seris 95 is amazing.
Captain: Marty Janeety, hakushi, Bob holly and barry horowitz vs Chris Candido, Rad radford, Tom Pritchard and 123 Kid
how did these teams come together
Captain: Marty Janeety, hakushi, Bob holly and barry horowitz vs Chris Candido, Rad radford, Tom Pritchard and 123 Kid
how did these teams come together
That sounds fine. I imagine Vince softened the brand to appease the sponsors and to make his wife's political campaigns more palatable.
Personally, I don't ever want a return to Mae Young's pregnancy and Katie Vick, but you can certainly do a more adult-themed show without resorting to garbage like that.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Does anyone think the quality of wrestling on NXT has had an adverse effect on Raw/Smackdown?. Or is it that NXT is just the right length and ends before you get to the 80-90 minute mark where you wonder what the fuck you are doing with your life?.
If Lucha Underground continues to be awesome as well I'd group that in with NXT as a short and super sweet.
If Lucha Underground continues to be awesome as well I'd group that in with NXT as a short and super sweet.
slightconfuse
Banned
Seeing doc hendrix, model a suvivor series shirt. WWE should sell vintage shirts
I would throw money at the screen so hard at a razor ramon shirt.
Best part about the Katie Vick story was that their was a funeral going on in the next room during filming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teuEgJPCepQ#t=68
slightconfuse
Banned
anyone know how WWE began working with All japan women?
AJA Kong in the WWE is rad
AJA Kong in the WWE is rad
nooooooooooooooooo
In an ideal world, it'd be great if RAW and Smackdown followed the NXT model and both shows go to one hour. Main Event isn't bad either, just uninspired. When Main Event started to air on the network it did heat up pretty well for a while. Not as good as it was months ago but I still watch it.
Superstars should either be shelved or mimic Main Event because two matches and then nothing but RAW recaps is pretty much sucky, IMO.
I don't see RAW going to 2 hours, or even an hour, anytime soon. I'm sure there's big money involved going to 3 hours. But this isn't the Monday Night Wars anymore... why is WWE still in that mode besides a financial reason?
Superstars should either be shelved or mimic Main Event because two matches and then nothing but RAW recaps is pretty much sucky, IMO.
I don't see RAW going to 2 hours, or even an hour, anytime soon. I'm sure there's big money involved going to 3 hours. But this isn't the Monday Night Wars anymore... why is WWE still in that mode besides a financial reason?
funkystudent
Member
So.... who is going to be the next GM of RAW then?
Sting?
Actually could work as a starting people for the Triple H / Sting WM feud.
Sting?
Actually could work as a starting people for the Triple H / Sting WM feud.
WWE should sell Michael Hayes to the Black Panther Party.
slightconfuse
Banned
Undertaker, Savio Vega, Fatu and Henery Godwin. What a team
vs Jerry lawler, Issac yankem, Mabel and HHH
vs Jerry lawler, Issac yankem, Mabel and HHH
Serpentine
Banned
Daniel Bryan
GM Cena
cena has survived being fired once he can do it again
too bad for the other losers though
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
I just want my cruiserweights back. Please give me my cruiserweights
I'd rather they just faze out big slow dudes.
Paul Hayman, that way they can make Brock fight even less and have Hayman just troll people with it. Set up the Brock HHH feud for the GM spot.
I get it on some level, and if their PPV business and New Japan partnership has increased their revenues substantially, perhaps they are able to pay their talent more.
And yeah, does this include PWG? Seems silly to do that. Cross-promotional talent is a positive for both companies.
Pollock made a good point on Review-a-Raw...
He said that "there are no dream matches" in the WWE because they burn through everything. This is a product of the amount of content they have to produce too.
When your product feels as bloated as it does, it's hard to make anything feel exciting or must-see.
After listening to the podcast, and actually having some extra time tonight, I skimmed through the parts of Raw I was interested in seeing.
Good stuff I went out of my way to watch:
-Harper vs. Ziggler
-Ryback vs. Cesaro
-Rusev, Lana, and Slater...I literally burst out laughing when Rusev drilled Slater with that kick after all of Slater's grand standing. Lana was also great.
Okay stuff that kept my interest:
-Ambrose and Wyatt promo
-Grumpy Cat and Mizdow...minus the pointless Rowan thing
Bloated stuff that I quickly skimmed through:
-Opening and closing segments
Fast forward stuff that didn't warrant any attention at all based on online feedback and what I saw quickly moving past my screen:
-Everything else (Divas, Sheamus, Big Show, tag match, Adam Rose, and whatever else)
I was able to get through everything in a little over an hour.
He said that "there are no dream matches" in the WWE because they burn through everything. This is a product of the amount of content they have to produce too.
When your product feels as bloated as it does, it's hard to make anything feel exciting or must-see.
After listening to the podcast, and actually having some extra time tonight, I skimmed through the parts of Raw I was interested in seeing.
Good stuff I went out of my way to watch:
-Harper vs. Ziggler
-Ryback vs. Cesaro
-Rusev, Lana, and Slater...I literally burst out laughing when Rusev drilled Slater with that kick after all of Slater's grand standing. Lana was also great.
Okay stuff that kept my interest:
-Ambrose and Wyatt promo
-Grumpy Cat and Mizdow...minus the pointless Rowan thing
Bloated stuff that I quickly skimmed through:
-Opening and closing segments
Fast forward stuff that didn't warrant any attention at all based on online feedback and what I saw quickly moving past my screen:
-Everything else (Divas, Sheamus, Big Show, tag match, Adam Rose, and whatever else)
I was able to get through everything in a little over an hour.
I liked how they didn't ignore Chyna.
I was expecting them just to blur her face out of everything.
njean777
Member
The problem is Deans character. This week on Raw demonstrated that. He was just like fuck all this magic garbage and rambling and lets just fight. Dean feud isn't working well with Bray because he doesn't come off as a guy who has a lot of regrets of his past. He isn't easily manipulated by the smoke and mirrors bullshit.
slightconfuse
Banned
Diesel Bret isn't that bad
Razor is still better than diesel tho
Razor is still better than diesel tho
Random, but I don't think PG is the problem at all with the WWE. It's just that nothing is compelling. Their shows feel totally devoid of energy. It's all so monochrome, samey, and bloated. Feuds and wrestlers get overexposed with all of the TV time available to them now, the writing is often shit, and the commentary is AWFUL.
I paid close attention to the commentary team during the Ryback and Cesaro match, and they spent more time discussing what's at stake at Survivor Series than the match itself. The thing is, the commentary feels disconnected from what's happening right in front of them. Instead of telling the story the viewers are watching, they tell all of the peripheral stuff that totally takes you out of the moment.
Just call the damn match and drop in important details about what's at stake.
Example:
"Ryback with a massive clothesline! He's in impressive form and would be a great asset to team Cena at Survivor Series. Both men are down now. The crowd is clearly behind Ryback, but let's not count out Cesaro just yet in this match. This is the man who picked up The Big Show at Wrestlemania XXX..."
Probably better than that, but you get a basic idea at least.
I paid close attention to the commentary team during the Ryback and Cesaro match, and they spent more time discussing what's at stake at Survivor Series than the match itself. The thing is, the commentary feels disconnected from what's happening right in front of them. Instead of telling the story the viewers are watching, they tell all of the peripheral stuff that totally takes you out of the moment.
Just call the damn match and drop in important details about what's at stake.
Example:
"Ryback with a massive clothesline! He's in impressive form and would be a great asset to team Cena at Survivor Series. Both men are down now. The crowd is clearly behind Ryback, but let's not count out Cesaro just yet in this match. This is the man who picked up The Big Show at Wrestlemania XXX..."
Probably better than that, but you get a basic idea at least.
Thing is, they could have worked that hard if they wanted to. Stealing fantasy booking from John Pollock here, but why didn't Bray HELP Ambrose at HiaC if he wanted him to join him and/or "save" him?
Playing off that, you could have had Ambrose pushing back and rejecting Wyatt's involvement. Then you could have had skits of Wyatt maybe visiting Dean's childhood home and cutting promos from there to play with Dean's mind a bit more. Bring in the deadbeat dad angle and maybe even have someone pretend to play Dean's dad. Go all in on this instead of just TALKING. Fucking SHOW us and make us feel something.
Commentary team gave up on the Cesaro match because the booking was shitty.
Ryback is a horrible worker when compared to Cesaro and he was thrown around way too much for his gimmick. Ryback should come in and fucking destroy people build him up enough heat so that when you book him against somebody big you go in not knowing who will win.
5 minutes into the match they should have told the ref to tell them to finish the match quickly.
Remember what happened last time Cena was fired?
Buff Bagwell
QueenOfThorns
Member
FUCK. Smackdown's are worse than Raw when it comes to commercials and shit. It's TAPED. Why do you have to have 8000 commercials!?
(It was pretty fun either way.
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(It was pretty fun either way.
No one's gonna like that Cesaro jobbed out in like five minutes, but
Rowan uses the torture rack as his new finisher. I marked out.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Watching a live from Playstation stream of 2K15. Duder is shitting on Rusev saying he looks like a used car salesman from Croatia :lol
people can't enjoy Bray vs Ambrose because the internet eventually turns on absolutely everyone