Aquamarine
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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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It's always fun to list the failures first.
TheSlySoul
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XOne number I am going to guess is 220k.
Which is lacking because the prediction was 300k.
Which is lacking because the prediction was 300k.
TheRagnCajun
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'completely' is a bit of an overstatement. Its no different from the movie industry though. Review scores don't necessarily always correlate to commercial success...or lack there of.
Marketing played its part, but I don't think the gamers are all regretting their purchase.
I really want to know why people think Minecraft would save Vita. Everyone that cares about or is invested into Minecraft has it on a console/mobile phone already. Kids aren't going to just run out and buy a Vita because Minecraft is on it, they'll stick with their friends.
Oh man....I hear drums.
Bum bum BUUUMMM!!!
I hear Sony is only in it for the thrills...after this holiday they will just go back to doing blow off stripper's asses.
CrazedProfessional
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I'm surprised the Vita TV was even made, why bother? It's about as useful as the Pocketstation.
orthodoxy1095
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Memory cards are overpriced...but again, really only if you're not dealhunting.
In that case, Ouya and Shield should come first.
Vestal
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Makes you wonder how the fuck Sony got it so right with the PS4, but have fallen face first into the dirt with the Vita and now PS TV.
Seriously a 99.99 streaming device that does not offer NETFLIX!??!!?!?!
IAmRandom31
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Usually we have had some inkling of numbers by this hour though. The PR would state " salsa continued to grow as we sold 45% more then last month! " or some shit like that. Something. This is the first month where literally nothing has been said about sales. Not even a software sales mention
LastGamer84
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This, I've enjoyed Destiny quite a bit...then again I knew what I was getting into having played the Beta. Reviewers and gamers are just going to have to disagree on it.
I know they could sell it for even less but i'm not sure how that would help MS, it's likely they'll reduce the price this holiday season i guess. I'm sure thw higher ups at MS are not very happy at the idea tho.
Handy Fake
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Sometimes hype and marketing can have a negative effect on reviews too.
#hipstergaming
SwiftDeath
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I look it as a lesson of sorts to take fanboy nonsense down a peg or two. Everybody loves the plucky underdog Vita. Just not like enough to buy one...
Vita isn't part of the predictions. I'd have a tough time coming up with a guess for the PS TV. I'm not sure what a "good" number would really be for it anyway.
digoutyoursoul
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You have acted no better in the past, shitting up threads
In fact you was banned for constant trolling, you was renowned for it
unknownstranger
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I don't see Sony going that crazy with bundles on Black Friday this year. I'm thinking $349 standalone and a $399 bundle with Destiny and Watch Dogs. Microsoft I expect to go crazy with something like $299 Kinectless bundle with a game and a $349 bundle with Kinect and 2 games.
Yeah, if only Sony was in it for the win too...
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
nvm
QuantumZebra
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Find out next month on Pachter Predicts!
BMO = GOAT
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Just got back from playing Destiny. Any numbers leaked yet?
FalsettoVibe
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That would be amazing....
Well, it wasn't completely manufactured. I know I got on board because of Bungie's pedigree. I took it in good faith that they would deliver a game that lived up to their previously high standards. They cashed in that trust with Destiny, and now I'm going to be that much more skeptical of their future games. Live and learn I suppose.
Poimandres
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Still probably outsold the stand alone XB1 Kinect
Audible Phonetics
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What does that even mean?
Sony isnt?
2015 will be a huge year for Sony. If they are outselling now even when MS has the better first party lineup, Sony is going to kill when their first party starts rolling out.
PS is easily the 3rd party console of choice.
I really don't see how MS will ever catch up. And thats not hate, that's just realism.
Dragonborn
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I'll stick to my 249k prediction for the X1. I can't see it doing less than that... it'd be even worse than I'd think.
Handy Fake
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PocketStation sold like 3 million units just in Japan.
PSTV is nothing like PocketStation, though. No one wants that thing.
El-Pistolero
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Is this a case of lowering the expectations to feign excitement when the actual numbers drop? How could it sell less than 200k with a better selection of games, constant promotions and a 5 weeks tracking period?
Also, sad for Forza Horizon 2, although Europe will adopt it more widely, and the game will ultimately show some legs. It still seems to me that MS did not market it properly, putting all its eggs in the Sunset Overdrive basket...
Vita numbers are what they are. On life support and coasting...
The Shogun
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Good god Destiny is such a monster. Part of why Sony had the biggest month ever in digital sales is Destiny's expansion pass sales.
Broke the industry record for DLC attatch rate.
Broke the industry record for DLC attatch rate.
aspiegamer
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I surrendered to this fact ages ago. As long as Sony keeps it available for sale that'll be good enough for people. No one is going to buy a Vita unless they're seriously researched in advance what they want.
Except for... a theoretical Minecraft bundle would be interesting for a sales number, though. Of course "interesting" has a different meaning at four and five figures, but if there's one goddamn game that makes sense for the Vita it's Minecraft.
The Media Create sales numbers lump PS TV and Vita together into one category and then lists them separately as sub-figures but I don't know how NPD wants to play it. It's a strange little device that's not quite like having different 3DS models to combine. Well, 0+0=0 so, eh (I KID). Anyone know how they handled the PSP Go? This would probably be similar.
PeregrinSe7en
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''This is a sad day for America.
I watched the TGS streams, I know what Playstation is all about. All of you Playstation lovers with your loli obsession and your anime avatars, if you love Japan so much, why don't you just move there? It saddens me that Americans would choose to associate with that rather than the sturdy, rugged, masculine, patriotic The One. Yet, throughout these sad times that we live in, I have still kept alive a lingering flame of hope that the great American values will endure, and Pacthers predictions this week helped kindle that flame. But if these news are true, I may have to finally abandon that hope.
If these news are true, that is. Anyone else think its suspicious how NPD starts hiding console numbers, so that we are left at the mercy of the console manufacturers to provide us with what information they will, and suddenly Playstation starts doing better than Xbox? No one else finds it suspicious how the well-informed and knowledgeable video games analyst Pachter, who usually makes predictions with great accuracy, after consulting his vast retail contact network, predicts that The One will come out ahead, yet when we get official numbers, suddenly PS4 has sold more? Its not like this is the first time that Sony is caught with juking the stats. Esteemed video games sales expert ioi recently revealed how Sony was lying at Gamescom with their 10 million consoles sold number. You may think Sony wouldnt go that far, but they have lied to us before. They lied to us about the Driveclub PS Plus version and they lied to us about the power of their systems. One lie leads to another and once you have gotten into the habit of lying, it is very hard to stop.
But I guess this is to be expected. People who want to harm America always have a propensity to believe in made-up numbers. Look at how North Korean citizens swallow lies from their own leaders. Or closer to home, look at how liberals are gulping down the Obama administrations lies. Look at how they are cooking the books on Obamacare and job reports. 250000 new jobs added in September? Hah, where I live, in real rural America, most people have given up looking. 250000 new jobs, my ass. Plus, under President Romney, we would have had at least 400000 new jobs. Or look at how they lie about inflation as an excuse to print money, debasing the dollar further. President Reagan (may he rest in peace) is turning in his grave. Inflation below target? Tell that to my local grocery store and gas station! These Washington types, always coming at you with their fancy numbers and their facts and their smug grins, thinking they know better than you. (And don't get me started on those IRS bullies. Federal income tax is theft and, even worse, unconstitutional, and I'm not paying to help finance a government I never voted for. So they can take their tax return forms and their court summons and shove them up somewhere. Don't bother coming back here!) And throughout all this, the mainstream media keeps cheering the administration on, helping them pull the wool over Americans eyes. This is very similar to the gaming media, incidentally, with their strong Sony bias. Kotaku is far too close to Sony. Always has been.
Maybe its time we started unskewing the NPD results. Even though they started shilling for Sony only relatively recently, I have always felt that their numbers are suspect. They dont track sales from online stores, where more and more customers are taking their business these days. Also, it is well-known that they dont take digital download sales into account. Who knows how many console sales they miss that way?
Still, I am always the optimist. I have hopes for the future. It looks like people are finally starting to see through the Democrats lies. If polls are to be believed, we will put a patriotic majority back in the Senate in November. If it can happen there, we can get the powers for good back into power in the video game business at the same time, with the arrival of Halo: The Master Chief Collection and, most importantly, the monthly OS updates. Until then, God bless you all, and dont forget to vote in November!''
This quote made me laugh.
i lost it reading the north korea part
there's plenty more beauties were those came from
that accurately sums up whats happening here
still no chalkboard though
CrazedProfessional
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This isn't really needed.
Nocturno999
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Didn't also sold the most in the UK? You also have to count the XBO digital sales. The marketing was completely centered in the PS brand but the XBO version had great sales.
James Sawyer Ford
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Where does this view come from? PS4 is trending far better than the Xbox 1 or even the Xbox 360 aligned from launch...and as an interesting side note, here's some months leading up to Halo 3's launch -
April 2007 NPD:
Xbox 360 - 174K
May 2007 NPD:
Xbox 360 - 155K
June 2007 NPD:
Xbox 360 - 198k
July 2007 NPD
Xbox 360 - 170K
You're suggesting PS4 is a loser right now, I don't know how anyone could come to that conclusion given its total sales so far.
The doomsday crowd was proven wrong this month, and their negative outlook didn't seem to properly take into account the huge uptake in early adoption having an impact on the demand earlier compared to previous generations. PS4 met demand and sales softened, but were still strong despite largely non-existent software releases.
Wrong, buddy. I wasn't banned for "trolling," I was banned because of getting into a fight with another poster.
simplythebest
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So Destiny still sold more on Xbox than PS. As expected.
Aces&Eights
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GTAV bundle was already leaked. I'm sure there will be a LBP one, in fact I saw an ad for it earlier but I think it might have been for Europe. There still could be a Vita/PS4 bundle buti personally think a red Bloodborne bundle in Feb would absolutely kill it.
miDnIghtEr20C
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I actually think he trolled PS4 fans. So many of them seem to of gotten all up in arms about it and all. Xbox fans like me were like.. "ya right pac" We all know anything he says.. the opposite comes true.. so know surprise here at all. I mean even an Xbot like me knows that the X1 isn't outselling the PS4 until it's cheaper. Price is everything.
Why all of a sudden all these "hardcore gamers" going to all of a sudden forget about E3 2013 that they can let go and the under powered hardware and all that stuff.. Why would all these people all of a sudden buy an X1?
They won't. Madden numbers show me at least here in the USA people are still rocking their 360's and happy with them. Meh.. bring that X1 to 299 and eat some price.. and then hope to make money on your games.. Watch it sell.
Audible Phonetics
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theprodigy
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all the consoles are probably coming in a pie chart next, and if I see someone say one of the 6 sections is 3DS I'm going to facepalm
neogaffer1
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You see, I don't get this. There isn't anything to point that XB1 did worse than anybody expected other than MS's silence, and they could be silent at something like 300k and nobody would blame them. Sure Pachter's crap made people think XB1 was going to overperform even more but Pachter being wrong doesn't mean the XB1 did badly.
In Japan is PS Vita TV. In US is Playstation TV, so is not related to Vita. NPD will treat as different system.
Uno Venova
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