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November Wrasslin' |OT| Survival Season Without The G

I like ska sometimes, but admittedly not as much as I used to. A lot of it is totally corny but it's still fun live so WHATEVER. Socal has a lotta ska fans and bands so you can't really help it. In fact, I'm seeing Less Than Jake in a few weeks. With ANTI-FLAG.

Also whoa Crass on ads? Don't think I've seen that before
 
Antonio Honda (c) vs Super Sasadango Machine - DDT Extreme Title Sleep Deathmatch

Not quite as bizarre/hilarious as the Bread Eating Deathmatch, but this Sleep Deathmatch is well worth a watch, wrassleGAF bros.

Net_Wrecker said:
How was the New Japan show, doods?

I still haven't had time to watch it, but I heard it was pretty good. The crowd apparently weren't into Suzuki vs Nakamura, for some reason, which hurt the match a bit.

Bo's character is more entertaining.

That's no character, that's just Bo.

*shudders*
 
In a bizzare chain of events I ended up watching Triple H in his blockbuster role earlier today, that's right, old Owl endured "The Chaperone" as myself and others were curious to see how Trips 20 minute opening promo powers translate to the big screen.
Its clear that HHH has trouble expressing emotions, there are points where Haitch in his role as Mr Bradstone is supposed to feel depressed, sad or concerned yet his facial expressions for all these events is like the one he gives the handshake desiring Miz in that wonderful gif, the face of not really giving a shit. This is possibly because if WWE has shown us anything is that HHH never faces defeat, he always wins, when the movie script calls for a moment of weakness or defeat he just can't find the right face to pull even with years on television to back him up because those years showered him with no such experience for such moments.
What HHH can do is get angry, unfortunately the script has Hunter as a changed man fresh out of prison, he's spent his incarceration reading books on how to be a nice guy and his character actually sticks to this for most of the movie negating Helmsley from actually performing the one emotion he does pretty well.

The films cringe factor is off the charts, miss and bigger miss humour, a detestable cast of brats that best jobber villains, learning about dinosaurs with Paul Levesque and ultimately despite cocking everything up and making poor decisions all movie long HHH still manages to come up on top and win everything back that he had lost, so just like watching Raw then.

The strangest thing is how Mr H's wife has moved on and is with some chump called Marvin (a name that Trips chuckles at like it's a bad gimmick) for most of the movie, the last we see of Marvin is him about to propose to the women whose name I can't recall but she is sidetracked from this event by the news reporting dangerous actions from Hunter Hearst Bradstone that has her leave the house to save her daughter. We never see Marvin again and HHH ends the movie on a date with his old wife, WHAT THE FUCK?! MARVIN GOT BURIED OFF SCREEN!

Fun fact: While in prison we get to see HHH with a slightly Bryan style goatface.

Overall I'd give it 2 shovels outta 5 since as a cheesy family film its competent enough.

Rumbles after 1997 all suffer from there being no chance for 27 of the guys in the match. Kane was dominating, but there was no way he was going to win. It had to be Austin or Rock. And that takes a lot away from the match. I wish they'd go for a real underdog or totally out of left field guy to win it for next year's Rumble. A guy who isn't an established main eventer and multiple time champion. Someone like Cesaro or a Shield member. Not a Cena/Punk/Sheamus/ADR/Shoe/D-Bryne group.
Unfortunately this a regular event of Rumbles these days where only a handful of wrestlers really have a chance of winning , ADR was the only swerve winner in recent memory unless we count surprise returns with Edge and Cena which we don't because they were clearly there to win from the moment their music hit. Rumbles where the winner is too blatant like Orton in 2009 are hurt from this but otherwise 2001 is still pretty fun for the talent in the match on the whole, compared to the previous 2 rumbles (especially 1999) it's at least got a wider variety of main event and upper card talent making it fun in its own way. Then again I love that time period and roster far too much to not enjoy it.
 

G-Fex

Member
In a bizzare chain of events I ended up watching Triple H in his blockbuster role earlier today, that's right, old Owl endured "The Chaperone" as myself and others were curious to see how Trips 20 minute opening promo powers translate to the big screen.
Its clear that HHH has trouble expressing emotions, there are points where Haitch in his role as Mr Bradstone is supposed to feel depressed, sad or concerned yet his facial expressions for all these events is like the one he gives the handshake desiring Miz in that wonderful gif, the face of not really giving a shit. This is possibly because if WWE has shown us anything is that HHH never faces defeat, he always wins, when the movie script calls for a moment of weakness or defeat he just can't find the right face to pull even with years on television to back him up because those years showered him with no such experience for such moments.
What HHH can do is get angry, unfortunately the script has Hunter as a changed man fresh out of prison, he's spent his incarceration reading books on how to be a nice guy and his character actually sticks to this for most of the movie negating Helmsley from actually performing the one emotion he does pretty well.

The films cringe factor is off the charts, miss and bigger miss humour, a detestable cast of brats that best jobber villains, learning about dinosaurs with Paul Levesque and ultimately despite cocking everything up and making poor decisions all movie long HHH still manages to come up on top and win everything back that he had lost, so just like watching Raw then.

The strangest thing is how Mr H's wife has moved on and is with some chump called Marvin (a name that Trips chuckles at like it's a bad gimmick) for most of the movie, the last we see of Marvin is him about to propose to the women whose name I can't recall but she is sidetracked from this event by the news reporting dangerous actions from Hunter Hearst Bradstone that has her leave the house to save her daughter. We never see Marvin again and HHH ends the movie on a date with his old wife, WHAT THE FUCK?! MARVIN GOT BURIED OFF SCREEN!

Fun fact: While in prison we get to see HHH with a slightly Bryan style goatface.

Overall I'd give it 2 shovels outta 5 since as a cheesy family film its competent enough.

Whattareviewthere!

Would you say that HHH has a future in hollywood or straight to dvd?
 

strobogo

Banned
It was a SWERVE, but Sheamus was also an established main eventer and former champion and is still part of the problem of Rumble winners.
 

tm24

Member
Man, punk and ska hate. What is going on here?

I went to a Streetlight Manifesto show like 3 weeks ago. Such a fun night
 
Whattareviewthere!

Would you say that HHH has a future in hollywood or straight to dvd?

He has a future in movies that require an acting range from slightly annoyed to burying levels of rage. Anything that requires a wider variety of emotions is off the table.
Fortunately in today's movie climate i'm sure there's many a starring role he could fit into as an aggressive man who beats everyone up, perhaps WWE films should create their own superhero universe with Cena and Triple H leading the charge as Captain Respect and Hammer Hands for example, Kane's classic Jacob Goodnight character could be like a villain and they'll all cross over to create the cinematic equivalent of Wrestlemania with the same winners to boot.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
He has a future in movies that require an acting range from slightly annoyed to burying levels of rage. Anything that requires a wider variety of emotions is off the table.
Fortunately in today's movie climate i'm sure there's many a starring role he could fit into as an aggressive man who beats everyone up, perhaps WWE films should create their own superhero universe with Cena and Triple H leading the charge as Captain Respect and Hammer Hands for example, Kane's classic Jacob Goodnight character could be like a villain and they'll all cross over to create the cinematic equivalent of Wrestlemania with the same winners to boot.
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Man God

Non-Canon Member
I got to disagree with Stro on this one. Besides the very early RR's that weren't for a title shot and literally anyone could win there have been at most five people who could likely win the RR. The only brief time period where it expanded was during the dog days of the brand split where there might have been 3-4 viable winners from each brand but even that wasn't really the norm.

So Stro is basically right on premise but not on the actual date.
 

strobogo

Banned
I got to disagree with Stro on this one. Besides the very early RR's that weren't for a title shot and literally anyone could win there have been at most five people who could likely win the RR. The only brief time period where it expanded was during the dog days of the brand split where there might have been 3-4 viable winners from each brand but even that wasn't really the norm.

So Stro is basically right on premise but not on the actual date.

There are 15-20 guys that are immediately off the table for winning. There are usually one or two guys who are on a hot streak and will have a good showing, but aren't going to be main eventing Wrestlemania. You have four main eventers (usually) out from title matches. It leaves you with usually about 4 guys that have any chance of winning. And that, to me, really started in 1998 where no one but Austin could have possibly won. And in 1999 when it had to be either Austin or Vince. And in 2000 where it had to be Rock. And so on. It's been getting worse every year since they've gone to doing football stadiums and making it a massive media event. Only the most popular guys are going to win the Rumble because they aren't going to put a guy on the WM marquee that people who only watch 2-3 times a year won't know.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
There are 15-20 guys that are immediately off the table for winning. There are usually one or two guys who are on a hot streak and will have a good showing, but aren't going to be main eventing Wrestlemania. You have four main eventers (usually) out from title matches. It leaves you with usually about 4 guys that have any chance of winning. And that, to me, really started in 1998 where no one but Austin could have possibly won. And in 1999 when it had to be either Austin or Vince. And in 2000 where it had to be Rock. And so on. It's been getting worse every year since they've gone to doing football stadiums and making it a massive media event. Only the most popular guys are going to win the Rumble because they aren't going to put a guy on the WM marquee that people who only watch 2-3 times a year won't know.

What I'm saying though is it's no different from all the Rumbles in the early nineties not that your premise is wrong. It's always been at most four or five guys and usually it is one or two.
 
I'm thinking Daniel Bryan is gonna eliminate Kane last to win next year
or Big Show eliminates Daniel Bryan last to win before then starting up a yes chant to close the show
 
All this talk of Shao Khan reminds me of the Mortal Kombat cartoon and USA Network's Saturday morning lineup. I didn't really watch it but my cousins did, was it any good? I know they had a cartoon based on Erik Larson's Savage Dragon, how was that?
 

strobogo

Banned
Unlike Green Day, one of the things I'm most proud of America for is finding a way to make Saturday morning cartoons from the most inappropriate and violent sources.
 
So I looked in the Buy/Sell/Trade thread today.

A whole lot of people on GAF have no idea how to set pricing. JESUS

Also, I filmed a wrestling show yesterday which included:

A manager with no wrestling training having a match, calling his charge by his shoot name, getting pinned via superkick, then immediately getting up and leaving like nothing happened

Someone heeling it up, getting up on the ropes, and hitting their head on the ceiling tiles

A guy doing an MMA gimmick when he should've been doing a fat pedophile gimmick

And THE ROCKIN REBEL

Why God wh- *looks at wallet* oh
 

G-Fex

Member
All this talk of Shao Khan reminds me of the Mortal Kombat cartoon and USA Network's Saturday morning lineup. I didn't really watch it but my cousins did, was it any good? I know they had a cartoon based on Erik Larson's Savage Dragon, how was that?

It was a great cartoon. KOMBAT TIME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3CFnqy4yHI

SubZero's voice was Dillion from 90210 aka Luke Perry
Unlike Green Day, one of the things I'm most proud of America for is finding a way to make Saturday morning cartoons from the most inappropriate and violent sources.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGxClKwvEjw
 

strobogo

Banned
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WWF Royal Rumble 2002

The last WWF Rumble. A lot of things have happened since 2001. WCW and ECW died. Vince bought both of them. WCW invaded (with a bunch of mid carders, plus DDP and Booker T) and teamed up with ECW to form The Alliance, which would spend most of the Summer and Fall trying to put the WWF out of business. The Alliance (and WCW) died forever at Survivor Series 2001. The next night, Ric Flair returned to the WWF and is now half owner with Vince McMahon. The WWF and WCW Championships were combined into the Undisputed Championship, which was won by Chris Jericho. Undertaker cut his hair and is a real dick head.

Dudley Boyz vs Tazz/Spike Dudley WWF Tag Team Championships

Fuck, Stacy is amazing. Such a beautiful woman. Tazz's push was completely undercut by the Radicalz jumping a week after his debut. Why would you push Tazz when you have Chris Benoit, who is bigger, in better shape, a better wrestler, and much more versatile? Dude had no chance once those guys came in. Match starts with Spike getting his ass kicked. He was wearing a neck brace at the start. Spike hit the Acid Drop on Bubba as a transition to make a hot tag. Too bad Tazz is FAT and couldn't reach the tag with his short FAT arms. Huge double Flapjack Norton. Tazz gets the hot tag and does a whole lot of Tazplexes. Jack Doan is bigger than Tazz. Is Tazz shorter than Dean Malenko? Another Acid Drop. Tazz put Stacy in the Tazmission. He then put it on D-Von and won. Titles retained. Of all the holds you could put Stacy in, you do a judo choke?

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Edge vs William Regal WWF Intercontinental Championship

Before the match, Edge basically insinuated he was going to bash Regal's head in with a chair. So weird that Regal is probably in the best shape of his life. He has defined abs and no flab at all to him. Even in 1993, he was a cardio machine, but still had chub and flab on him. Nick Patrick checks around ringside for hidden brass knuckles before the match. He found them in Regal's trunks. Edge decides he's going to work over Regal's nose for the match. Regal hits the Knee Trembler and a half nelson suplex. Edge blocks a tiger bomb, but Regal holds on, rolls through, and nails the move anyway. Edge's big attempt to get back into the match was an apron DDT. Head on collision. Another half nelson suplex, which Edge no sells to do a fighting spirit lariatoooooo. It's like Davey Richards took this match as inspiration or something. Regal Stretch. Edge made it to the ropes. He does a really shit version of his own. Top rope spin wheel kick. Regal had a second pair of brass knuckles in his trunks. He pulls Nick Patrick in the way of a spear. Power of the Punch! New champion! Cole caught up with Regal after the match. You just can't compete with the Power of the Punch.

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Jazz vs Trish Stratus WWF Women's Championship Special Guest Referee: Jacqueline

What is it with Canadians and pastels? Can they just not find black or white up there? Trish won with a bulldog after Jazz easily kicked out of Stratusfaction. She was totally clothed and gave me nothing to gif. It made me sad.

EARLIER TONIGHT
. Ric Flair, his daughter, and son Reid made it to the arena.

Vince McMahon vs Ric Flair Street Fight

This is Ric's first match since the final Nitro in March of 2001. Appropriately enough, this is in Atlanta, the former headquarters of WCW. Vince is even bigger than he was in 1999. LOOK AT THE STRIATIONS! LOOK AT THE MUSCULATURE! LOOK AT THE POOOOOOWER! Vince shoves Ric away and shows those striations. Vince just has too much musculature for Ric. Vince dominates until he decides to chop Flair, which pisses Ric off. He does some chops that make Vince's feet tap, but Vince comes right back with an eye rake. Flair botches the Flair Flip, which isn't that big of a deal since he was doing that as early as the 1992 Rumble. Flair is hit with a KEEP OFF sign and somehow didn't blade from it. I spoke too soon. Vince beats Flair all around the ringside area and in front of his family. He takes a selfie with Ric's daughter's camera. He even puts Ric in the figure four. Vince gets his pipe out. Not his dick, but an actual pipe. Ric low blows him before he can use it. WHATAMANUVER! Ric whacks Vince in the head with a monitor. Vince is now bleeding everywhere and Ric's daughter gets some more close up shots. Ric cracks the pipe over Vince's head and puts him in the figure four. Vince gives up. Ric wins! I'm sure that Vince had a literal and ego boner over getting to knock the shit out of Ric Flair in Atlanta for 10 minutes.

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TO THE COLE. Michael asks Nick Patrick about Regal having a second pair of brass knuckles. Before he can get an answer, Stephanie takes over the interview to say HHH is going to win the Rumble. As she shit talks Austin and Debra. Stone Cold walks up behind her. WHAT? What chants were in PEAK form. Jesus.

The Rock vs Chris Jericho WWF Undisputed Championship

I feel like there was some weird editing. No Rock promo or video package? Jericho and Rock had a great feud over the WCW/World Championship during the Invasion angle. Jericho beat Rock and Austin on the same night to win the Undisputed Championship. Jericho does a lot of shit talking and runs away from Rock. He ends up running into the ring post. Didn't matter, as he was in control moments later. Early Walls attempt is countered. Missile dropkick. Rest holds! My favorite. Superplex from Rock. He also hits a belly to belly, but Jericho is right back with a bulldog and 2 Lionsaults. Rock kicks out! To the surprise of no one. Sharpshooter! The kind that looks like Rock is taking a violent shit. Christian and Lance Storm get involved. Jericho hits a Rock Bottom. Rock always took his move the best. Jericho goes for the People's Elbow. Rock nips up and sends Jericho's happy ass to the floor. Rock Bottom from one announce table to another! After they get back to the ring, Jericho kicks out. Walls of Jericho! We get a ref bump and Jericho hits Rock with the WWF Championship. Nick Patrick slides in the ring. 2 count! Rock pops up with a DDT. Patrick won't count the pin. Rock Bottom! Fuck yo WCW. People's Elbow to Jericho. Of course, there is no ref since two have been bumped. Jericho low blows Rock and rams him into an exposed turnbuckle. School boy with the feet on the ropes. Earl magically comes to life. Jericho wins! Title retained.

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TO WWF NEW YORK. HBK is there, with his cowboy hat and Texas state flag button down. He says nothing about the title match, but marked out over Vince/Flair. he then dropped some George W. Bush quote (fuck, doesn't that seem like a completely different world?) before predicting either Austin or Taker to win the Rumble.

Royal Rumble

Rikishi drew number 1. Goldust drew number 2. He was making his return to the WWF after some time in WCW and indies. Also "returning" were Val Venis and The Godfather, who never left, but were just returning to their old gimmicks. The only real returning guy was Mr. Perfect. The Big Bossman drew 3. Bradshaw comes in with bad intentions in his eyes. Jealous eyes, if you will. LUSTFUL eyes, perhaps. Stink face to Boss Man. Right in his mouth. Asshole to the mouth. And he's eliminated due to the mouthful of asshole he just got. Lance Storm hits the ring. I think it is always a bad idea when announcers bring up and point out the lack of charisma in guys. Oh my, it's Avatar! Lariatoooooooo to Lance. Billy! That hair was ridiculous. Lance and Al fight on the apron, with a superkick eliminating Lonce. Billy dumps out Bradshaw. Oh fuck, It's DA UNDATAKER! I find it so weird that some DVDs have his 2002/2003 music dubbed in, but some have generic rock music. They were all produced at the same time, so it makes no sense to me why 2001 would have Dead Man Walking, but 2002 would have generic rock. Anyway, he eliminates everyone left in the ring. A returning Matt Hardy is the next man in. The last time we saw the Hardys, they were fighting each other and Taker beat the shit out of both of them. Lita also joined the action and she and Matt double time Taker. The next man in is Jeff Hardy. A triple team on Taker! The bros have reunited. Jeff gets dumped out. Last Ride to Matt and he's also gone. MAVEN! Poor guy. He runs in and is booted in the face. The Hardys come back in and fight with Taker, which allows Maven to dropkick and eliminate him. MAVEN ELIMINATES DA UNDATAKER! Maven then realizes what he's done. Taker gets back in the ring, throws Maven out of the ring (through the ropes), and continues to beat him. Disgusting chair shot. Scotty 2 Hotty is next in and gets decked before he even makes it to the ring. Maven is thrown back in and over the ropes officially. Christian is 13th in and has the place to himself as Taker is beating up Maven in the stands. Maven is thrown through a popcorn stand. Taker then took a handful of popcorn for a post match snack. Scotty makes it to the ring finally. DDP! Look at those teeth. Kanyon Cutter on Christian. BANG! He tosses Scotty out. Chuck! He's the 15th man in, which means we are half way through the match.

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The Godfather makes his return with a massive ho train. But he's gone legit, so they are escorts. DDP was eliminated during Godfather's long entrance. By the time he got in the ring, it was time for someone else to come in, which was Albert. He's quickly eliminated. Godfather is also out. Saturn is in with cow print trunks and new tats. Stone Cold Stone Cold Stone Cold WHAT!? He eliminates the Blue Dot and stuns Saturn before eliminating him and Chuck. He actually eliminated Christian and Chuck twice just for fun. Val Venis is...coming to the ring. Austin wasn't impressed. Test! He has immunity from winning a battle royal at Survivor Series 2001. He can't be fired for anything until SS 2002. I would have sat at home and collected money to not wrestle. Val and Test are gone. Triple H! It's burying time! He had just returned from his quad injury. And after that injury, Austin buried Hunner for being a pussy and getting hurt. HHH's entrance takes a while, so we didn't get much singles action before The Hurricane entered the match. He tried a double chokeslam. It didn't work and he was eliminated. Faarooq hits the ring. He didn't last long either. DAMN. MR. PERFECT! Maybe he and HHH can finally have that match from 1996 that never happened. Did it ever happen in 2002? Kirk Angel! Heavy hitters in here now. Big Shoe is in. Some body got a hair cut. Another double chokeslam is blocked. You'd think Austin and HHH were tag team partners or something. 11 years later and Shoe vs HHH is the top feud. Perfect is dead, Austin is retired, Kurt vanished in 2006. IT'S GOTTA BE KANE! Fuck, and here is another guy still in the top feud. Back before he had that weird gut, a hump back, and a bizarre hair line. He slams Show over the ropes, then is Angle Slammed out. RDV! He's here, here in the Impact Zone! And he was just in title matches on PPV a few months ago. Jesus. He goes on a roll only to get killed with a Pedigree. Lol. Seems fitting. Booker T is the final entrant and has the shortest amount of time in the Rumble. He eliminates RVD, who had been completely motionless from the Pedigree a minute and a half ago. Then he was eliminated. Angle, HHH, Austin, and Perfect are the final 4. Angle dumps Austin while he's trying to get Perfect out. Austin gets back in with a chair, which at least makes a little more sense for his character than Hulk Hogan in 1989. Perfect Plex to Angle! Too bad HHH eliminated Perfect seconds later. Hunner wins! Hunner wins! Hunner Haitch is going to Wrestlemania!

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DQ Count: 0 out of 6 matches.

I liked this Rumble much more than 2001, even with HHH's win not at all being in doubt.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I told a friend of mine who lifts that Kane's max bench was 525 with no bench shirt or wraps, and he couldn't believe it. He told me that he's never heard of anyone lifting that much with no shirt or wraps or any other kind of support.
 

strobogo

Banned
I told a friend of mine who lifts that Kane's max bench was 525 with no bench shirt or wraps, and he couldn't believe it. He told me that he's never heard of anyone lifting that much with no shirt or wraps or any other kind of support.

How does it feel to know your hero is a liar?
 
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WWF Royal Rumble 2002

That Hurricane bit is classic, for the first few seconds both HHH and Austin actually sell it like they're being throttled which makes it all the better.
Something about Farooq's brief stint in that rumble amuses me in the sense that his offence comes across so half assed, i'm not even going to dignify calling his finisher a spinebuster, it's the most lax bearhug front slam going.

As for weird editing that would be correct, it should have a pre match promo vid for Rock/Jericho, I had the ppv on VHS back in the day and recall it for the whole bit where Jericho loses his shit after one too many jokey Rock promos.
 

strobogo

Banned
That Hurricane bit is classic, for the first few seconds both HHH and Austin actually sell it like they're being throttled which makes it all the better.
Something about Farooq's brief stint in that rumble amuses me in the sense that his offence comes across so half assed, i'm not even going to dignify calling his finisher a spinebuster, it's the most lax bearhug front slam going.

As for weird editing that would be correct, it should have a pre match promo vid for Rock/Jericho, I had the ppv on VHS back in the day and recall it for the whole bit where Jericho loses his shit after one too many jokey Rock promos.

He had the second shortest run that year, the shortest in 2000, and second shortest in 2001. But I take issue with you shitting on his spinebuster. He murdered guys with that. Have you ever seen the time he did it to Rhyno? It was among the stiffest slams of any kind I've ever seen in any promotion.
 
Faarooq's spinebuster was the best 'fuck you get off me' spinebuster ever. David Otunga take notes (in between being the QB for the Packers)
 
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