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[Metallix87]

any beyond numbers ?

~120K

You joking? Wii U had the price cut and Wind Waker bundle in September. Short memory?

Yeah, short memory struck me. Forgot the bundle.

 

[Sakura]

We're approaching the Holidays, and Wii U had a game last month (Wii Party U), unlike in September.

How big is Wii Party U realistically? In September it had Wonderful 101 and WWHD. For all I know Wii Party U is only as big as W101. I expect to see numbers improve in November with regards to approaching the Holidays. Even PS3 was down over September and it had software last month.

 

[udivision]

Basically what I expected for Wii U.

November is the true test.

How many true tests are there...

 

[Manmademan]

Using 55K for Wii U.

DAMN, Xbox OG was a monster. Wtf happened there.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Super Hedgehog Galaxy < 30k (2 platforms)

W101 size bomba

Spoiler

*tears*

 

[Pain]

NPD becoming so irrelevant, they can't even be bothered to show the top 5 in consoles these days. Would be nice to know at least who came in 3rd, PS3 or Wii U.

PS3.

 

[ZSaberLink]

any beyond numbers ?

120k - 125k

 

[shinra-bansho]

Isn't there a Mario bundle coming? Or is that for EU only?

 

[bigkrev]

While most people here probably don't want to hear this, instead of putting out 3D World, they should have been crunching to get Mario Kart out now instead. That's a game people would pay money for. It was constantly in the top 5 NPDs for years after it's release.

 

[Metallix87]

For all I know Wii Party U is only as big as W101.

No, you can get that out of your mind. Wii Party U likely disappointed in sales, but Wonderful 101 was a financial disaster.

 

[opticalmace]

any beyond numbers ?

Cream said 120-125k earlier in the thread, if I'm not mistaken.

edit: beaten

 

[Xis]

Black Friday sure saved the vita last year, didn't it?
Hint: black Friday sales only work for products people actually want to buy

Vita actually sold really well last Black Friday (for Vita at least). The Assassin's Creed bundle was heavily discounted for the weekend.

 

[Tripon]

any beyond numbers ?

Creamsugar said around ~120K

 

[ZSaberLink]

Isn't there a Mario bundle coming? Or is that for EU only?

The bundle came out November 1st. When did Nintendo's Mario 3D World & Wii U marketing push start again?

 

[jnWake]

I don't really understand why people expect Remote Play to help the Vita much. I mean, there's another console that does something very similar (for less money) and we all know how much it sells...

 

[Takao]

Sonic: Lost World is looking like a Titanic bomba. It sold like 3000 copies in Japan on Wii U, and apparently didn't so hot in the UK.

SEGA gonna die
AGAIN

also lol @ angry birds

 

[vinnygambini]

Isn't there a Mario bundle coming? Or is that for EU only?

Already out on all continents except Asia (Japan)

 

[Steve Youngblood]

How many true tests are there...

I wouldn't say it's the true test. I'd be tempted to say its the penultimate test, with Mario Kart being the last chance to turn things around if things haven't already improved over the holiday.

 

[Fezan]

~120k is bad specially for a big budget titles

 

[popeutlal]

So maybe about 300k to 400k Wii Us sold till next fiscal year...&#128528;

Lets be honest, the market has already rejected this machine and the two new systems haven't even been released yet.

 

[ZSaberLink]

So ...

Hardware Sales:
3DS: 452K
Xbox 360: 166K
PS3: ~110k
WiiU: ~55k
Wii: ~35k
PSV: ~25k

Software Sales
GTAV = 1.1m
Pokemon X & Y = 1.7m
Sonic Lost World (edit: 3DS + Wii U) <= 30k
Beyond 2 Souls - 120 - 125k
Angry Birds Star Wars = 3DS = 3.4k; Vita = 0.4k

What other info do we have atm?

 

[Spieler Eins]

I wouldn't say it's the true test. I'd be tempted to say its the penultimate test, with Mario Kart being the last chance to turn things around if things haven't already improved over the holiday.

There's still gonna be Smash afterwards. And an unlimited amount of ,,wait for next Direct/conference/new Miyamoto IP''...
And I assume the hope will die last for some.

 

[Manmademan]

Vita actually sold really well last Black Friday (for Vita at least). The Assassin's Creed bundle was heavily discounted for the weekend.

Selling well "for vita" isn't saying much. Its finished as a stand alone system and all the black Fridays in the world aren't changing that. Where is it now? 2 million? 3 at the most?

The Wii isn't selling THAT bad, but the damage has been done. Black Friday isn't going to turn anything around for it.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Super Hedgehog Galaxy < 30k (2 platforms)

Good. People who want mario, will buy mario. Make another generations sega.

 

[Sakura]

Vita actually sold really well last Black Friday (for Vita at least). The Assassin's Creed bundle was heavily discounted for the weekend.

Is the Vita getting bundles this year again?

 

[Metallix87]

So ...

Hardware Sales:
3DS: 452K
Xbox 360: 166K
PS3: ~110k
WiiU: ~55k
Wii: ~35k
PSV: ~25k

Software Sales
GTAV = 1.1m
Pokemon X & Y = 1.7m
Sonic Lost World <= 30k
Beyond 2 Souls - 120 - 125k
Angry Birds Star Wars = 3DS = 3.4k; Vita = 0.4k

What other info do we have atm?

Those Sonic sales are for both versions.

 

[prag16]

So maybe about 300k to 400k Wii Us sold till next fiscal year...&#128528;

Lets be honest, the market has already rejected this machine and the two new systems haven't even been released yet.

300k thru March? Come on.

 

[Tripon]

So maybe about 300k to 400k Wii Us sold till next fiscal year...&#128528;

Lets be honest, the market has already rejected this machine and the two new systems haven't even been released yet.

Say that after Mario Kart, and Smash are out.

 

[Miles X]

WiiU at around 515k for the first 10 months of the year.

(Wii is 565k~)

 

[Takao]

Is the Vita getting bundles this year again?

No.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Those Sonic sales are for both versions.

Fixed. Thanks

 

[Metallix87]

So maybe about 300k to 400k Wii Us sold till next fiscal year...

What? No. Probably 300k - 400k next month, maybe 600k in December, and then back to rock bottom for the rest of the fiscal year.

 

[vinnygambini]

Omg just saw Sonic: Lost Worlds sales. How horrible :s

 

[Steve Youngblood]

There's still gonna be Smash afterwards. And an unlimited amount of ,,wait for next Direct/conference/new Miyamoto IP''...
And I assume the hope will die last for some.

If Mario Kart doesn't turn things around after Mario 3D World and New Super Mario, Smash isn't going to.

 

[Manmademan]

I don't really understand why people expect Remote Play to help the Vita much. I mean, there's another console that does something very similar (for less money) and we all know how much it sells...

Functionality is different. Ps4 remote play works from anywhere there's an internet connection, not just 30 feet away.

If the ps4 is a hit, vita can get a small bump or a bundle, but Sony is clearly positioning this as an accessory/indie machine now

 

[Miles X]

What? No. Probably 300k - 400k next month, maybe 600k in December, and then back to rock bottom for the rest of the fiscal year.

Why is December getting such a big jump over November? In recent years Dec has been comparable and even lower for some consoles.

 

[Sakura]

SMTxFE will be the true test guys... Just wait for it...

 

[popeutlal]

300k thru March? Come on.

100k in November,150k in December and then the remaining till March. But you're right, that might be too high.

 

[Crash Station]

November? Launch month for the ps4 and xbone? If it makes it above 100k it will be a miracle.

sub-100k in November? No fuckin way. Only possibility of that happening is if retailers have really lost THAT much confidence in the system and just have no stock, and I can't imagine Nintendo would let it get to that point. There's no way demand would be sub-100k, at least, especially during the holidays with a new EAD Tokyo Mario game.

If it did happen, I have no clue how Nintendo would react. It would be a disaster unlike anything we've seen with the console before.

 

[Papercuts]

W101 size bomba

Spoiler

*tears*

Did we ever get an estimate of that?

 

[prag16]

What? No. Probably 300k - 400k next month, maybe 600k in December, and then back to rock bottom for the rest of the fiscal year.

Don't think the new baseline post holidays will be any higher? If it's not then dear God...

 

[StreetsAhead]

While most people here probably don't want to hear this, instead of putting out 3D World, they should have been crunching to get Mario Kart out now instead. That's a game people would pay money for. It was constantly in the top 5 NPDs for years after it's release.

If, and it is a big if, Donkey Kong is Feb and Mario Kart is March and they can provide evidence of constant releases throughout next year, maybe they have a shot at ... not going back to selling 7K a week. But there are so many ifs and maybes involved. Wii Fit U catching on again, even in a small way, would help, too, obviously.

 

[Immaculate]

Did we ever get an estimate of that?

less than 20k for launch month iirc

 

[gamergirly]

sub-100k in November? No fuckin way. Only possibility of that happening is if retailers have really lost THAT much confidence in the system and just have no stock, and I can't imagine Nintendo would let it get to that point. There's no way demand would be sub-100k, at least, especially during the holidays with a new EAD Tokyo Mario game.

If it did happen, I have no clue who Nintendo would react. It would be a disaster unlike anything we've seen with the console before.

Below 100K with a brand new EAD Tokyo Mario? Launch is making a few people crazy around here hehe......

 

[prag16]

100k in November,150k in December and then the remaining till March. But you're right, that might be too high.

Funny guy.

sub-100k in November? No fuckin way. Only possibility of that happening is if retailers have really lost THAT much confidence in the system and just have no stock, and I can't imagine Nintendo would let it get to that point. There's no way demand would be sub-100k, at least, especially during the holidays with a new EAD Tokyo Mario game.

If it did happen, I have no clue how Nintendo would react. It would be a disaster unlike anything we've seen with the console before.

These guys are smoking something. That possibility isn't even worth considering.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Did we ever get an estimate of that?

I don't remember if a figure was posted, but I remember the early word was that it wasn't in the top 50.

 

[Metallix87]

Don't think the new baseline post holidays will be any higher? If it's not then dear God...

It's possible, but I doubt it. DKC has been delayed, and the marketing just isn't there. I honestly think a Wii U bundle with the new Wii Sports bundled in would've likely helped a great deal, but what do I know?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Did we ever get an estimate of that?

101 is less than 20k but very very close.

it pained me to go back and look up this quote

I hope you're happy, Papercuts. You have done this to me.

 

[Papercuts]

less than 20k for launch month iirc

Spoiler tag that shit that's just not safe for life

it pained me to go back and look up this quote

I hope you're happy, Papercuts. You have done this to me.

I feel both happy and awful.

Also I still haven't played it so I am part of the problem. Forgive me Kamiya for I have sinned...

 

[Trevelyan9999]

These numbers for Wii U show that people just don't see the system as anything better than the first Wii with an added touch screen. Basically it's not worth $300 bucks. Nintendo needs to lower that price way, way down:

to $199 or $149 and keep the great games coming along the way.


Just ride it out Nintendo, make a better design choice next time and think about how to get the consumer's attention.