DJSebolski
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EVGA is my only option since G1 is too long and MSI is too wide/tall. Never again going with Mini ATX case.
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Nvidia announces the GTX 980 Ti | $650 £550 605
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xplicitone
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Supply is low demand is high.
ohh boy...Time to go with the Fury X.
Butt_Sanchez
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I have some amazon credit so I'm probably going to have to wait a month to buy a 980 ti EVGA SC. Right now Amazon vendors are charging $740 and up for a $670 card, I even saw one for $900.
All mine has in stock are 970s. Everything else from this gen are gone. Just some AMD 390x. Guess Nvidia's strategy worked, before the fury x release there were quite a few 980ti reference and various 980s in stock. Now, nothing.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I just want to say how beautiful the Gigabyte GTX 980ti G1 looks. Like, holy moly it's beautiful.
Good ol' hardware porn.
Most likely CPU limited, usage in GTA V is crazy high in some areas. You'll probably find you can downsample from 1440p with no penalty to minimum framerates.
mordecaii83
Member
I'm not CPU limited, I have a 5820k 6-core OC'd to 4.4 GHz. It's mostly the highest grass setting that does it, but that's a very specific case and I'm not sure SLI would fix that.
I found a review that shows that I'd only get about 32% more performance averaged across 8 games at 1080p, and if you take out Tomb Raider's 94% increase it ends up being 22% averaged over 7 games. (This is for minimum frame rates which is what I'm more concerned with.)
Upon further investigation, it would allow me to have everything maxed out in GTA5 and only drop down to 58.8 fps instead of 42.5 fps like it currently does, which would put me so close to that magical locked 60fps...
digitalrelic
Banned
You could also factor that you can DSR all games, which will lead to further increases with SLI.
mordecaii83
Member
Good point. I'm assuming I would have to buy a better PSU if I wanted to SLI 980 Ti's because I'm only running a 750W one right now (albeit a high quality Gold rated one). Not sure I want to deal with all that cable management again...
CreepingFear
Member
I want to pre-order the 980 Ti Classified from Amazon, but it looks like Arkham Knight is not included. It would be nice to play it when it gets patched up.
jim2point0
Banned
+150 on the core, +400 on the memory. Power at 110%.
Increasing the voltage did not help stability at all. Going higher on the core or memory results in driver crashes (grrrrrrrrr).
Firestrike ran fine up to +500 on the memory, but Battlefield 4 locked up twice so I had to turn it down.
Seems game's are a LOT more finicky about overclocks than benchmarks are. But I do tend to play them for longer periods of time compared to how long a benchmark runs.
Here's my highest firestrike result (16267)
To compare, here's my highest Titan-X score (15807)
Have you run your own benchmarks? Don't assume because you have a hex core CPU you're immune to bottlenecks.
Not much difference between the various i5 and i7 Intel chips shown here, clock speed is king:
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2015/04/gtav/charts/gtav_vhigh_cpu.png
If the game was entirely GPU bound at 1080p you wouldn't be getting an extra 12fps after overclocking your CPU. Card tested here is a 970 at very high settings, but bear in mind a 980ti is around 60% more powerful so max settings shouldn't be limiting it at 60fps either.
WonkyPanda
Member
So, I plan to upgrade around October and I have my eye on the 980 hybrid. Wonder if I should just bide my time until Pascal at that point. Then again, my 760 is starting to show its age.
Wag
Member
(non-SC ACX version) 220 on the core, 600 on the memory. No voltage boost (on auto on the fan). Seemed stable, although I'll probably have to lower the memory a bit.
jim2point0
Banned
Wag
Member
Not going to bother. It seems on Witcher 3 anything much higher than 600 on the memory causes artifacts and lockups. I could try boosting the voltage a bit but that doesn't seem to do much on my card.
Holy shit! My 6GB OG Titan just for $456 on eBay. Wasn't expecting that. Time to sell the next 2.
mordecaii83
Member
Those benchmarks are for GTA5 Very High, I was purely talking about all settings at their highest. No matter what speed my CPU is set to, I hit the same FPS when I go to areas with lots of foliage. Otherwise I hold a steady 60fps. So I know it's ultra grass that's the issue and I know it's because of being GPU limited in this case.
My GPU's both hit high 90's utilization, however my CPU will hover around 60-70% utilization with a spike every now and then to 80%.
I know it's silly to buy a card based around one game and one graphical setting, but I do think being able to enable high levels of DSR down the road would be nice as well. And GTA5 proves that while a 980 Ti may run almost anything at full settings 1080p60 with no issues currently, that can always change.
But I doubt I'll SLI because I don't want to mess with swapping out my PSU anyway, so this is probably all moot. I doubt a 750W PSU would handle two of these, a 5820k OC'd, and the rest of what I have in my system.
Edit: Gigabyte 980 Ti in stock at Newegg, go go go!
RukusProvider
Banned
Are we expecting any new cards within 90days?
maybe i'll skip evga this time if the step up is not going to be a real option.
maybe i'll skip evga this time if the step up is not going to be a real option.
Dusktildawn48
Member
I'm gonna trade up from my sli msi 970s to a 980 ti g1. (Won't cost me much) I want that 6gb as the 3.5 is starting the show in certain games. Good idea?
mordecaii83
Member
That's exactly what I just did, seems like a good idea to me!
Dusktildawn48
Member
Notice any difference?
Fair enough, didn't realise GTA V went all the way to 8x MSAA, that would account for a huge chunk of GPU performance.
I guess it's a debate for another thread but I would be focusing your efforts on resolution/downsampling rather than chasing shadows trying to max every last setting in every game for ever diminishing returns. Devs are always one step ahead, including the very highest settings more as placeholder for what will be possible in the future. I'm sure you know this already, but needs reiterating as a feel many people go into buying these new cards expecting to blitz everything at max settings.
My point about the CPU is also not mentioned enough here, 1080/144Hz gamers will be in for a disappointment if they expect to run games like GTA V, Dying Light and Arma 3 at consistent triple figures with this card.
mordecaii83
Member
Oh yeah, I agree with you. I've done what I can to minimize CPU bottlenecks, but they'll still pop up. I'm trying to balance out my system as best I can, and I could still use a little more GPU power before I'm consistently being held back by my CPU.
But I'll probably hold off, at least for a while. I was pretty happy with my 970's other than the microstuttering and loading when it hit the last 500MB of RAM.
I'll let you know when my card arrives tomorrow.
IMACOMPUTA
Member
Whats a pretty reasonable overclock I should shoot for with EVGA 980ti SC ACX ?
jim2point0
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ive always trust heaven to load the cards for OC and i do increments in 5s and if i don't see artifacts i keep going but that's the weird thing, when i go over +150 on heaven it runs fine for about 10 minutes and then the driver crashes, so start going back down the same way and so far the only stable OC that ive gotten is +135 on core and +400 on memory, i have run the heaven benchmark for more than an hour without issues and play the witcher 3 with that OC with no problems whatsoever, i still find hard to believe there are some people pushing over +200 core on reference cards, man that's winning the freaking silicon lottery right there
IMACOMPUTA
Member
depends on room temperature and how much airflow your case has, mine idles at 40
DouglasteR
Member
Just got my EVGA SC 980 ti.
Runs very cool at custom fan profile, idling at 30c load at 59c. No OC yet, no coil whine (thankfully).
Solved all my problems with Direct to Rift games.
I can now play Elite dangerous direct to rift, smooth and stable.
Really nice VGA.
Runs very cool at custom fan profile, idling at 30c load at 59c. No OC yet, no coil whine (thankfully).
Solved all my problems with Direct to Rift games.
I can now play Elite dangerous direct to rift, smooth and stable.
Really nice VGA.
jim2point0
Banned
It does seem a bit high. Mine is idling at 31 degrees right now. Fan speed is 29% and it's extremely quiet.
mordecaii83
Member
Which brand? Some of them turn their fans off at idle, so I could see that temp happening easily.
IMACOMPUTA
Member
Oh, yeah my fan is off at idle.
144Hz display?
ChemicalWorld
Member
Got my gtx 980 ti g1 yesterday along with my acer predator xb270hu. I love this gpu. Can really feel the horsepower from the card (especially in the witcher 3, har har). Only issue i have is that i've detected a dead pixel in the lower right hand corner of the screen along with light bleed in the same corner. Going to phone overclockers uk today and hopefully get a good resolution to the problem.
StarlordDial
Member
Man im planning to buy those two things two as my last parts for my build but i fear for the monitor with the issues of bleeding and dead pixels especially being delivered to Hawaii ;_; has anyone ordered an acer xb270hu from newegg ?
SeeNoWeevil
Member
You are entitled to return it, no questions asked because of Distance Selling Regulations. Don't get fobbed off with any minimum dead pixel policy or anything.
RickyRozay
Member
Should we be expecting a price drop for the 980 or 970 anytime soon?
bobby2times
Member
I'd wait for the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q to come out Q3.
StarlordDial
Member
Fuckk man .. I wanna do that too since i'm buying my last 2 parts anyway on august (980ti and any gsync 1440p)
But i also have my college semester starting on the 3rd week ;_;
980 got discounted when the Ti launched.
digitalrelic
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Yeah, it's a factory overclocked card. Whoop-dee-do. I really don't understand all the hysterics.
Felix Lighter
Member
The MSI card is a little hotter than the Gigabyte G1 Gaming, yet quieter, lower stock performance.
Overclocked, higher boost clock with lower core clock compared to their Gigabyte G1 Gaming sample but obviously that says more about the samples than the models.
While it's completely expected results, factory overclocks are very nice because you have a higher base performance that you are guaranteed. If your card is unstable at the factory overclock, you can send it back. If your card isn't factory overclocked, there is a chance you get a terrible overclocker and as long as it's stable at stock, you are stuck with it.
Overclocked, higher boost clock with lower core clock compared to their Gigabyte G1 Gaming sample but obviously that says more about the samples than the models.
While it's completely expected results, factory overclocks are very nice because you have a higher base performance that you are guaranteed. If your card is unstable at the factory overclock, you can send it back. If your card isn't factory overclocked, there is a chance you get a terrible overclocker and as long as it's stable at stock, you are stuck with it.