NPD Current-Gen Titles > 500k (As of Sep 2004 - INCLUDING THE CORRECT GBA!)

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Halo has grabbed the #3 spot away from GT3 and the PS2 adds it's 2 newest million sellers. Can you guess what they are?

Also Ninja Gaiden cracks into the > 500k (barely)

40 GBA Total
19 GCN Total
106 PS2 Total
27 XBX Total
192 Grand Total


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[b]Format   Title                    Publisher                   Release Date    LTD Sales      Sep-04[/b]
PS2      GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE    ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            2-Oct     6,183,008     52,876
PS2      GRAND THEFT AUTO 3       ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            1-Oct     5,439,669     13,072
XBX      HALO                     MICROSOFT                          1-Nov     3,616,009     87,529
PS2      GRAN TURISMO 3:A-SPEC    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          1-Jul     3,545,000     14,434
PS2      MADDEN NFL 2004          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Aug     3,410,917      4,529
PS2      MADDEN NFL 2003          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Aug     2,722,006        840
GCN      SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Dec     2,438,747     36,422
GBA      SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Feb     2,272,408     20,611
GBA      POKEMON RUBY             NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Mar     2,184,140     27,327
PS2      FINAL FANTASY X          SQUARE EA (SQUARE ENIX USA)        1-Dec     2,169,186     14,313
PS2      MEDAL HONOR FRONTLINE    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-May     2,151,089     14,981
PS2      TONY HAWKS PRO SKATR3    ACTIVISION                         1-Oct     2,092,181      3,215
PS2      KINGDOM HEARTS           SQUARE EA (SQUARE ENIX USA)        2-Sep     2,079,017     21,198
PS2      NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Nov     2,068,064     20,874
GBA      SUPER MARIO ADVANCE      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Jun     2,044,511      6,627
PS2      METAL GEAR SOLID 2       KONAMI OF AMERICA                  1-Nov     2,010,557        325
PS2      MADDEN NFL 2002          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Aug     2,000,579         27
GBA      POKEMON SAPPHIRE         NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Mar     1,969,265     26,151
PS2      SPIDER-MAN: THE MOVIE    ACTIVISION                         2-Apr     1,921,516     17,186
GBA      MARIO KART: CIRCUIT      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Aug     1,901,662     14,253
GCN      MARIO KART: DOUBLE       NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Nov     1,686,033     22,374
PS2      DRAGONBALL Z: BUDOKAI    ATARI                              2-Dec     1,667,775      5,216
PS2      ATV OFF ROAD FURY        SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          1-Feb     1,645,606      3,606
PS2      NBA STREET               ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Jun     1,639,258      2,447
PS2      JAK AND DAXTER:LEGACY    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          1-Dec     1,620,194      5,259
GBA      NAMCO MUSEUM             NAMCO                              1-Jun     1,615,077     26,996
GCN      SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE     NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Aug     1,575,109     15,892
PS2      MAX PAYNE                ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            1-Dec     1,569,390      3,988
PS2      TONY HAWKS PRO SKATR4    ACTIVISION                         2-Oct     1,554,209      4,471
PS2      MIDNIGHT CLUB:STREET     ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)           Oct-00     1,544,206      3,201
PS2      CRASH BANDICOOT:CORTX    VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  1-Oct     1,499,592     10,928
GCN      ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Mar     1,496,631      5,909
PS2      TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND    ACTIVISION                         3-Oct     1,484,175     46,896
XBX      T. CLANCYS SPLINTER      UBISOFT (CORP)                     3-Nov     1,468,274      6,136
GCN      LUIGI'S MANSION          NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Nov     1,467,320     17,809
PS2      LORD OF RINGS: TOWERS    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Oct     1,449,493      9,305
PS2      BOND:AGENT UNDER FIRE    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Nov     1,421,170      4,307
PS2      ACE COMBAT 4             NAMCO                              1-Oct     1,415,507     13,113
PS2      SOCOM:SEALS W/HEADSET    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Aug     1,415,480        563
PS2      MADDEN NFL 2005          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Aug     1,401,335    288,747
GBA      FROGGER'S ADV: TEMPLE    KONAMI OF AMERICA                  1-Nov     1,397,097     12,337
PS2      SIMPSONS: ROAD RAGE      ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Nov     1,374,062     18,200
PS2      TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT    NAMCO                             Oct-00     1,333,764      2,400
GBA      MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Oct     1,324,076     38,906
GBA      YU-GI-OH! ETERNAL        KONAMI OF AMERICA                  2-Oct     1,305,166      3,371
GBA      ZELDA: LINK TO PAST      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Dec     1,282,375     15,125
PS2      ENTER THE MATRIX         ATARI                              3-May     1,277,598     10,817
PS2      TRUE CRIME:STREETS LA    ACTIVISION                         3-Nov     1,274,527     19,193
PS2      MEDAL HONOR RISING       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Nov     1,229,025     30,748
PS2      NBA LIVE 2004            ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Oct     1,211,621      6,118
PS2      MORTAL KOMBAT: DEADLY    MIDWAY                             2-Nov     1,207,893     18,941
GBA      DRAGONBALL Z: GOKU       ATARI                              2-May     1,203,910      1,566
GCN      METROID PRIME            NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Nov     1,195,256     13,425
PS2      FINAL FANTASY X-2        SQUARE ENIX USA                    3-Nov     1,192,292     18,858
PS2      ATV OFF ROAD FURY 2      SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Nov     1,186,245     15,713
XBX      PROJECT GOTHAM RACING    MICROSOFT                          1-Nov     1,179,664      5,534
GBA      PAC-MAN COLLECTION       NAMCO                              1-Jul     1,170,957     15,774
PS2      SOCOM II: NAVY SEALS     SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Nov     1,158,314     47,534
PS2      WWE: SHUT YOUR MOUTH     THQ                                2-Oct     1,152,687      3,549
PS2      NBA STREET VOL 2         ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Apr     1,147,026     21,743
XBX      GRAND THEFT AUTO PACK    ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            3-Oct     1,129,738     17,814
GBA      YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Sep     1,109,614      7,193
PS2      TEKKEN 4                 NAMCO                              2-Sep     1,090,043     17,178
PS2      BOND 007: NIGHTFIRE      ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Nov     1,085,943     11,166
PS2      DEVIL MAY CRY            CAPCOM USA                         1-Oct     1,070,470      2,098
PS2      NCAA FOOTBALL 2004       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Jul     1,063,720      2,212
PS2      NEED SPEED: PURSUIT 2    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Sep     1,060,812     27,258
[b]PS2      ESPN NFL 2K5             TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP)          4-Jul     1,057,617    203,101[/b]
PS2      NAMCO MUSEUM             NAMCO                              1-Dec     1,037,204     26,478
PS2      T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON    UBI SOFT                           2-Dec     1,021,687      8,300
PS2      NBA LIVE 2003            ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Oct     1,003,182        267
[b]PS2      HITMAN 2: ASSASSIN       EIDOS INTERACTIVE                  2-Sep     1,002,199      9,968[/b]
PS2      DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2    ATARI                              3-Dec       996,413     30,151
GBA      SONIC ADVANCE            THQ                                2-Feb       971,403         66
PS2      THE SIMS                 ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Jan       964,807     16,843
PS2      NCAA FOOTBALL 2003       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Jul       955,001        152
XBX      T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON    UBI SOFT                           2-Nov       950,939      5,527
PS2      RATCHET & CLANK          SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Nov       950,924     11,553
GCN      MARIO PARTY 4            NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Oct       946,582      1,613
PS2      WWE SMACKDOWN: BRING     THQ                                1-Nov       944,349      1,159
PS2      MADDEN NFL 2001          ELECTRONIC ARTS                   Oct-00       937,680         67
GCN      SONIC ADVENTURE 2        SEGA OF AMERICA                    2-Feb       937,673     19,796
PS2      THE GETAWAY              SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Jan       933,854      6,567
PS2      TWISTED METAL BLACK      SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          1-Jun       931,371      2,520
GBA      SPYRO: SEASON OF ICE     VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  1-Oct       923,678      6,511
GBA      KIRBY: NIGHTMARE         NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Dec       921,951     10,666
PS2      LORD RING:RETURN KING    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Nov       911,273     26,084
PS2      TIGER WOODS PGA 2004     ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Sep       909,125     18,881
GBA      DONKEY KONG COUNTRY      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Jun       906,080     20,643
GBA      HARRY POTTER: CHAMBER    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Nov       900,731      3,420
GBA      METROID FUSION           NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Nov       900,700      3,309
XBX      DEAD OR ALIVE 3          TECMO                              1-Nov       871,642      6,031
PS2      RESIDENT EVIL CODE: X    CAPCOM USA                         1-Aug       860,799      2,087
PS2      JAK II                   SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Oct       857,873     34,649
GCN      SW: ROGUE SQUADRON II    LUCASARTS ENTERTAINMENT            1-Nov       857,218      2,981
PS2      WWE: HERE COMES PAIN     THQ                                3-Oct       849,510      6,481
PS2      YU-GI-OH! DUELISTS       KONAMI OF AMERICA                  3-Feb       842,603     29,094
PS2      CRAZY TAXI               ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT              1-May       840,446      4,107
GBA      MARIO & LUIGI SAGA       NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Nov       840,408     15,105
XBX      ESPN NFL 2K5             TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP)          4-Jul       825,245    128,226
GBA      DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO    THQ                                3-May       820,211     25,557
PS2      SPY HUNTER               MIDWAY                             1-Sep       812,877     11,425
PS2      T. CLANCY'S SPLINTER     UBI SOFT                           3-Apr       812,122     12,867
PS2      NFL 2K3                  SEGA OF AMERICA                    2-Aug       806,613      7,316
XBX      SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC     LUCASARTS ENTERTAINMENT            3-Jul       799,464     46,829
PS2      SCOOBY-DOO:100 FRIGHT    THQ                                2-May       796,945      9,154
PS2      SOCOM W/O HEADSET        SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Apr       794,687      8,032
PS2      SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2    ACTIVISION                         4-Jun       791,550     50,857
XBX      MADDEN NFL 2004          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Aug       791,001      1,987
PS2      PAC-MAN WORLD 2          NAMCO                              2-Feb       787,782     14,526
PS2      ONIMUSHA WARLORDS        CAPCOM USA                         1-Mar       781,181      1,336
GCN      STAR FOX ADVENTURES      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Sep       775,560      5,104
PS2      SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN      VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  3-Sep       763,373     29,288
PS2      MVP BASEBALL 2004        ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Mar       762,433     13,213
GCN      ANIMAL CROSSING          NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Sep       760,319     12,920
GCN      MARIO PARTY 5            NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Nov       750,387     13,907
GBA      GOLDEN SUN               NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Nov       743,050         48
XBX      MAX PAYNE                ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            1-Dec       742,975      1,458
PS2      NBA LIVE 2002            ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Oct       740,713         59
PS2      MIDNIGHT CLUB II         ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            3-Apr       737,946     30,123
XBX      SPIDER-MAN: THE MOVIE    ACTIVISION                         2-Apr       723,708      6,049
GBA      WARIO LAND 4             NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Nov       717,824         64
GBA      YU-GI-OH! SACRED CARD    KONAMI OF AMERICA                  3-Nov       696,376     12,102
PS2      HOT SHOTS GOLF 3         SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Mar       694,488      8,778
GBA      HARRY POTTER:SORCERER    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Nov       692,990        277
GCN      SOUL CALIBUR II          NAMCO                              3-Aug       687,141     22,200
GBA      SONIC ADVANCE 2          THQ                                3-Mar       685,442     10,028
GBA      SPIDER-MAN: THE MOVIE    ACTIVISION                         2-Apr       684,536      2,309
GBA      POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP                                                   684,283    684,283
PS2      TEST DRIVE               ATARI                              2-May       680,685      3,577
XBX      T. CLANCYS RAINBOW 3     UBISOFT                                        679,851     16,447
PS2      STATE OF EMERGENCY       ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            2-Feb       679,415      1,030
GCN      POKEMON COLOSSEUM        NINTENDO OF AMERICA                4-Mar       669,294     17,129
GBA      TONY HAWKS PRO SKATR2    ACTIVISION                         1-May       667,068      1,271
GBA      CRASH BANDICOOT: HUGE    VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  2-Feb       665,459      4,445
XBX      MEDAL HONOR FRONTLINE    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Nov       662,742      8,827
PS2      DEF JAM VENDETTA         ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Mar       660,696     10,425
PS2      NCAA FOOTBALL 2005       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Jul       656,961     53,595
GCN      PIKMIN                   NINTENDO OF AMERICA                1-Dec       654,353      4,379
PS2      DARK CLOUD               SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          1-May       653,412      1,465
PS2      FIGHT NIGHT 2004         ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Mar       651,534     12,529
XBX      MECH ASSAULT             MICROSOFT                          2-Nov       650,041      8,373
PS2      TIGER WOODS PGA 2003     ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Oct       649,970        475
PS2      NFL STREET               ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Jan       648,187      9,506
PS2      TETRIS WORLDS            THQ                                2-Mar       645,510     10,147
XBX      NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Nov       640,425      8,370
PS2      DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO    THQ                                3-May       633,135     22,864
PS2      NCAA FOOTBALL 2002       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Jul       633,070         65
GBA      SPONGEBOB: DUTCHMAN      THQ                                2-Sep       630,726        275
PS2      SOUL CALIBUR II          NAMCO                              3-Aug       630,213     21,809
PS2      SSX TRICKY               ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Nov       630,186      2,154
PS2      SSX                      ELECTRONIC ARTS                   Oct-00       626,260        122
PS2      HARRY POTTER: CHAMBER    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Nov       625,516      4,621
PS2      RATCHET & CLANK:GOING    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Nov       622,374     39,961
PS2      VIRTUA FIGHTER 4         SEGA OF AMERICA                    2-Mar       622,052        233
PS2      GRAND THEFT AUTO PACK    ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)            3-Oct       621,393     12,269
XBX      MADDEN NFL 2005          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Aug       611,986    102,886
GBA      TETRIS WORLDS            THQ                                1-Sep       610,315     12,220
GCN      SPIDER-MAN: THE MOVIE    ACTIVISION                         2-Apr       608,258     10,547
PS2      CONFLICT:DESERT STORM    GOTHAM GAMES (TAKE 2)              2-Sep       606,160     14,075
XBX      FABLE                    MICROSOFT                                      604,084    604,084
GBA      FINAL FANTASY TACTICS    NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Sep       600,510     10,463
GCN      SONIC MEGA COLLECTION    SEGA OF AMERICA                    2-Nov       598,892     32,454
PS2      SLY COOPER & THIEVIUS    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Sep       593,237     11,350
GBA      SPONGEBOB: BATTLE        THQ                                3-Oct       589,438     17,645
PS2      RED FACTION              THQ                                1-May       588,945        957
XBX      NFL FEVER 2002           MICROSOFT                          1-Oct       588,856        150
GBA      SPYRO 2: SEASON FLAME    VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  2-Sep       580,996      2,313
XBX      TRUE CRIME:STREETS LA    ACTIVISION                         3-Nov       580,382     21,899
GBA      DRAGONBALL Z: GOKU II    ATARI                              3-Jun       568,712      6,971
PS2      EYE TOY                  SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Nov       567,934      9,947
XBX      HITMAN 2: ASSASSIN       EIDOS INTERACTIVE                  2-Sep       558,411      4,626
GBA      POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP                                                   556,065    556,065
PS2      SMUGGLER'S RUN           ROCKSTAR GAMES (TAKE 2)           Oct-00       554,094      7,229
PS2      STUNTMAN                 ATARI                              2-Jun       544,161      1,224
PS2      TOKYO XTREME RACER       CRAVE ENTERTAINMENT                1-May       541,041        259
XBX      AMPED: SNOWBOARDING      MICROSOFT                          1-Nov       539,372        902
PS2      SSX 3                    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Oct       538,334     19,706
GBA      YU-GI-OH! WORLDWIDE      KONAMI OF AMERICA                  3-Apr       536,771      1,930
GCN      SUPER MONKEY BALL        SEGA OF AMERICA                    1-Nov       528,154      6,549
XBX      MADDEN NFL 2003          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    2-Aug       524,470        584
XBX      ENTER THE MATRIX         ATARI                              3-May       522,090      4,150
XBX      FUZION FRENZY            MICROSOFT                          1-Oct       521,558     13,213
PS2      SPYRO:ENTER DRAGONFLY    UNIVERSAL INTERACTIVE (VIVEN       2-Nov       519,891      2,527
XBX      MORTAL KOMBAT: DEADLY    MIDWAY                             2-Nov       515,627      6,772
GCN      T. HAWKS PRO SKATER 3    ACTIVISION                         1-Nov       509,842
XBX      SIMPSONS: ROAD RAGE      ELECTRONIC ARTS                    1-Dec       509,115      8,973
GBA      MONSTERS INC             THQ                                1-Oct       508,843        417
PS2      SILENT HILL 2            KONAMI OF AMERICA                  1-Sep       507,639        306
GBA      DISNEYS LILO & STITCH    DISNEY INTERACTIVE                 2-Jun       507,596      8,303
PS2      DEAD TO RIGHTS           NAMCO                              2-Nov       501,780      3,604
XBX      NINJA GAIDEN             TECMO                              4-Mar       500,450      8,139
 
Year 2001: "People will only play DVD movies on PlayStation 2, not games. GameCube and -- to a lesser extent -- Xbox are clearly in the best position."
 
Woo Gaiden cracks the 500K barrier!

Tecmo should make this game a Platinum Hits game next month. Unless they are content with selling 8K a month (Which it did the last two months).

Price drop would boost sales big time, especially in the holiday season.
 
snapty00 said:
Year 2001: "People will only play DVD movies on PlayStation 2, not games. GameCube and -- to a lesser extent -- Xbox are clearly in the best position."
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The surprising part is that smoe people really believed that.
 
It's too bad Ninja Gaiden had a really big drop off from March. Guess the Platinum Hits release will butter things up.

I hope that Soul Calibur II GC also breaks into the million mold sometime before this generation's over.
 
Insertia said:
Halo will be knocked down again after GTA:SA's release. :)
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It's amazing that the 3 best selling games this gen are all going to be from the same series. Is that the first time something like that has ever happened?
 
Mrbob said:
:lol

It isn't that tough. :lol
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I know and to be honest I probably could have managed a fair bit further than I did get Chp. 11 I think, the chp after the big featherless bird type thing with the Alien-esque elongated head boss. It's just I found that there wasn't enough payoff for me in terms of fun and just anticipation for what was next to get over how chore like going from one room to the next was becoming.

That and I hit a swimming section which totally turns me off. I kept thinking 'if only someone had told them that the swimming controls were crap and they'd but this section out of the game'. So many games balls it up when they try to include underwater swimming and NG was no exception.
 
SolidSnakex said:
It's amazing that the 3 best selling games this gen are all going to be from the same series. Is that the first time something like that has ever happened?
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Pokemon Red/Blue
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Pokemon Yellow

Or in Japan:

Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pokemon Emerald
 
Games on the list that I believe will hit a million:

PS2 : 12
GBA: 7
XBX: 6
GCN: 3

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Format   Title                    Publisher                   Release Date    LTD Sales      Sep-04
PS2      DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2    ATARI                              3-Dec       996,413     30,151 (October)
PS2      THE SIMS                 ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Jan       964,807     16,843 (~December / January)
XBX      T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON    UBI SOFT                           2-Nov       950,939      5,527 (~January-March 2005)
PS2      RATCHET & CLANK          SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          2-Nov       950,924     11,553 (~December)
GCN      SONIC ADVENTURE 2        SEGA OF AMERICA                    2-Feb       937,673     19,796  (easy)
PS2      THE GETAWAY              SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Jan       933,854      6,567  (should make it pretty easily)
GBA      SPYRO: SEASON OF ICE     VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  1-Oct       923,678      6,511
GBA      KIRBY: NIGHTMARE         NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Dec       921,951     10,666
PS2      LORD RING:RETURN KING    ELECTRONIC ARTS                    3-Nov       911,273     26,084
GBA      DONKEY KONG COUNTRY      NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Jun       906,080     20,643
PS2      JAK II                   SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Oct       857,873     34,649
PS2      YU-GI-OH! DUELISTS       KONAMI OF AMERICA                  3-Feb       842,603     29,094
GBA      MARIO & LUIGI SAGA       NINTENDO OF AMERICA                3-Nov       840,408     15,105
XBX      ESPN NFL 2K5             TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP)          4-Jul       825,245    128,226 
GBA      DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO    THQ                                3-May       820,211     25,557
XBX      SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC     LUCASARTS ENTERTAINMENT            3-Jul       799,464     46,829
PS2      SOCOM W/O HEADSET        SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Apr       794,687      8,032  (will have a tough time, but I believe it will make it)
PS2      SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2    ACTIVISION                         4-Jun       791,550     50,857
PS2      SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN      VIVENDI UNIVERSAL                  3-Sep       763,373     29,288 
GCN      ANIMAL CROSSING          NINTENDO OF AMERICA                2-Sep       760,319     12,920  (will need constant love)
GBA      POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP                                                   684,283    684,283
GCN      POKEMON COLOSSEUM        NINTENDO OF AMERICA                4-Mar       669,294     17,129  (again will need to sell consistently)
PS2      NCAA FOOTBALL 2005       ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Jul       656,961     53,595  (last years made it, this is ahead of that one)
PS2      RATCHET & CLANK:GOING    SONY COMPUTER ENT. (SONY)          3-Nov       622,374     39,961  (greatest hits has bumped it)
XBX      MADDEN NFL 2005          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Aug       611,986    102,886  (easily)
XBX      FABLE                    MICROSOFT                                      604,084    604,084  (easy, maybe by December)
GBA      POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP                                                   556,065    556,065
XBX      NINJA GAIDEN             TECMO                              4-Mar       500,450      8,139 (will be tough, and will need to do well as a Platinum hit)
 
WOW WOW at ESPN 2K5 only 400k behind Madden 05 on PS2.

with ESPN leading Madden on xbox by a little underr 200k that makes a big difference

Especially with ESPN 2k4 nowhere on the list. Well Played SEGA, Well played.
 
Vargas said:
That would be two games, not three.
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Three.
Pokemon Red/Blue
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Pokemon Yellow

Last Gen, these sold like crazy. Red/Blue came out, then Yellow, then Gold/Silver.

in Japan for GBA:

Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pokemon Emerald

Again, three seperate games, all released this gen. R/S, then FI/LE, then Em.

And Pokemon Crystal fits in there somewhere too. I can attest to all the cool things that were added to yellow and crystal. They are new enough to be considered different. It's not like Pokemon changes that much anyway. :)
 
sonycowboy said:
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[b]Format   Title                    Publisher                   Release Date    LTD Sales      Sep-04[/b]

PS2      MADDEN NFL 2005          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Aug     1,401,335    288,747
[b]PS2      ESPN NFL 2K5             TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP)          4-Jul     1,057,617    203,101[/b]
XBX      ESPN NFL 2K5             TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP)          4-Jul       825,245    128,226
XBX      MADDEN NFL 2005          ELECTRONIC ARTS                    4-Aug       611,986    102,886
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Madden 05 LTD cross platform = 2,013,321
ESPN 2k5 LTD.. cross platform = 1,882,862

difference 130,459. amazing.

Though that does not inlcude GC sales of madden, add 150K at most to EAs collumn. Damn. Am I the only one just finding this out?
 
scola said:
Madden 05 LTD cross platform = 2,013,321
ESPN 2k5 LTD.. cross platform = 1,882,862

difference 130,459. amazing.

Though that does not inlcude GC sales of madden, add 150K at most to EAs collumn. Damn. Am I the only one just finding this out?
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Not to mention the special edition of Madden PS2 which is at almost 350K I think.

But ESPN has taken a huge chunk.
 
CVXFREAK said:
Emerald and Yellow are different enough from their originals to be considered separate.
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I finished Yellow after completing Pokemon Red and it was not a whole new experience. Having Pikachu helped early in the game but that was it. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow are still considered one game, just as Pokemon G/S/C and the others are still one game. GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas however, are completely different games.
 
Mrbob said:
Not to mention the special edition of Madden PS2 which is at almost 350K I think.

But ESPN has taken a huge chunk.
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Ooh. I forgot about the special edition. well its not so close then, but still impressive.

If they made enough money on the title, maybe we will continue to see it at sub industry standard price, if not 19.99.

Would be a nice change of pace, as not every VG is worth $50.
 
So long as it's published through TakeTwo you can expect low pricing to continue. It's something of a longer term strategy, probably won't raise from 19.99 until they have taken a decent chunk of EAs mindshare(should be interesting to see the final sales when next year update rolls around).
Of course there's always the chance EA will go down with their sports pricing too...
 
PhatSaqs said:
A "Ninja Gaiden Ultimate" including the XBL DLC for no more than $29.99 would rock. I'd buy it again no doubt.
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Cant see that happening at a reduced price, it'd take quite a bit of work to rework the interfaces to fit the new challenges and difficulty levels (let alone the different skins) into the offline version of the game, at the moment you can only play pack 2 through xbox live (afaik)
 
Vargas said:
I finished Yellow after completing Pokemon Red and it was not a whole new experience. Having Pikachu helped early in the game but that was it. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow are still considered one game, just as Pokemon G/S/C and the others are still one game. GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas however, are completely different games.
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They're clear upgrades, and counted seperately from the dual releases by nearly everyone. Would you also consider VF4 & VF4E to be the same game? Daytona USA & Daytona CCE? New Generation, 2nd Impact and 3rd Strike are all one game? We've actually only gotten one GGX game this generation?
 
CVXFREAK said:
Pokemon Red/Blue
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Pokemon Yellow

Or in Japan:

Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pokemon Emerald
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I'd say it's likely that Mario 1-3 in the NES days also.
 
Vargas said:
I finished Yellow after completing Pokemon Red and it was not a whole new experience. Having Pikachu helped early in the game but that was it. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow are still considered one game, just as Pokemon G/S/C and the others are still one game. GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas however, are completely different games.
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But it's still a separate title as it was released separately from R and B. Yellow is a Director's Cut for R and B.
 
Directors cut? I dunno, you're giving it far to much credit.
It was the same game as Red and Blue with extremely minor additions (biggest gameplay addition being a lame surfing minigame or Pikachu having 'emotions').

Let's just call it what it is: Nintendo's successful attempt at reeling in more cash by changing the subtitle and color palette.

If Pokemon Yellow isn't considered the same as Red and Blue, Ruby and Saphire can't be categorized as the same.
 
Insertia said:
If Pokemon Yellow isn't considered the same as Red and Blue, Ruby and Saphire can't be categorized as the same.
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Yellow has content differences from R&B and was released much later. RuSa is exactly the same out side monster appearance and were released simultaneously, there's a clear difference here.

Red = Blue < Yellow

Gold = Silver < Crystal

Ruby = Sapphire < Emerald

Fire Red = Leaf Green

Pearl = Diamond

...Yellow really didn't add too much no, but there were still additions. Crystal and (suppossedly) Emerald added a lot from what I understand though.
 
It wasn't just a price tag that finally knocked EA's seemingly unassailable mindshare in the sports sector. SEGA had already tried that in 2K3 when, within a few months of launch and ahead of the holiday selling season, they formally announced a price drop to $19.99 for NFL. They had matched EA dollar for dollar in advertising that year, too. Even though their sports games have consistently been reduced to clearance prices shortly after launch, it's never had such an effect.

The ace this year was Take-Two and their aggressive play. Take-Two's US retail distribution and POP support is second only to EA's for third party console publishers, so they had a visibly compelling alternative for Madden fans when SEGA's typically high development and production standards came together with the pricing hook and early launch. A good portion of the million-strong Dreamcast 2K adopters would've also come into the market with the newer systems hitting their price drops.

This market battle is about mindshare and user familiarity, so SEGA's sports titles will begrudge giving back marketshare with the kind of stubborness they faced in capturing it in the first place, even if they raise the price. The main goal has been accomplished: their brand is now a significant consideration when customers are in the market for sports games.
 
Lazy8s said:
This market battle is about mindshare and user familiarity, so SEGA's sports titles will begrudge giving back marketshare with the kind of stubborness they faced in capturing it in the first place, even if they raise the price. The main goal has been accomplished: their brand is now a significant consideration when customers are in the market for sports games.
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I don't think it will pay off as well as they hope. It sure digs into EA and has probably really, really pissed them off. However, if they try and raise the price they will lose sales. From what I've heard, Take-Two has actually lost money on the deal, but is considering it an investment in VC. The ESPN did not sell it, the advertising didn't sell it, the $19.99 sold it (although people wouldn't have known without the advertising).

Given how much more it's hurt EA, I've got a crazy idea that EA may try to corner the NFL market by getting an exclusive NFL contract. They could double what Take-Two paid and it would still be worth it if they could charge $49.99 and get investors less nervous about this vulnerability.
 
sonycowboy said:
Given how much more it's hurt EA, I've got a crazy idea that EA may try to corner the NFL market by getting an exclusive NFL contract. They could double what Take-Two paid and it would still be worth it if they could charge $49.99 and get investors less nervous about this vulnerability.
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EA would be dickheaded to do that, and the benefits wouldn't be there.
 
CVXFREAK said:
EA would be dickheaded to do that, and the benefits wouldn't be there.
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They already have an exclusive contract for Nascar and THQ had an exclusive contract for WWE. What's so dickheaded about it? It's not show friends, it's show business.

And I do believe the benefits would be there. Now, the NFL and players assocation might not allow exclusive contracts, but if they do, EA would be foolish to not look at it.

And if you look at how much EA's stock price has dropped, I think the benefit would be substantial. EA is willing to fight ESPN if they were just competing on the merit of the product itself, but believe me, they (along with a few other publishers) aren't real happy with Take-Two's pricing move.
 
I am just going to say that I agree with snapty00. The games are only combined when it benefits a persons argument.
 
Vargas said:
I am just going to say that I agree with snapty00. The games are only combined when it benefits a persons argument.
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You mean like whenever they're reviewed? How many major media outlets reviewed Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire seperately? And how many gave them different scores, since they're obviously different games?
 
Vargas said:
When did I say that Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire weren't the same game? You are thinking of someone else.
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When you mentioned them only being combined when it suits a person's argument?

Nintendo divides them down the same way btw (dual releases count together, later upgrades count seperately). So do plenty of polling outlets in Japan actually... there's a clear precedent for it.
 
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