Lambda Pie
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which is the ultimate prize in wrestling. the man himself, Nash, knew it all the way back in the 90s.
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which is the ultimate prize in wrestling. the man himself, Nash, knew it all the way back in the 90s.
JesseEwiak
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Because Cena was injured, Bryan would make a good match and a sympathetic babyface for a few months while they moved on to the true storyline - Orton/HHH/Big Show and I'm sure, Cena eventually.
In all reality, I'm sure they had plans to make Bryan a big star. Then, the ratings and buyrates came in. And he was shunted back off to where he belonged. A true star would overcome bad booking and writing. After all, John Cena gets plenty of crappy jokes written for him, but somehow, people still tune into RAW to watch his matches.
JesseEwiak
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Hey, the funniest thing is that tomorrow morning, Bryan's going to wake up in a nice hotel room next to a beautiful woman before going out and doing what he loves while being well paid for it. Believe me, people in this thread care a lot more about his 'horrible booking' then I'm sure he does.
That's because he's been pushed harder than anyone else in wrestling history for 8 years.
Dark Ninja
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Thats because Cena has been force fed down people's throat for over a decade now. There's alot of WWE revisionist history that Cena had to work hard to get where he is but he got pushed from day one. Regular people want to cheer winners and thats what Cena does all the time, he destroys everybody no matter if he has to face the whole roster at the same time so people "like" him. Cena is beyond protected he never loses. Bryan got a beat down on tv weekly and only got revenge by letting the Big Show do his work for him. Also all of his "wins" were either reversed or taken away somehow, of course people aren't gonna buy PPVs when they've been jerked around. WWE isn't gonna push anybody new until Cena is gone.
Holy shit, Kane has turned heel 24 times. That's a record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eggHrvQ0gdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eggHrvQ0gdo
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Thats because Cena has been force fed down people's throat for over a decade now. There's alot of WWE revisionist history that Cena had to work hard to get where he is but he got pushed from day one. Regular people want to cheer winners and thats what Cena does all the time, he destroys everybody no matter if he has to face the whole roster at the same time so people "like" him. Cena is beyond protected he never loses. Bryan got a beat down on tv weekly and only got revenge by letting the Big Show do his work for him. Also all of his "wins" were either reversed or taken away somehow, of course people aren't gonna buy PPVs when they've been jerked around. WWE isn't gonna push anybody new until Cena is gone.
Arrowgigantic
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Let me explain you a Ron Paul
JesseEwiak
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Actually, Cena got pushed, then was thrown in the midcard grinder and was on the verge of release (even according to Meltzer) before he came up with the white rapper gimmick. Then, yeah, he got over, but he was still treated like a joke in the road to the Cena/HHH Wrestlemania match, with Triple H saying he couldn't wrestle and everything else.
Also, he's tall, good looking, visits with sick children, and is entertaining on morning TV. As for the rest, that's been WWE booking of Top Faces since Sammartino. If you want a fed where top faces fail all the time, go back and watch some NWA during the 80's.
Yet, he jobbed to Bryan clean. Nobody praised him for that. It was all, "oh I'm sure he'll come back and beat Bryan in two months."
Again, Big Show has a storyline people can relate too. What's relatable about a weird guy with an out of his league girlfriend who eats wheat grass? I love Bryan, but in his current state, he's not a main event guy, and the numbers even directly after Summerslam showed that, before he got beat down.
As for pushing somebody new. They will. It just won't be people you'll like.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Also, he's tall, good looking, visits with sick children, and is entertaining on morning TV. As for the rest, that's been WWE booking of Top Faces since Sammartino. If you want a fed where top faces fail all the time, go back and watch some NWA during the 80's.
because he's WWE's reckoning.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Snowman Prophet of Doom
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The ratings didn't sag. Bryan's segments were pretty much always the highest-rated for the months that Cena was gone, and ratings were high at the start of the whole Corporation thing. Summerslam's buyrate was disappointing, but it was Bryan's coming out, not his apotheosis, and it was close to SS 2011, which was headlined by CM Punk, who's now their #2 guy after successfully being pushed with the title for a year. If they actually blame Bryan for Night of Champions/Battleground/HIAC, and not their shit booking of those events, I'd be surprised, as they very manifestly didn't consider those to be anything more than high-budget house shows to tide them over until Survivor Series.
I think they just saw post-SS as a poor time to try and push a new star, given the lull period (in terms of ratings/business/general giving a shit) that follows it, so they had him beat a Cena who had to leave anyway, given his injury, gave him a main event storyline while trying not to overexpose him, and shifted the big push to a company loyalist likely near the end of his run who had the acting chops to get over, the name recognition to get the fans behind him in a short period of time, yet could go away when they needed him to. I have to think they did eventually intend to push Bryan, given his beating Cena, three months of main events, and then being folded into the protective Punkverse, but whether they actually get back to pushing him is another matter entirely. He's still VERY over with the crowd, as tonight showed, and could easily be credible, say, winning the Rumble, and you could easily get Cena in there and make a triple threat if you're truly worried about star power, but perhaps the SS buyrate scared them off of the idea of making him the #2 babyface.
Who knows? I guess I'll just try enjoy this Big Show thing, enjoy the fun of Bryan and Punk teaming together, and hope for some more watchable matches like we got tonight.
I think they just saw post-SS as a poor time to try and push a new star, given the lull period (in terms of ratings/business/general giving a shit) that follows it, so they had him beat a Cena who had to leave anyway, given his injury, gave him a main event storyline while trying not to overexpose him, and shifted the big push to a company loyalist likely near the end of his run who had the acting chops to get over, the name recognition to get the fans behind him in a short period of time, yet could go away when they needed him to. I have to think they did eventually intend to push Bryan, given his beating Cena, three months of main events, and then being folded into the protective Punkverse, but whether they actually get back to pushing him is another matter entirely. He's still VERY over with the crowd, as tonight showed, and could easily be credible, say, winning the Rumble, and you could easily get Cena in there and make a triple threat if you're truly worried about star power, but perhaps the SS buyrate scared them off of the idea of making him the #2 babyface.
Who knows? I guess I'll just try enjoy this Big Show thing, enjoy the fun of Bryan and Punk teaming together, and hope for some more watchable matches like we got tonight.
Bryan failing at SS might be because they kept referring to him as a troll or as a short, small goatface, or that he wasn't very good. If you keep having your talent and announcers put him down, the fans will start to believe it. Bryan was never going to be a Cena-type player but they could have backed him 100% and things might have turned out a tad better.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Libertarian / Korporate Kane can be a legit cool gimmick. Too bad WWE will fuck it up.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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First wrestling-inspired Ben & Jerry's flavor's going to be named Ripple H.
The naming was on a circular graphic that went round and round. The screencap was just taken at a bad moment.Never knew that Sin Cara worked with the WWE back then.
Net_Wrecker
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Me either. I know we joke a lot in here, but I'm dead serious when I say.....I don't understand. it's The Big Show. Why are people
Why do they
Why
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The WWE is pushing him. There are a group of people that will support whoever they push.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Big Show is badass bro. He ain't no pretty boy, ain't no boy toy. Just goes there week in and week out to raise hell, and stomp mudholes through his opponents.
Professor Beef
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I was at work, what happened tonight? Why is Bionic-Arm's post on this page the greatest post I have ever seen?
JesseEwiak
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What's not great about a giant punching people in the face?
Well, I admit, it does have the deep intellectual analysis I expect out of knee-jerk anti-Cena smarks.
LOL, first main event rivalry I start is Cena vs Bryan for the WWE Championship, Cena as champ. They give me a submission match as the first week's contest and at the end of the match after Bryan wins a hard fought battle he goes to shake Cena's hand who refuses the code of honor.
See you next week on Thunder.
See you next week on Thunder.
Net_Wrecker
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JesseEwiak is clearly the WWE plant.
Stro, if you're still wondering where DOT COM gets their articles from, there you go.
Case closed. That mystery just got Wrecked
Stro, if you're still wondering where DOT COM gets their articles from, there you go.
Case closed. That mystery just got Wrecked
Serpentine
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I know, right?
just imagining this is super hilarious to me
LOL Sin Cara
The version that just zooms into Cena's face is even better
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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One Cenation under Vince McMahon's ego, Amen.
sf2fanatic
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F'n sellout...
So
Triple H is Vince McMahon
Stephanie is Vince McMahon
The Shield are Big Bossman and Ken Shamrock
Big Show is Stone Cold
Randy Orton is The Rock
and Kane is Mankind
It's like TNA trying to recreate Attitude era with a bunch of faces you've seen a thousand times before. Except it's not TNA. It's WWE.
Triple H is Vince McMahon
Stephanie is Vince McMahon
The Shield are Big Bossman and Ken Shamrock
Big Show is Stone Cold
Randy Orton is The Rock
and Kane is Mankind
It's like TNA trying to recreate Attitude era with a bunch of faces you've seen a thousand times before. Except it's not TNA. It's WWE.
JesseEwiak
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Nah, I'm just the Voice of the Voiceless. That just means on NeoGAF, I defend John Cena and members of the game press.
Game press needs defending. Did you see those monsters didn't give Sessler a free PS4? Are they trying to ruin the man's life?
Professor Beef
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You would do the same.
Cool, another Cena fan! Welcome to the Cenation, brother.
Shadowlink
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Are we going to get state of the union addresses from Kane?
sf2fanatic
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Orton tried his best to be Rick Rude tonight..
F that... That's like people telling me to only use Guile or El fuerte...Hell No... going out like a rebel Blanka, E Honda status. I'll riot if taker does this
JesseEwiak
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The ironic thing is I was probably watching Punk & Danielson matches when most of the people in this thread weren't allowed to stay up 'til the end of RAW.
He even cuts promos like Cena. 'You disagree with me therefore you are clearly young.'
Net_Wrecker
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Lucky he didn't call us "kids" or belittle our accomplishments since we haven't beat him yet.
FallingEdge
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this business is ruthless
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this business is ruthless