Nvidia: Nintendo Switch 2 Leveled Up With NVIDIA AI-Powered DLSS and 4K Gaming
Baemono
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We had a presentation from Nintendo saying the console outputs at 4K max and 120fps max
Same ol G
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The leaks already were 10x the power before dlss and other stuff.
This is just a confirmation of something that was already known.
Baemono
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I believe you just did.
Muddy
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Like the PS5 outputs at 8K max.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
The Nintendo presentation showed games with base PS4 level graphics. Nothing more nothing less.
None with RT or DLSS.
Baemono
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Metroid Prime 4 and Yakuza 0 are already confirmed to run at 4K60.
The games they showed were PS5 games for the most part.
Muddy
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Watch the Nintendo presentation again.
It's all there to see. A console from 2013 did exactly what the Switch 2 does in 2025.
Baemono
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Which console from 2013 outputs at 4k or 120fps with VRR ?
Muddy
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Mostly Cross gen games which ran on the PS4 too.
Are you claiming the Switch 2 is PS5 level now?
There's no handheld on the planet including the most powerful PC handhelds which comes close to the Xbox Series S.
Forget the PS5.
MrCunningham
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It's not Nintendo's style to dump a bunch of technical info on their customer base. They show off the features that people can understand, such as the bigger screen, mouse joycons, the 'c' button, 120fps, HRD, magnetic connections, game sharing.
What they typically don't spend their time explaining is the Nvidia black magic that is powering all of this stuff. That's for the developers to know, and I'm sure Nintendo are also aware that the 'tech related channels' will have their Switch 2 stripped apart and explained in greater detail.
Though I guess back in the day Iwata would have his developer chats and get into the nuts and bolts of things. But the big presentations flow better without all of that technical information bogging it down.
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TintoConCasera
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Sorry but I disagree. If they had the time to discuss all that stuff, drop tech terms like FPS or HDR, and even show this:
Then imo they pretty much could at least have mentioned DLSS.
hemo memo
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They use the Treehouse to showcase games—they could have planned something similar for Nvidia, like a technical presentation.
kevboard
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that's how handhelds work. they are typically between generations graphically and always have been.
sometimes I wonder if everyone in this forum is 10yo and hasn't had any prior experience with video game generations and their accompanying handhelds
Knightime_X
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As long as more games are 1080p 60fps minimum.
Or 60fps bare minimum, I'll be happy.
Or 60fps bare minimum, I'll be happy.
MrCunningham
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Treehouse presentations are for deeper dives into the games library. The Direct was there for the overview presentation. I suppose they could have mentioned something about DLSS in passing. But it just doesn't seem very Nintendo-like to dwell on any of that kind of stuff. I do think it would be better served in a more technical presentation.. maybe with a Nintendo engineer, or someone from Nvidia? Though again, in the past Iwata would get into those details with his "Iwata Asks" series.
Muddy
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The issue is the lofty expectations of the Switch 2 in this thread.
The most powerful PC handhelds on the planet don't come close to the Xbox Series S. Widely considered a Potato.
Many cost close to 1000 dollars.
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kevboard
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what lofty expectations?
you literally started this specific string of posts with this braindead comment here:
so it seems like you had these lofty expectations while everyone else was impressed with how good games on this new handheld run and look.
your comment literally implies that YOU expected more from this handheld and everyone else you spoke about wasn't. you made fun of the fact that they are not expecting more, and now you try to flip the argument on its head
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Muddy
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jufonuk
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Most of the Nintendo fans don't give a shit about all that. Saying it's better res etc is enough.
With what the switch is able to do with its weaker power and all the impossible ports. I'm excited what the switch 2 can run.
As for Nintendo's game looking dated. It's the art style they use. I'm better a few years from now those games will still look great.
DirtInUrEye
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Did you know the 5070 ti is just as powerful as the 4090?
jufonuk
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Tbh I feel Nintendo have released a very capable machine. It's almost like a 3DS leap over the switches DS levels. If the momentum and gameplan is the same as the switch, indies, 1st party games and remasters plus impossible ports I'll be happy. Just depends if Nintendo can hit good sales numbers I'm guessing 3DS levels, which aren't too shabby. I think it would cool if they can hit Switch numbers again. But who knows?
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Muddy
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So which $450 portable hardware could produce visual like these?
Bullshots?
Show us in-game with framerates. We know the answer.
ValiantInstance
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Amazes me how in 2025 some people still try to dunk on Nintendo games for graphics.
If you can't appreciate something like Odyssey because it's in 720p with some low res textures, you're not a real gamer.
If you can't appreciate something like Odyssey because it's in 720p with some low res textures, you're not a real gamer.
All of those are from screencaps of YouTube streams except FF7 Remake.
Muddy
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Can't see average resolution and framerates looking at images.
SweetTooth
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Lethal01
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THIS HANDHELD IS SHIT THE GRAPHICS ARE TRASH FOR THAT PRICE
(instert screenshot of the games looking great)
THOSE ARE FAKE, ITS ONLY REAL IF IT LOOKS BAD!!!
BlackTron
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Switch 2 can't even run cel shaded Wii U game BOTW in 4k. What's it running in 4k, Mario Bros 1?
I think BOTW topping at 1440p should be a big indicator of what really to expect. IMO the system is good but not quite good enough to take advantage of DLSS in a better way.
It needs to both natively render the game at sufficient res and then have a bit of juice leftover for DLSS to use it. Switch 2 appears lacking in that extra 10% of power that could make a critical difference.
Just how I'm reading it at the moment, I hope not.
I think BOTW topping at 1440p should be a big indicator of what really to expect. IMO the system is good but not quite good enough to take advantage of DLSS in a better way.
It needs to both natively render the game at sufficient res and then have a bit of juice leftover for DLSS to use it. Switch 2 appears lacking in that extra 10% of power that could make a critical difference.
Just how I'm reading it at the moment, I hope not.
Buggy Loop
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LordOcidax
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That's 1440p60. It should be able to do 4K30, if Nintendo choose to offer such a mode. 4K60 would be almost 5X more pixels at double the framerate. So you would need like 7X+ more performance for that.
DenchDeckard
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What games were 4k 60FPS in 2013?
saintjules
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I don't think most casuals would know what g-sync is/means. Better left off in an article for them to read and research later.
DenchDeckard
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SO you are saying there is no handheld that comes close to the PS5, not even ones that cost twice the amount of the switch 2...Yet you are complaining about graphics.....
What is going on here?
Lethal01
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Shaki12345
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Nice troll.
Baemono
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It took 10flop machines to run open world games at 60fps before the Switch and you're surprised the Switch 2 can't run an open world game at 4k60 but "only" 1440p@60 ?
insane for a 7 weeks build running in a $450 handheld
KingT731
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Build from 7 weeks ago not a build made in 7 weeks.
Horseganador
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And where is the DLSS or native 4K because according to DF, the games shown so far don't have it.
Lethal01
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build made in 7 weeks not Build from 7 weeks ago
Kataploom
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Hogwarts Legacy was also confirmed 4K 30fps by the publisher
Kataploom
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Nobody is claiming that, it was already expected due to the leaks that it was around PS4 Pro in terms of capabilities but with modern features like DLSS, RT, high speed I/O etc.
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kevboard
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where is the 7 weeks quote originally coming from? I only ever saw second or third hand statements about this and not a single source link
Luminoth-4545
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10x the graphics performance of Switch would put it in PS4 Pro territory in docked mode.
kevboard
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1: BotW is not celshaded, only the characters are.
2: you solely focus on resolution not framerate. the game now runs at seemingly locked 60fps at 1440p, in spots where it ran below 900p at 20fps before (Lost Woods), resulting in a performance increase of more than 7.5x
so according to you our indicator for what to expect, a 7.5x increase in performance compared to the Switch... is this supposed to be bad?
and your whole statement about DLSS makes no sense whatsoever, so not even sure how to react to that.
I'm just so confused with the expectations some people have
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hemo memo
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So we can say:
- Switch 2 (with DLSS): PS4 Pro/Series S level?
- Switch 2 (without DLSS): Above PS4, below PS4 Pro?