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[Bruno MB]

Now that you guys mentioned it, yes, Vita had Resistance (whole month) and Gravity Rush (20 days).

User that shall not be named, can you give us some hints about how these games performed?

He already gave us a hint about the performance of both titles.

No new PSV game passed 50k, R>G

 

[Sammy Samusu]

He already gave us a hint about the performance of both titles.

Oh I missed that post, thanks.

Bad results though. :/

 

[Ridley327]

Oh I missed that post, thanks.

Bad results though. :/

SCEA is quite honestly the worst foe that the Vita has to deal with right now; they seem almost visibly annoyed by having to do anything with it when it comes to advertising.

The only advertising that I can even recall for both games was the in-store display callouts for the demo units. It's absolutely pathetic.

 

[triggaz]

They should buy some ads on xbl lol

 

[Mr Swine]

SCEA is quite honestly the worst foe that the Vita has to deal with right now; they seem almost visibly annoyed by having to do anything with it when it comes to advertising.

The only advertising that I can even recall for both games was the in-store display callouts for the demo units. It's absolutely pathetic.

Ugh, why release a handheld they aren't really supporting and not supporting their own games???

 

[jvm]

Please do. I don't know what you mean by "whale" in this context.

Many of the channels for digital revenue, DLC and F2P in particular I believe, try to attract whales, people who spend far above what the average player spends. I first heard of the phenomenon from a friend who worked behind the scenes at a social gaming company. He told me that 1% of the players more than subsidized the free experience for the other 99%, because the 1% spent such inordinate amounts of money on non-free extras. Recently there was this thread about a presentation on how Kongregate (owned by GameStop) works behind the scenes. See page 12, in particular of that PPT:

High ARPPU game:
40% of revenue comes from 2% of players who spend >$1,000
90% of revenue from players spending $100+
Top whale has spent $6.7k

Anyway, if you have a tiny percentage of players who actually spend money, then a survey will have to be very good to capture that dynamic.

 

[donny2112]

Not sure if serious. Should I elaborate?

Yeah, not familiar with the term much outside of the mammals. Guessing it may have to do with large amounts of sales can be concentrated in a small niche of people, so it'd be possible to miss them completely. That's just a guess, though. Haven't seen the term used like that.

Edit:

Anyway, if you have a tiny percentage of players who actually spend money, then a survey will have to be very good to capture that dynamic.

Cool. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

Ugh, why release a handheld they aren't really supporting and not supporting their own games???

They know the platform is a dog and they are tactfully turning their backs on it.


That said, I actually think the Vita's launch lineup was pretty strong. It still bombed, however.

 

[Father_Brain]

SCEA is quite honestly the worst foe that the Vita has to deal with right now; they seem almost visibly annoyed by having to do anything with it when it comes to advertising.

The only advertising that I can even recall for both games was the in-store display callouts for the demo units. It's absolutely pathetic.

I don't think SCEA is actively trying to kill Vita, but after E3, I think there's at least a substantial possibility that they're actively indifferent to its fate in the market.

Which isn't really that different, mind you.

 

[triggaz]

Interesting. Are the bitesize experiences on Iphone/Ipad satisying over the core experiences on DS/PSP?

Besides maybe Infinity Blade, I can't find anything comparable to the RPGs and adventure games on Nintendo/Sony's handhelds on the phones.

Wow so far from the truth right now Im playing a classic legend of Gaia styled rpg called Mage Gauntlet a cool zombie shooter called dead trigger chaos rings 2 squares best rpg this gen and dabbling iIn a kick ass starcraft clone called Starfront collision. All those games cost me less than 20 bucks toral not counting the "expensive" Chaos rings 2 which was $15

 

[muu]

Many of the channels for digital revenue, DLC and F2P in particular I believe, try to attract whales, people who spend far above what the average player spends. I first heard of the phenomenon from a friend who worked behind the scenes at a social gaming company. He told me that 1% of the players more than subsidized the free experience for the other 99%, because the 1% spent such inordinate amounts of money on non-free extras. Recently there was this thread about a presentation on how Kongregate (owned by GameStop) works behind the scenes. See page 12, in particular of that PPT:Anyway, if you have a tiny percentage of players who actually spend money, then a survey will have to be very good to capture that dynamic.

Pretty much why Japan had to put up the (partial) gacha ban. Thousand bucks from a person trying to get one rare card seems like pretty easy money.

 

[bafflewaffle]

3ds and vita both flatlining right now. system war between teh fanbois is like two hobos fighting over a bean

 

[DGRE]

If 3DS is flatlining, then Vita is a victim of Necrophilia.

 

[Stealth20k]

3ds and vita both flatlining right now. system war between teh fanbois is like two hobos fighting over a bean

HAHAHA the 3ds was the only system with positive growth after most predicted 35k less sales, the 3ds shattered analysts pre npd expectations.

 

[John Harker]

Crazy how well GRFS held up and how far ahead of Max Payne it'll end up now

 

[Yoda]

If the next gen for the HD twins is really not going to start until 2013-2014, were going to see some studios or publisher implode.

EDIT: To add in some optimism I'm glad Max Payne 3 is still kicking... Good PC games need to be rewarded.

 

[BassForever]

3ds and vita both flatlining right now. system war between teh fanbois is like two hobos fighting over a bean

3DS is getting XL revision and NSMB2, no one is really worried about it's sales

 

[GuardianE]

Numbers look pretty good for Lollipop Chainsaw, I suppose. I had hoped it would be well.

 

[bafflewaffle]

If 3DS is flatlining, then Vita is a victim of Necrophilia.

the chart shows a flatline so it is flatlining. please do not use racial terms toward me.

HAHAHA the 3ds was the only system with positive growth after most predicted 35k less sales, the 3ds shattered analysts pre npd expectations.

35k is very tiny of difference.

 

[Supermanisdead]

dragon's dogma didn't sell 9.9 million........

 

[Zaventem]

the chart shows a flatline so it is flatlining. please do not use racial terms toward me.



35k is very tiny of difference.

Necrophilia is a racial term? lol

 

[Combichristoffersen]

the chart shows a flatline so it is flatlining. please do not use racial terms toward me.

What racial terms did he use? You do know what necrophilia is, right?

 

[bafflewaffle]

What racial terms did he use? You do know what necrophilia is, right?

Sorry I have trouble with new contact. I never heard of that stuff.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Sorry I have trouble with new contact. I never heard of that stuff.

Necrophilia is, to put it nicely, a sexual attraction towards dead people.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

 

[Phonomezer]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

Does this really require an explanation?

 

[jet1911]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

Probably because they're really bad.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

First they had no games, now they have no sales

Spoiler

Most likely because their numbers aren't too hot

 

[VALIS]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

 

[BassForever]

I've seen this gif hundreds of times before, but I don't think I've ever laughed as hard at it, well played.

Also I really wish we would get sell though %s like we do with the Japanese sales, would love to see Conquest ST

 

[Mentaiko_Allergy]

Haha and of course I had to be listening to many men when I saw this post.

 

[Petrae]

Hoe come Sony never gives their numbers?

My guess is that it's a matter of perception. Sony has had little/nothing to gain by sharing its sales numbers publicly. PS3 has squarely been in 2nd place in every month of 2012, and Vita numbers have been so-so at best.

Microsoft shares because the company is on top. Nintendo shares when it finds something positive about the data to convey. Sony is better served seeing the numbers and just filing them away.

 

[Stealth20k]

the chart shows a flatline so it is flatlining. please do not use racial terms toward me.



35k is very tiny of difference.

Its fairly large when its the difference between negative and positive growth.

 

[mujun]

I think most vita hardware is sold digitally so it is not tracked by npd.

Do you have proof that more Vita hardware is sold digitally than say the 360 or 3DS?

 

[jvm]

Do you have proof that more Vita hardware is sold digitally than say the 360 or 3DS?

What the heck is digitally sold hardware?

 

[bafflewaffle]

Necrophilia is, to put it nicely, a sexual attraction towards dead people.

that is bad stuff. to be ashes is better. hoping I have a long happy life!

Its fairly large when its the difference between negative and positive growth.

3ds is nice, maybe I will buy one

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

Do you have proof that more Vita hardware is sold digitally than say the 360 or 3DS?

That was a joke. Some posters claim most Vita software is sold digitally to justify their lousy retail sales.

Hence the hardware digital joke.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Have an estimate for PS3 and a more specific guess for Vita yet jvm?

 

[mugurumakensei]

What the heck is digitally sold hardware?

It's when you go to sony's online store and they print you a custom vita using state of the art 3D printers.

 

[Totobeni]

WB as a publisher is sure doing fine these days.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Do you have proof that more Vita hardware is sold digitally than say the 360 or 3DS?

 

[mujun]

What the heck is digitally sold hardware?

I assumed it was a clumsy way of saying buying from Amazon or something like that.

 

[electroplankton]

Wow so far from the truth right now Im playing a classic legend of Gaia styled rpg called Mage Gauntlet a cool zombie shooter called dead trigger chaos rings 2 squares best rpg this gen and dabbling iIn a kick ass starcraft clone called Starfront collision. All those games cost me less than 20 bucks toral not counting the "expensive" Chaos rings 2 which was $15

I wonder how many S E jRPG you played this gen, because Chaos Ring 2 is not their best jRPG in the last few years by any means.

 

[vagabondarts]

I wonder how many S E jRPG you played this gen, because Chaos Ring 2 is not their best jRPG in the last few years by any means.

agreed. It's terrible.

 

[Rolf NB]

What the heck is digitally sold hardware?

At this point we have to conclude that the terms "internet", "online" and "download" are no longer acceptable in the English language in any context.

 

[Canis lupus]

They should buy some ads on xbl lol

What do you mean? I'm confused.

 

[Miles X]

HAHAHA the 3ds was the only system with positive growth after most predicted 35k less sales, the 3ds shattered analysts pre npd expectations.

You're way to positive about these numbers, most people underpredicted this month because they seemed to have forgotton it was a 4 week month. Unlike the DS at this point in its lifecycle it hadn't had a huge price cut. So yeah, 150k is pretty poor. The only thing to shout about in terms of Nintendo products is the DS.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

What do you mean? I'm confused.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482404

 

[this_guy]

What the heck is digitally sold hardware?

It's like downloading a car, except you pay for it.

 

[jvm]

It's like downloading a car, except you pay for it.

Oh. Never paid for one. I just find a good torrent and zoooooooooom.