airmangataosenai
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Probably the most likely scenario under normal circumstances, but with the 3DS sales collapsing as well I'd say to expect new hardware from them on either front next year.
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Now that the PS4 has already outsold the Wii U, where does Nintendo go from here?
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Probably the most likely scenario under normal circumstances, but with the 3DS sales collapsing as well I'd say to expect new hardware from them on either front next year.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The part where I'm specifically talking about the GamePad might clue you in.
nowheretorun
Member
It could well happen this generation imo. Sony have certainly started the ball rolling with their Indie support.
Have you seen the list of Indie games coming out on Sony platforms? It's huge and iirc, nice and varied.
Oddword: New & Tasty
The Binding Of Isaac
Everybody's Gone To The Rapture
Galak-Z
Rime
Outlast
Don't Starve
Resogun
Dead Nation
Secret Ponchos
The Witness
Hotline Miami 2
Escape Plan
Flow
Flower
Hokokum
Minecraft
Octodad
Strider
Shadow Of The Beast
I hope they bring many other pc classics too - Gone Home would be a must for me.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The main reason people aren't buying the U is because it has no future.The masses don't touch the console whose days are numbered, they buy the consoles that are going to flourish for the next 5-6 years with big name releases.
Metallix87
Member
Significant is an odd choice of words, but there were many Wii U titles that offered motion controls as a viable control option, such as Pikmin 3, and those absolutely count in my book. Heck, what about Wii Sports Club? That title seems to have gotten a lot of fanfare from Nintendo.
gamerforever
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Nintendo needs to become the niche/ 'number two' machine and pack it with HD ports and quality new games for the next 4 years.
Only then can they think about a Wii Successor, but I feel their strategy will change next generation, perhaps intergrating handheld play.
Only then can they think about a Wii Successor, but I feel their strategy will change next generation, perhaps intergrating handheld play.
blizzardjesus
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Am I the only one who pays attention to the eShop?
They do toy with new/different ideas on the 3DS eShop all the time, its just people never seem to notice them.
These are all fantastic games. I feel bad for people that ignore them.
nowheretorun
Member
I think the masses only buy what their friends buy.
The problem with Nintendo is they lied by trying to sell the console was for core gamers (so we could then in turn advertise their console free of charge via word of mouth) to in fact, sell to their targeted audience which is casual/family - hence, the perceived tablet. Core gamers, after being told lie after lie along with the obvious evidence, saw straight through this and the numbers showed it.
It's a shame Pikmin 3 best control scheme is actually with the Wiimote & Nunchuk.
The less said about the WiiU Sports Club the better. Total. Rip. Off.
Comandr
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This is because Pikmin 3 was originally developed for the Wii before getting shoe horned into the Wii U at the end of the cycle. Of course motion controls were a viable (and superior) play option. The friggin game was designed FOR them.
As far as Wii Sports Club goes, that is just a desperate grab at past glory. Any little twig to keep the Wii U from totally burning out.
I see a lot of people talk about how much they love remote play, and thereby, the Wii U. That's fine and good but remote play should have been an optional add-on. Not something you highlight as a key feature. Certainly not when the experience is subpar at best. Awful battery life, low res screen, shitty sound, and abysmal range. This is not how I want to enjoy my game. I can barely get 15 feet from the console before the signal dies and remote play fails. That's not even outside my living room.
I'm really glad remote play exists for people that enjoy it. But it should not be a primary selling point when a tremendous amount of gamers won't even require it. Living alone, own tv/room/console etc.
The Wii U is a bust. Say what you want, the numbers don't lie. Where will Nintendo go from here? Hopefully back to square one and get their shit together.
God I remember the days of getting questions like "Is Mario on PS2," and reading them the riot act and raving about how Mario would NEVER be on a non-Nintendo system. Now I almost wish he was. This is a hard generation to endure as a Nintendo supporter.
Rhazer Fusion
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You know, I actually agree with this and have had this notion for a very long time. Not to say that Western developers cannot create excellent games because they definitely do, but it seems like creativity and imaginative games have taken a backseat to annual sequels that are eerily similar to their predecessors and there are more "me too" cookie cutter games that I can count. Even major Japanese developers are generally dedicating most of their resources and effort to appeal to Western gamers. Look at RE6 and NG3 for examples. It's sad that we seemingly have to rely solely on indie developers to bring new and innovative ideas to the table and creativity is rarely rewarded in this industry. Yeah, consumers want what they want, but it doesn't mean they are always right and it's healthy for everyone. I think this is also contributing to Nintendo's and Japanese developer's downfall unfortunately.
magundah14
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I believe you don't know what indie means...
Metallix87
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I'm not saying Wii U is not a bust. I'm saying motion controls are not the fad people make it out to be. They're here to stay, and I believe Nintendo should've made the Wiimote Plus and Nunchuk the standard controllers for the Wii U, and not the GamePad, even though I like it.
AcademicSaucer
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Nintendo says that they arent competing with microsoft and sony, so theres that
About the wii u,
they arent going to announce new games for it outside the new zelda and the nfc thing, so 2015 is the last year of first party retail games for wii u.
About the wii u,
i think
Metallix87
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He probably cares much more than he lets on.
Yes, that would be what I wish as well.
You have to understand to a slight portion of GAF who always rant about the lack of mechanically competent, well-designed games, genres like shmup and fighting games are never in their field of vision.
Where does Nintendo go from here? No where. Iwata made that quite clear several weeks ago during the investor meeting. Being first on the scene only to be outsold by Sony isn't a concern. Not something he's publicly worried about. Nor privately as NIntendo's actions don't seem to have changed other then they seem to be pushing Mario Kart 8 more then normal. Which is pushing it at all compared to not at all when you look at other games. That's nor really something to look to as a example of them changing course or anything.
Part of me hopes and thinks this Quality of LIfe focus might be more game related then we suspect. We might be looking at another DS and GBA styled third pillar. Where the DS was suppose to be an experiment, focusing on touch styled games, and exist along side the GBA. It became popular and the GBA was dropped in favor of the DS. Those touch styled games existed and all their other games came along as well and grew.
If this QoL idea is game focused to some degree and is received well I could see Nintendo dropping the Wii U insanely fast. It seems like its not worth pumping more money into it. That doesn't solve it's issues really with third parties, customers. Or maybe it does as the brand will no doubt be different from the Wii which could be argued is somewhat toxic for various reasons.
We likely won't know what they are going to do until they are ready to unveil the platform. The question is will it be E3 or will it be it's own event as it won't be completely or even primarily gamer focused?
Part of me hopes and thinks this Quality of LIfe focus might be more game related then we suspect. We might be looking at another DS and GBA styled third pillar. Where the DS was suppose to be an experiment, focusing on touch styled games, and exist along side the GBA. It became popular and the GBA was dropped in favor of the DS. Those touch styled games existed and all their other games came along as well and grew.
If this QoL idea is game focused to some degree and is received well I could see Nintendo dropping the Wii U insanely fast. It seems like its not worth pumping more money into it. That doesn't solve it's issues really with third parties, customers. Or maybe it does as the brand will no doubt be different from the Wii which could be argued is somewhat toxic for various reasons.
We likely won't know what they are going to do until they are ready to unveil the platform. The question is will it be E3 or will it be it's own event as it won't be completely or even primarily gamer focused?
A lot of these are also coming to Wii U.
Name them.
This is the list you quoted:
"Oddword: New & Tasty
The Binding Of Isaac
Everybody's Gone To The Rapture
Galak-Z
Rime
Outlast
Don't Starve
Resogun
Dead Nation
Secret Ponchos
The Witness
Hotline Miami 2
Escape Plan
Flow
Flower
Hokokum
Minecraft
Octodad
Strider
Shadow Of The Beast"
NoMoreTrolls
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Thanks for that. I was about to ask the same thing.
You think incorrectly. They have said otherwise.
AcademicSaucer
Member
quote the source please.
Freezie KO
Banned
They have finite resources. They're creating a new platform. Even if EAD makes Wii ___ home console and they now make it for QoL, each buyer is still one less person in the console install base who could pick up Mario Kart.
Getting rid of Iwata would at the very least be a recognition of their own gross lack of foresight and horrible mismanagement in the past decade. And it would likely signal a large strategic change.
It's not about if I like it. It doesn't have value. The GamePad is like adding a blender to a video game console as a unique selling proposition. Sure, that's what makes the console unique, but it doesn't add anything to gaming and it's probably not going to get people to buy the console.
You don't know what I want Nintendo to do, so don't assume.
holy shit... destroyed.
Sho_Nuff82
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Based on sales alone, I wouldn't call Pikmin 3 or Wii Sports club "significant". Wii Party U at least sold over 1 million copies.
Psycho_Mantis
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Please cut the bullshit. Japanese third party support for the WiiU is even worse than Western third party support.
PS3 and PS3 are the ones getting Japanese console games form third parties. That much is evident.
Isn't Oddworld coming to Wii U? From that list, that's the only thing I can think of that is coming to Wii U.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
I dunno but I think Nintendo need to have the mother of all E3's this year to stand any chance of rescuing the Wii U. I'm talking like 10 megatons one after the other. So yeah, it isn't happening.
AcademicSaucer
Member
well, zelda, nfc thing, and new trailers for games that we already know will have to suffice
Yeah, it is. It's the only one.
1st Course
Member
Zombie James
Banned
Heh.
I've noticed much of the loudest hate for Nintendo on this forum comes from posters that use the British spelling of things. I don't think NA is problem here.
I'm from MN. What am I spelling British style? And I don't think my comment hates on Nintendo. I love Nintendo. I'm just saying from my perspective what I would do if I were Nintendo. I do think that the EU market will continue to be dominated by Sony and MS regardless of what Nintendo does.
BabySlayer
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If Nintendo wants to prosper they need to become a 3rd party developer and release games on PS4. Their games would sell so much more.
There is still talent behind the games, the developers are the real Nintendo, and they are being cut short with Nintendo's shitty decisions on hardware.
There is still talent behind the games, the developers are the real Nintendo, and they are being cut short with Nintendo's shitty decisions on hardware.
I count 1. What's the second?
I have ran a lot of scenarios through my head and I think the way to go for Nintendo is becoming a software only company.
Their strengths are in great games, not hardware, not an ecosystem. Nintendo sucks at that, badly.
Get all your games out on the (dying) consoles, but also on phones, Oculus Rift, PC, Google Glass whatever.
Their strengths are in great games, not hardware, not an ecosystem. Nintendo sucks at that, badly.
Get all your games out on the (dying) consoles, but also on phones, Oculus Rift, PC, Google Glass whatever.
Keep digging...
I think what you meant to say initially was "Almost none of these are coming out on Wii U."
[Jomjom]I think what you meant to say initially was "Almost none of these are coming out on Wii U." [/QUOTE]
There is plenty of indie support on dead consoles, including Vita and Wii U - with a lot of sales successes on both.
Citation needed.
$100? How much is the 360 and PS3 currently?
There is plenty of indie support on dead consoles, including Vita and Wii U - with a lot of sales successes on both.
Citation needed.
$100? How much is the 360 and PS3 currently?
Well we really have no idea what the QOL is. Considering Iwata is planning a cross platform OS in the future (with Wii U as the starting point).....for all we know the QOL may have a Wii U GPU/CPU inside...and they'll sell a QOL add-on for current Wii U owners/release the same software on both machines.
Nah I fucked up and misread some on the list. I'll take responsibility for my mistake. I really shouldn't GAF at work.
R
Rösti
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How would this addon work? The Wii U is not like the Nintendo 64 and its Expansion Pak, and connecting via USB ports won't provide any greater speeds. Could work if they provide a sensible way for people to reverse engineer their consoles without breaking warranty, but that would probably incur a lot of bluescreens and hissy fits as well.
Why can't you be more like that, Wii U?
The Maverick
Member
I don't think it's crazy to assume that Nintendo games would sell much better on systems with sizable install bases.
And maybe the other guy values a Wii U less than a 360? He said it'd be his Nintendo box.
If this happens, Xbox would be over with.
GameAddict411
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the only bright scenario i could think for nintendo is to drop out of the console market and become a third party publisher for the big "successful" or "desirable" platforms like the current gen consoles, smartphones, PC....etc. their current handheld is doing mediocrely compared to their previous handhelds, and the chances of their next handheld doing well is also pretty slim....so they should also drop it sooner or later.
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