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NPD Sales Results for December 2013 [Up2: Xbox One/360 HW, 3DS top system of year]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Yeah, given the gap and the exclusives on both sides that does make sense.
We must wait for our NPD lord and savior, creamsugar. Then we will get some good stuff.
Colonel Nasty
Member
The X1 having a higher attach rate is impressive considering they didn't have a B2G1 that the PS4 did.
But there's nothing embarrassing about it. The XB1 had stronger exclusives, which sold more than Sony's did. Because of that, consumers were less likely to purchase 3rd party games. That's just normal.
The important part is that XB1 had a substantial overall software lead, which to me is counter-intuitive and pretty impressive.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Ryse did great! holy shit lol
I assume he's including digital for his side? Doubt he has access to digital on PS4.
Chobel
Member
Holy shit at those numbers. Is this Dec only or LTD?
RedNumberFive
Banned
Dat hubris. Is this enough for Albert to finally return and explain himself?
Diablo Rosso
Member
I wonder how the $10 upgrade program for PS3-PS4 games did.
It's already known that xbone hasn't outsole ps4 in the us.
Randolph Freelander
Member
You do, of course, realize that Nintendo would be revealing combined numbers that are down year over year, which only continues a downward trend for their business. There is nothing for them to crow about for December, they might as well sit on the news until their quarterly financials.
Wow, MS did great with their exclusives.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Highly likely because of the timed dlc.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think its hard to say how the big picture will be since the PS4 seems to be supply constrained. But the difference in sales between the PS4 and Xbox One version for those games could be smaller than what people first thought, that is a possibility indeed.
theprodigy
Member
well yeah, but the overall software disparity at retail being that high is actually interesting
BananasWithGuns
Member
Nice, Ryse did fairly well for a new IP that was consistently shit on for months.
I really hope Microsoft gives Crytek the opportunity to do a sequel. If given a few years I think they could make a pretty fantastic game when building off the first one.
I really hope Microsoft gives Crytek the opportunity to do a sequel. If given a few years I think they could make a pretty fantastic game when building off the first one.
shinra-bansho
Member
The XBO SKUs selling more isn't really news, as it's already in the OP (SKU ordering is from highest to lowest.)
But I would have thought that releasing the numbers of first party (which really just amounts to Knack and Killzone I think?) Sony titles and total retail software for the PS4 wouldn't be permitted.
But I would have thought that releasing the numbers of first party (which really just amounts to Knack and Killzone I think?) Sony titles and total retail software for the PS4 wouldn't be permitted.
graywolf323
Member
interesting point, since it was handled through PSN the NPD wouldn't track them at all
we only know that they are consistently on top when Sony puts out the monthly PSN sales reports (though they never say how much anything sold)
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/01/09/december-2013-playstation-store-top-sellers/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/12/06/november-2013-playstation-store-top-sellers/
Thanks, my bad.
Considering the hype surrounding Killzone before release, and all the B2G1 deals, I'm very shocked at that number.
Does NPD track Amazon?
funkystudent
Member
So... did Knack at least outsell Mario in the US like it did in europe?
ultratruman
Banned
They still have that exclusive CoD DLC deal.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Again, this isn't considering digital games. Sony pushes digital game sales harder, not to mention deals with amazon now selling ps3 and ps4 games digitally, and there were so huge sales during black friday. I got AC4 and Ghosts digitally for ps4 for about 30 bucks each.
UberTag
Member
Doubtful. They've already conceded the United States to Microsoft and the U.S. is the only market MS frankly cares about due to stacking the deck. It's a battle that can't be won and Sony is far better off focusing on winning the profitability war worldwide. They've made great strides in rebounding their mindshare after the early years of PS3 blew up in their face and that's a token victory they should be proud of.
Bruno MB
Member
November 2013
270k
KSF
220k
DR3
200k
FM5
SOR
185k
100k
KNACK
So around 370,000 units for Knack and Killzone: Shadow Fall and around 620,000 for Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5 and Ryse: Son of Rome.
This would mean that in December Knack + Killzone: Shadow Fall sold around 229,000 units whereas the Xbox One trio did around 880,000.
Of course there is a certain margin of error because for example I counted 200k for both Forza 5 and Ryse while the range is 185k - 200k.
Edit: Now that I think about it, there were more Xbox One first or second party titles besides those 3?
Diablo Rosso
Member
You'd have to think that affected sales of retail PS4 versions of those games.
If it had been the other way around, people would be saying 'Lol, what happened to the XB1's famous advantage with exclusives!' They can't win there.
They sold 0.6m more games on XB1 than PS4. That's the takeaway. The fact that they had a higher share of their sales go to exclusives is not some failure.
Aquamarine
Member
November:
Dead Rising 3: 212K
Forza Motorsport 5: 185-200K
Ryse: 185-200K
LTD:
Dead Rising 3: 738K
Forza Motorsport 5: 642-657K
Ryse: 616-631K
It didn't in November so it's unlikely it did in December.
Portugeezer
Member
Seems so.
XB1 third party SW sales @ 3.3 million; PS4 third party SW sales @ 3.601 (lol 599) million
As an owner of both consoles I tend to root for both equally as possible. I don't normally get involved within sales wars (I do however like to keep an eye on them), however the Greenberg tweets popping up on my timeline is proper cringeworthy. Fair enough they're celebrating their 'small victory', in which I forgot to mention, congratulations to both Sony and MS for these great console launches. These tweets just reek of arrogance. I don't know if I'm taking them the wrong way (Is it just me?), but he's going look like a right twat 'IF' the PS4 leads next month in both software and hardware sales or any other month that it beats the Xbox One. What will he say? Jack shit I would have thought. Maybe it's a bit of banter for Xbox fans and I'm interpreting it wrongly (please tell me if I am). If Sony started to do the same shit I'd be enticed to create another post lol. I apologise if this post is too aggressive, I'd just like to know your thoughts on the matter.
Many thanks, Brad.
Many thanks, Brad.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think it is for December only, based on a previous Tweet where he said that 1st/2nd party Xbox One games sold about 1.5 million units.
salt in the bank breh?
ethomaz
Banned
You forgot US digital.
graywolf323
Member
well ACIV still sold more at retail on PS4 than XBO even with the upgrade deal but would be interesting to hear how close BF4 and COD Ghosts really are with it factored in
sadly we'll never know
Well Sony being the silent type they leave themselves open to cheap shots.
Let MS brag about what little they have left.
theprodigy
Member
KZ is basically 2-3 mil franchise. Don't let internet hype fool ya...if we go by internet hype Dark Souls would be a 20million seller
KZ/Knack did well for what they are and should keep selling for a while too
ps: also keep in mind, KZ is a FPS and it basically went head to head against BF and COD at launch. It's a very competitive market
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Yeah, well if we're going that route. Again, digital software, and the fact that why buy ps4 games when playstation plus is throwing free games at you left and right.
I've had more fun with Resogun for free than any of the xbox one's first party drivel. Except forza 5, that game is ace.
So there are really a lot of angles as to why software is higher on one than the other. Personally, I think it's just that the xbox one has the better software line up. Forza and Dead Rising 3 really give it an edge despite games performing better technically on ps4. Resogun can't compete with dead rising and forza. And killzone, what is one moderately successful FPS game to do?
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
They sold .6m more for NPD sources which are non-digital. He doesn't know jack about the real numbers.
Thanks for the numbers Bruno and Aqua.
lol
RyanPierre
Member
Is it normal for one group to reveal NPD numbers relating to another group? Does each group get access to all the data for all sales, and then they can choose whatever they want to make public, even numbers for competitors?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Good numbers! Thxs Bruno!
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
wait minecraft was a top ten physical retail seller?
i didnt even know there was a retail version of minecraft
i didnt even know there was a retail version of minecraft
BananasWithGuns
Member
Dang, that's awesome for Ryse. I'm glad it did well. I think the word of mouth helped a lot.
Really hoping for that sequel now.