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NPD Sales Results for February 2009
- Thread starter EviLore
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I don't know why people are shocked by the SF4 multiplatform numbers. The sheer shittiness of the 360's dpad and the fact that the PS3 version is the one that will be used at tournaments like Evo would almost certainly mean that a large portion of the hardcore would go for the PS3 version.
There's also the fact that the people who buy SF4 are almost certainly the ones who grew up with the franchise during the days when the SNES/PS1/PS2 were dominant. As a proportion of the respective system's userbase, these people would probably form a larger proportion on the PS3 than on the 360.
There's also the fact that the people who buy SF4 are almost certainly the ones who grew up with the franchise during the days when the SNES/PS1/PS2 were dominant. As a proportion of the respective system's userbase, these people would probably form a larger proportion on the PS3 than on the 360.
Arpharmd B
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Accident said:
It's going to do good in March, no doubt about it. But it's not going to be the mega-hit, PS3 savior alot of people had predicted. Speaking of, was Hoffman banned again? He predicted a big PS3 console sales boost.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Loudninja said:
I really don't think it is coming out anymore. Wasn't the game supposed to come out in March 2009? Not even a screenshot or anything. If they were worried about maximizing the sales of TLR, they should of released them on both platforms at the same time like they do for most other multiplatform games. It is a mystery why most Japanese developers keep placing all of their JRPG's on the X360. I love my X360 just like I love my PS3, but I really don't think the X360 is the ideal console to release most of their JRPG's on. Lost Odyssey did pretty good, but it had a ton of advertising behind it. WKC with somewhat mixed reviews on the PS3 outsold literally all of these RPG's by a substantial amount which is perturbing. I love games regardless of what consoles they are on, but the majority of these JRPG's sales are pretty depressing and I don't want them to go the way of the dinosaur due to lack of sales.
Maybe the software attach ratio isn't as high as people expect for PS3 because once consumers buy a PS3, they don't have alot of money left over for games. I think the primary problem is, most gamers want these systems for games mostly and most of what can be found on the PS3 can be found on the X360 for basically half the price. Once those high profile exclusives started slipping away from Sony, consumers feel like they have less and less reasons to make the investment in a much more expensive PS3. Yes, a price drop would definitely help, but imo Sony also need to give and show consumers other reasons to own a PS3 over an X360 besides BluRay and a handful of exclusives. I saw that $400 PS3 bundle with those 2 games a while back and that is what they should of done during Christmas 2008. I guess it is sort of step in the right direction, but I am not sure if it will be enough. Better than nothing I suppose.
Arpharmd B
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ElyrionX said:
Yeah but even on places like SRK the base is split. Actually, the 360 version is probably a touch more popular there. So it's not the hardcore base that is causing this.
Even more strange is that a good bit of people bought both versions. But saying that the hard-hardcore SF players, players that would know about EVO or care is not going to amount to even 100k people in the United States. There is something else going on, it has alot of us shaking our heads.
Say what you will about the DPad, doesn't change the fact 360 base is double PS3 base. Something is not adding up.
Still, great news for Capcom and SF4. Being my favorite company and game, I am very happy.
jred250 said:
Honestly? Nothing else really does that. Those long legged DS games are unique, its not just that Galaxy hasnt stayed in the top ten for years, its that like......no other game has done that ever. Those DS games are really kind of doing something I cant recall ever happening before. We cant point to anything similar because they are the first of their kind.
Kuroyume said:
Are you seriously going to push that POV when the PS3 kept pace TOE TO TOE with the 360 version of SF4 this month even considering the userbase gap? I know that the userbase isnt something Capcom gives a shit about. But it seems a little odd for you to pimp the PS3 version not being able to outsell the 360 one when it was soooo close, and theres a huge install base difference that makes it seem as if it shouldn't have been close at all in the first place.
jred250 said:
I highly doubt alot of people will agree, but for me it was the online. The online made me buy the DS version and its the same for the Wii. Its a great multiplayer games that we all probably played on SNES when we were younger with friends and family. As an adult the closest you can come to that multiplayer setting is playing online. The very thought of that nostalgia you have for the game years ago bring relived is enough to get alot of people to buy it and try it.
Add onto that that MKDS and MKWii are just really good games and its a wrap. I still think Rareware or ND with CTR could have done better though (if we were talking old Rareware, not new Rare).
duk said:
I dont believe even for a SECOND that KZ2's price tag is anywhere near as low as 20m. Theres no way in HELL.
lowlylowlycook
Member
Flying_Phoenix said:
Furthermore the more advanced the system the bigger the install base has to be. Fancy games are expensive to make doncha know.
Certainly the combined install base of the 360 and PS3 is still to low to avoid 3rd party publishers from losing money making games for them.
DevelopmentArrested
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spwolf said:
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grandjedi6
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oh youspwolf said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Wow, SFIV did better than I expected all around.
Everything else pretty much fell where I expected.
Everything else pretty much fell where I expected.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Well when you figure that Sony makes their money when games are sold to retailers, and not consumers, it's very likely to have recouped its development costs if the 2M+ retailer pre-order numbers are to be believed. It's not like Sony dropped $50M marketing the game.
Not to troll Killzone because the game is awesome and it deserves better sales. But some of you fanboys are the reason others will troll the game and its sales. Here is an idea stop saying 2 days of sales, there is no reason why this game shouldnt be over a million units in the US alone. People jump on Halo for various reasons and compare the quality of both of the games, but little do they know Halo does 2+ million in its first day or 2. (in the US alone) so how about them sales 
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.OldJadedGamer
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ElyrionX said:
If there is a hardware boost from the game it looks like it will come next month if it comes at all but current sales look like the game was selling to current owners.
Jive Turkey
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With all the fairly big titles coming out in March I fear what'll happen around here if KZ2 doesn't chart.
lowrider007
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ElyrionX said:
lowrider007 said:
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Psychotext
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Tut tut... come on people. Need more KZ2 LTD predictions for the end of March.
Mine's 860k for what it's worth. Step up!
Mine's 860k for what it's worth. Step up!
timetokill
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DMeisterJ said:
How much would you think it cost to make?
FateBreaker
Member
Killzone 2, 20 million to make?:lol :lol :lol
timetokill said:
Oh, I've got no clue, and I'm pretty sure it was more than 20 million. I was just finding it ironic that someone can give such a vague number for budget and no one ask for a link, but ask for one saying it's profitable.
I will say that it's really kinda weird to try to figure out if the game is profitable or not, because do we factor in the purchase of Guerilla Games into the 'profit'? Do we factor in the fact that SCE is the developer and publisher, so you don't really have to 'pay' yourself with the sales of the game? How much did KZ2 really cost when you factor in the cost of everything involved, not just pure development costs/time? Kinda sketchy.
FateBreaker
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Psychotext said:
Hmmm...this will probably have some legs, though not amazing legs--but legs, nevetheless. Sooo...I'll say 500k~ by the end of March for NA
BLaZiN PRopHeT
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Blame! said:
Didn't the console sales for the 360 jump over a 150k when Halo 3 was released, and isn't The month Halo 3 came out still MS biggest Non Holiday month?
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I expect Killzone 2 to continue to sell well throughout the year, but I am not expecting it to break any records. Didn't the game have over 1 million preorders in the UK? I see the game selling 2 to 2.5 million units worldwide lifetime.
Psychotext
Member
Wouldn't that be just a tad low? Gears 1 did a million in three weeks, and there were only about 3.5m 360s in the US at the time. KZ2 is selling to over 7m PS3s.FateBreaker said:
Rhazer Fusion
Member
duk said:
I heard the game was over $55 million to produce and yes, I think they will recoup the costs.
The Lost and the Damned sold over 325,000 in two weeks according to Aaron Greenberg:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22833
That is really impressive for a $20 download only expansion. Awesome news for R*.
Gamasutra said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22833
That is really impressive for a $20 download only expansion. Awesome news for R*.