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NPD Sales Results for February 2012 [Up 3: Kingdoms Of Amalur, Syndicate, Asura]
- Thread starter EviLore
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The trailer was getting played on TV all the time when the revelations release was imminent.
I thought it was crazy!!
Neuromancer
Member
XIII-2 placed much higher on the charts than I would have thought. I was under the impression a lot of people weren't happy with the last game, I guess that's not accurate.
Launch week is usually a huge peak in system sales. It's like a default holiday month which includes preorders and early adopters that have been waiting for months for the system.
pieatorium
Member
It sold about a million less than the previous one's first month. If sales are shitty all around placing high doesn't mean much.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Well, if it makes you feel better, RE:R did much better than the ~15k MGS3D did
bigtroyjon
Member
3DS did about 400K in its first 7 days and then did less than 300K total in the next 8 weeks. Even with a big price drop it hasn't gotten to within 100K of that 7 day launch month in any other non Nov/Dec month.
These things are generally front loaded big time which is why this is potentially a really bad month. Of course, if next month is bigger than this ( or really anything above 200K) then all of a sudden this month looks a lot better in hindsight.
Going to have to wait for 5 weeks from now to really have a decent idea of how well it's actually selling in the US.
nextgeneration
Member
While it's only 4 days or 11 days, the problem is that March will probably see even lower sales. That's the significance.
perfectchaos007
Member
As long as I have been here, I have never seen an introductory game or system have a sales increase from the previous month whether it was only tracked for 1 day or 31 days in it's debut month. ( or week in MC threads ) I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I can't recall an occurrence of it happening
nextgeneration
Member
That's been my recollection as well, and this is what many people fail to understand or don't realize.
Take the original PSP, for example. PSP = 620k (10 days of sales in debut month). Subsequent FULL month = 351k
More fuel for the THQ funeral pyre. UFC was supposed to be one of the BIG releases to bring in enough cash to get THQ through the year. They had to be hoping for better than this.
NPD 1st month:
UFC 2009 - 1,014k (12 days)
UFC 2010 - 413k (5 days)
UFC 3 - Down nearly 20% from 2010 (12 days)
NPD 1st month:
UFC 2009 - 1,014k (12 days)
UFC 2010 - 413k (5 days)
UFC 3 - Down nearly 20% from 2010 (12 days)
walking fiend
Member
At least Vita had a better software lunch than 3DS; compared to the hardware sold, much better I would say
bigtroyjon
Member
THQ gave a presentation at Wedbush for investors on Wednesday and said that UFC had both shipped and sold right in line with what they had expected. Sounded like it was going to be a game that they are more concerned with the long run than initial sales, going to be getting continuous promotion throughout the year on UFC programming.
Disclaimer-I own a lot of shares of THQ, not trying to put them in a better light or anything, just mentioning what they said.
MrCookiepants
Member
It's still Final fucking Fantasy, and this is a slow time of year. I mean, how badly were people expecting this to bomb? I'd say missing #1 is a huge disappointment for the game.
Oh, if you own shares, you must use this gif
And remember "Buy low, sell high!". That's the spirit.
haadim
Member
Great Vita numbers for 4 days on market.
Golden Abyss's supposed attach rate of over 50% is out of this world.
Considering Vita game digital downloads are relatively strong compared to PS3, PSP games (going by PSN user ratings), I w'd really love to see the Vita games sales ratio between retail and DD.
Golden Abyss's supposed attach rate of over 50% is out of this world.
Considering Vita game digital downloads are relatively strong compared to PS3, PSP games (going by PSN user ratings), I w'd really love to see the Vita games sales ratio between retail and DD.
Reality. See you next month.
Nah, those numbers are crap cos it includes anyone that pre-ordered one in the weeks/months leading up to its release. That's why, as people have said above, the numbers will almost certainly be even lower for March even though it will include a full month's sales.
Ice burn.
Source? And define "relatively strong"
edit: Wait, you meant you thought the OFFERINGS were stronger on the Vita than on the PS3. if THAT is what you meant rather than a comment on the relative sales then nevermind. I'll agree with surly though that Vita's sales were not great at all.
bigtroyjon
Member
Oh, if you own shares, you must use this gif
And remember "Buy low, sell high!". That's the spirit.
lol
Don't worry, if they are able to turn the business around the stock price will jump up 10x and I'll be posting that gif in every single thread that has anything to do with THQ. Unlike our GAME friend though, I realize it's a long shot and the odds of losing it all is greater than actually making money.
shinra-bansho
Member
They're really not... + FEB.
Question to anyone: Was there any indication on how many FEB there were in the US btw?
Or that Vita games get more ratings than PS3 games which means more people are probably downloading them. (That is my take on his post)
Except that they had already lowered their expectations for the game to 1.5M for the quarter. And from the very rough back of the napkin calculations that we were doing in a previous thread a while ago, they needed this game to sell a lot more than this to have enough cash to cover their expected burn rate for the year. They're basically getting to the point where they'll need a white knight investor to ride in and save them.
So UFC3 did ~330k?
Aside Revelations, which I think it'll do one million in the long run, Capcom can be pretty happy with 3DS, especially due to Monster Hunter 3G.
bigtroyjon
Member
They still have credit to tap into and are still earning money from SR sales and SR DLC along with UFC. They still have at least through the launch of Darksiders II before they need to be worried about not continuing on.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Exceptional hardware sales for the PSVita? Really Sony?
That they cannot provide a number for the the US market (which the NPD covers) and they have to use a worldwide number...that says everything.
Impressive, ignoring what that 50% represents.
That they cannot provide a number for the the US market (which the NPD covers) and they have to use a worldwide number...that says everything.
Impressive, ignoring what that 50% represents.
Yeah - I'm talking more about making it to the end of the year.
boiled goose
good with gravy
bigtroyjon
Member
No doubt about that, odds of them going bankrupt before the end of the year have to be higher than them not going bankrupt
Was kind of funny during the presentation someone asked what they would do if a game exceeded expectations by a few million units and they had an extra 50-100 million laying around. CEO stammered a bit and you could tell that having extra cash laying around was something that hadn't really entered their minds.
Edit- That burn rate from the other thread isn't correct. They said that they expect to be profitable next FY if they make half the revenue of the current FY which ends this month. That would put their expenses at about 30-35 million a month.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
PS360 numbers are really impressive.
340K combined for FF XIII-2? Dehehe
Now I can't wait to see how much SE declare to have shipped to retailers worldwide...
PSV opening sales aren't that good and are likely to fall next month considering the frontloaded nature of hardware launch...
Now I can't wait to see how much SE declare to have shipped to retailers worldwide...
Well PSP had a bursting launch 7 years ago ( so strong it was quickly catching up the DS LTD in US).
PSV opening sales aren't that good and are likely to fall next month considering the frontloaded nature of hardware launch...
Opus Angelorum
Member
They are, and considering both of them are selling (bundles) at a cost similar or higher than that of the PSVita...it disproves the 'PSVita is expensive' notion.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Is that a good or bad number for twisted metal?
WickedLaharl
Member
I hope you gain a foothold vita for a love you dearly and lol @ FXIII-2 failure. It was destined to be so.
shinra-bansho
Member
I dont think thats a fair comparison. I expect the consumer thinks his getting a lot more for his money with a console over a handheld.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Relative to hardware sales - yeah, Vita software had a much better 1st month than 3DS software. Not even close. But because Vita had more launch titles, the average Vita title only sold about 3/4 of the average 3DS title.
Fun fact for launch month (since this stat is almost always reversed for Nintendo):
3rd party average sales per title: 3DS > 2 x Vita
1st party average sales per title: Vita > 3DS
Oh, and for the only brand comparisons available:
Rayman 3D > Rayman Origins
Asphalt 3DS > Asphalt Vita
WHAT!!!!
WHERE. You sure? :O
However, Vita's problem isn't that it costs 250 Dollars. Because it costs more than that with also the memory.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Is this good or bad for Twisted Metal?
Hm...looks like XIII-2 pretty much bombed in the US, 350k-ish is a huge drop from XIII.
PS3-360 gap is quite a bit smaller than i expected.
Agreed.
PS3-360 gap is quite a bit smaller than i expected.
Agreed.
CadetMahoney
Member
Is it too early to say everyone expected it? Anything significant software-wise on the horizon that would push sales? 3DS had a lackluster start too iirc.