Nvidia Shield Thread

It's worth it though, the quality and reliability of the stream is way ahead nvidias.
Yup, I was also surprised by how much better it was. I also wasn't getting randomly disconnected anymore when using splashtop.

I'm sure nvidia will improve native streaming. They did help out with splashtop thd so it would be pretty dumb if they couldn't create an equal or better solution
 
I wonder if its possible to get a vita to work with a pc. Like the shield does.

Getting the video to the vita could probably be trivial to someone that can sniffs packets and decode the h264 video. The problem I think would be sending the inputs.

Can the Vita even run custom code yet?
 
Getting the video to the vita could probably be trivial to someone that can sniffs packets and decode the h264 video. The problem I think would be sending the inputs.

Can the Vita even run custom code yet?
Don't think so. I believe hacks still stuck you into PSP land
 
Can anyone recommend any online multiplayer action games that support 4-8 players, that work well with the Shield?

^^^ You can launch BF4 from Steam's browser, works fine..

I was talking about Android specific games. Are there any android games, particularly first person action or adventure, that support online multiplayer that are fun and work well with the Shield? I already know about Modern Combat.
 
I was talking about Android specific games. Are there any android games, particularly first person action or adventure, that support online multiplayer that are fun and work well with the Shield? I already know about Modern Combat.
Have you tried Shadowgun? Works pretty good the last time I tried it on the Shield
 
This will die fast,I won't buy it

I'm not sure how it will "die fast" since:

1) it plays Andriod games and there are a billion andriod devices

2) it plays Steam games and ditto.

Neither Andriod or Steam are going anywhere anytime soon. That's the brilliance of the Shield. They could discontinue it tomorrow and it would still be an awesome device with plenty of content for years to come.
 
I swear to God, for 3 months now I've come this close to impulse buying so many times so I can finally get the powerful, instantly accessible, and dedicated portable emulator I've been searching for all my gaming life.

Then I take another look at it and go...."no".

- Size is too big (can't even carry this in my laptop bag)
- Controller close to 360's in shape, which I've always hated
- Suffers from "I can't pull this out in public" syndrome (please don't judge me, you know I'm not alone)

If this had a shape similar to the Vita / PSP, even with added girth, I would have gone nuts.

You can't have everything in life.
 
Videogames is the sport of kings. You've got to be an established player (Nintendo) or a monster conglomerate (Sony & Microsoft) to play in this domain. Even Nintendo is looky kinda shaky at this point. I think Nvidia showed big balls to make a play but I don't think it is going to work out so well for them.

Even the almighty Valve may get humiliated if they jump in. But who knows?
 
I swear to God, for 3 months now I've come this close to impulse buying so many times so I can finally get the powerful, instantly accessible, and dedicated portable emulator I've been searching for all my gaming life.

Then I take another look at it and go...."no".

- Size is too big (can't even carry this in my laptop bag)
- Controller close to 360's in shape, which I've always hated
- Suffers from "I can't pull this out in public" syndrome (please don't judge me, you know I'm not alone)

If this had a shape similar to the Vita / PSP, even with added girth, I would have gone nuts.

You can't have everything in life.

I understand you, but basically, I have Android and Ouya. If I have not these machines, and I have this money in my account, your reasons are not enough for me :D
 
I swear to God, for 3 months now I've come this close to impulse buying so many times so I can finally get the powerful, instantly accessible, and dedicated portable emulator I've been searching for all my gaming life.

Then I take another look at it and go...."no".

- Size is too big (can't even carry this in my laptop bag)
- Controller close to 360's in shape, which I've always hated
- Suffers from "I can't pull this out in public" syndrome (please don't judge me, you know I'm not alone)

If this had a shape similar to the Vita / PSP, even with added girth, I would have gone nuts.

You can't have everything in life.

Love my shield but can't disagree with you, all valid points, I really just use my shield at home or at a hotel, never in public, not really because I don't want to, it's just that I never find myself in situations where I need to use it in public, maybe if I started taking public transportation.

Still my most used device after my smartphone, I have spent more time playing with the shield than all may consoles, portable or otherwise.
 
Videogames is the sport of kings. You've got to be an established player (Nintendo) or a monster conglomerate (Sony & Microsoft) to play in this domain. Even Nintendo is looky kinda shaky at this point. I think Nvidia showed big balls to make a play but I don't think it is going to work out so well for them.

Even the almighty Valve may get humiliated if they jump in. But who knows?

Actually, Nvidia Shield doesn't compete with Vita or 3DS, it's audience is PC gamers who want to stream games to a portable device that has a full controller.

The other crowd being the emulation crowd, being able to play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, PS1, some PSP, DS, and more all on the go in perfect pixels is simply amazing. I can even hook it up to a TV and use a PS3 controller as a home emulation box with tons of power.

Shield is a luxury device.
 
Wow, I just got this and I'm already loving it. Sonic 1 works like a dream on the Shield! I'm definitely getting into Android gaming thanks to this. Amazing device so far, really!
 
Are there more reports of such tests? And of Dolphin?
I never tried Dolphin on Android myself but I'm not counting on it. Dolphin is already heavy on the pc side (my oc'ed 3570k + integrated hd4000 couldn't even do 60fps with gamecube games at native gamecube res) so I guess you would be better off just streaming it if you have a good pc.
 
Are there more reports of such tests? And of Dolphin?

Android version of dolphin is more of a proof of concept. Unless the team makes great strides in the efficiency of the emulator, it's not gonna run anything at an acceptable framerate for a few years.
 
Videogames is the sport of kings. You've got to be an established player (Nintendo) or a monster conglomerate (Sony & Microsoft) to play in this domain. Even Nintendo is looky kinda shaky at this point. I think Nvidia showed big balls to make a play but I don't think it is going to work out so well for them.

Even the almighty Valve may get humiliated if they jump in. But who knows?
I don't see how it can really hurt them. Neither NV nor Valve are jumping into the traditional(ly suicidal) videogame market using the conventional strategies. They are using established technology (so no billions in R&D), they are not selling at a loss, they aren't money-hatting developers. What do they stand to lose?

Hell, even those "players" you mention seem to have jumped out of the 1990s/2000s videogame industry. They are using standard technology and not really losing any money at launch, with moderate boxes.
 
Looks like Amazon is going to have a deal on Shield Nov 26th.

Ya I saw that.

First thing that came to mind was that deal talked about in this thread or somewhere else about them offering $100 off and some other incentive. Surely someone else can clarify my gibberish.
 
Ya I saw that.

First thing that came to mind was that deal talked about in this thread or somewhere else about them offering $100 off and some other incentive. Surely someone else can clarify my gibberish.

If you buy a 700 series nvidia card, they'll give you $100 off the purchase of a Shield.

So maybe.... just maybe...... the Amazon black friday deal will be $100 off a standalone purchase?

Doubt it though.
 
I'm trying to sideload Splashtop THD but I get

Parser error: There was a problem parsing the package

error message. Can some of you that successfully installed the application help me out?

I'm using a 32 GB SD card.

I'm using a 64GB card.
 
I'm trying to sideload Splashtop THD but I get

Parser error: There was a problem parsing the package

error message. Can some of you that successfully installed the application help me out?



I'm using a 64GB card.

Are you trying to install it off your sd card? Try transferring the apk file to the shield and then installing it from there.
 
Ok, I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this.

I am only interested in it for the streaming.

I have to be sure about this because just last year I bought a 570 GTX thinking I wouldn't upgrade for a couple of years. Now I'm forced to buy at least a 600 series.

So now I am looking at a 760 for $250 from New Egg which also gives you 50 bucks off the Shield, which I see for $299.

So I haven't really scoured the net for the best possible deal (other than noting that it may have a good deal on Amazon for Black Friday) but it's basically a $500 purchase to be able to remote play PC Games and Emulators.

What isn't clear to me is:

1. There's a list of compatible games but

2. Any game works in Steam Big Picture Mode but

3. Other people seem to find ways to make any game work on it.




  • So what I really want to know is...
1. What exactly works on it. Can I map any game to it such as say Everquest 2? Baldur's Gate? So effectively older games.

2. Just how playable is this streaming stuff. Am I going to feel like I have handheld versions of the game? Or am I going to be in my bed or living room frustrated thinking I should just go camp out at my computer desk? How is the input lag?

3. Those of you who have bought it, did you already have a 600/700 series card, or do you spend 450-700 bucks for video card + shield as well?


Thanks.
 
Well, friz898, I'm trying to setup an streaming solution for my GTX 570. I have yet to map the controls (which need to be done on game by games basis). I got the streaming working so far. Everyone has different tolerance levels for this stuff, but so far I have found that the streaming quality is decent, the input lag is noticeable but tolerable. So, you might not need to upgrade of card just yet if you can tolerate needing relative high amounts of tinkering.

However, I have a high-end dual band router on which I can dedicate the whole 5Ghz band for my shield, which reports a connection of 300mbps. I tried with the 2.4Ghz band (got 112mbps) and I found the games unplayable over streaming.
 
As far as compatibility goes, refer to this google doc (switch tabs on the bottom for android apps)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Q3p3d1JDTU0wS3IyNjVxdDB6MVE&usp=sharing#gid=0

So there's a fairly limited list of games considered "compatible" with the shield. These are games that have been tested and vetted by Nvidia as working. You don't need to launch steam big picture to launch these games. In fact, there's a few Origin games in the list.

So, what about the rest? Well, you can stream (or attempt to) any game in your Steam library. Additionally, you can stream any shortcut you've made in your steam library. For instance, I have shortcuts to the Dolphin browser, allowing me to emulate GC and Wii games and stream those.

Now, some games are incompatible for one or two reasons that I've come across.

1) Game doesn't like being forced down to 1280x720, so it wont display right
2) Game has issues detecting controller input. Sometimes this is "fixed" by having a seperate 360 controller already on, so that games detect the controller input.


Also, the types of games you can stream are really limited to controller supported games. You can technically stream stuff like Baldurs Gate. You can use the touchscreen as a mouse, but it's not really ideal for anything more than getting past dialog boxes that arent supported by controllers. Or you can still use a mouse and keyboard, but then I'm wondering what's the point?

Edit:

Also to elaborate:

Streaming feels fine. Holding up the shield next to the computer monitor, I can't notice any lag. I'm not saying it isn't there, I'm just not sensitive to it. You do have to have a good router, preferably an AC router.
 
Streaming feels fine. Holding up the shield next to the computer monitor, I can't notice any lag. I'm not saying it isn't there, I'm just not sensitive to it. You do have to have a good router, preferably an AC router.

I don't think that the Shield supports AC. However, it does requires the best that 802.11n can offer.
 
To the above 2, thanks for the answers.

I still don't have a warm fuzzy for a $500 purchase. I keep telling myself to wait until I get a PS4 early next year (already have a Vita) and I can remote play games then.

Such as EQ Next, FF XIV, GTA V (hoping for ps4 port) Diablo 3...and a few others.

But I don't know. If I only needed to buy the shield, it would be a much easier purchase to justify. But the amount of money and the fact that my 570 doesn't need to be upgraded for at least another year (to meet my standards) seems like I am wasting my money. I have been reading this thread (and the Shield threads before it) since announcement and I keep going back and forth.
 
I don't think that the Shield supports AC. However, it does requires the best that 802.11n can offer.

Perhaps I've been misinformed, but I always thought that 5ghz signal was AC.

At any rate, it didn't hurt to buy a better router as my old one was terrible.
 
I'm using a 64GB card.

Interesting! Mind elaborating on what 64 GB card you're using, the model etc. please?

EDIT: Oh one final thing, we use electricity system similar to Europe in my country, what should I use if I want to charge the Shield?
 
1) Game doesn't like being forced down to 1280x720, so it wont display right
2) Game has issues detecting controller input. Sometimes this is "fixed" by having a seperate 360 controller already on, so that games detect the controller input.

I had some games that wouldnt recognize the Shield controls even with a Xbox 360 pad connected.

But using Splashtop THD and some wrapper I found in the nVidia forums gives you 100% compatibility with all games.
 
I had some games that wouldnt recognize the Shield controls even with a Xbox 360 pad connected.

But using Splashtop THD and some wrapper I found in the nVidia forums gives you 100% compatibility with all games.

Can you tell me which is it? I'm installing droidmote atm.

Interesting! Mind elaborating on what 64 GB card you're using, the model etc. please?

EDIT: Oh one final thing, we use electricity system similar to Europe in my country, what should I use if I want to charge the Shield?

And ADATA Class 10 64GB card. And the Shield charges via USB.
 
Just would like to give my 2 cents. I have a shield and really like it. I have played Farcry, XCOM, Borderlands 2 and a few others. Needless to say the controller is much better than the Vita and the 720p is really nice.

Here is my problem, you will never use this for multiplayer shooters and here are the reasons:

  1. Since there is no option for direct connect, there is probably too much lag to be competitive
  2. Chances are you are going against a keyboard/mouse user, you will get smoked
  3. expanding further on the keyboard/mouse issue - there is no controller assist in aiming

With that being said, the Shield really only becomes a single player experience(which isnt necessarily a bad thing)

Conversely with the Vita, you are supposed to be able to play over the internet(the shield can do this but isnt supported from nvidia)

If I can pair the DS4 with a Vita - now I can go against similar opponents(with aim assist)

So IMHO, the vita may be better for multiplayer.
 
Just would like to give my 2 cents. I have a shield and really like it. I have played Farcry, XCOM, Borderlands 2 and a few others. Needless to say the controller is much better than the Vita and the 720p is really nice.

Here is my problem, you will never use this for multiplayer shooters and here are the reasons:

  1. Since there is no option for direct connect, there is probably too much lag to be competitive
  2. Chances are you are going against a keyboard/mouse user, you will get smoked
  3. expanding further on the keyboard/mouse issue - there is no controller assist in aiming

With that being said, the Shield really only becomes a single player experience(which isnt necessarily a bad thing)

Conversely with the Vita, you are supposed to be able to play over the internet(the shield can do this but isnt supported from nvidia)

If I can pair the DS4 with a Vita - now I can go against similar opponents(with aim assist)

So IMHO, the vita may be better for multiplayer.

Completely agree, Shield is only viable for single player games.

Can you tell me which is it? I'm installing droidmote atm.



And ADATA Class 10 64GB card. And the Shield charges via USB.

Read this, it will change your nVidia Shield experience forever, I dont bother with the nVidia solution at all anymore, it is complete garbage compared to this.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47009656



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Seems like Nyko is finally selling their Docking Station

http://nyko.com/products/product-detail/?name=Shield+Dock

Im dying to get this thing for my Shield, can someone tell me where to get it, they dont sell it online :(
 
Like others, I've come so close to buying one, I keep telling myself I don't need this, but I want it so bad, lol. If it goes on sale this weekend on newegg, I'm caving in, got a nice sized gift card.

Really interested in streaming games to a TV in another room, with an xbox360 controller through otg usb.
 
I have streaming though spashtop thd and droidmote working on my gtx 570 with a i7-2600K at stock speeds. The shield is connected through a 300mbps connection on the 5Ghz spectrum.

Streaming is capped at 30fps @720p. The input lag is noticeable, but not nearly as high as, lets say, Ps3 + PSP remote play. The compression quality is good, though, Tomb Rider 2013 is the most demanding game I played and the game was indeed fully playable and looked great on the tiny display. No noticeable artifacting. However, the game felt a bit sluggish, seems like streaming at ultra settings (minus the hair effect) has its toll on the system. A second issue is that many games don't support full screen mode and have to be played windowed (Portal 2, Torch Light 2 and SMB).

But the weakest link on the experience is, without doubt, the amount of tinkering that is needed to get the controllers working under droidmote. Even after successfully installing droidmote, you need to instal x360ce to get the games working with the shield's input, and it requires installation on game to game basis, with many games not working at all.
 
Is this actually that much better? I'll probably try it in the next few days if you feally feel it makes a difference.

In my case, and it might be just because im not streaming from the fastest rig in the world (i7 2600k stock and a GTX 650), its so much better that I can actually play my games, nVidias solution just doesnt work for me, I used to get around 20 fps with heavy dips to 5fps with it.

As soon as I changed to Splashtop I started getting 30fps, maybe even 60, not too sure, I just know its smooth and im in love with my Shield now.

I have streaming though spashtop thd and droidmote working on my gtx 570 with a i7-2600K at stock speeds. The shield is connected through a 300mbps connection on the 5Ghz spectrum.

Streaming is capped at 30fps @720p. The input lag is noticeable, but not nearly as high as, lets say, Ps3 + PSP remote play. The compression quality is good, though, Tomb Rider 2013 is the most demanding game I played and the game was indeed fully playable and looked great on the tiny display. No noticeable artifacting. However, the game felt a bit sluggish, seems like streaming at ultra settings (minus the hair effect) has its toll on the system. A second issue is that many games don't support full screen mode and have to be played windowed (Portal 2, Torch Light 2 and SMB).

But the weakest link on the experience is, without doubt, the amount of tinkering that is needed to get the controllers working under droidmote. Even after successfully installing droidmote, you need to instal x360ce to get the games working with the shield's input, and it requires installation on game to game basis, with many games not working at all.

I havent had a single game that doesnt work for me, granted I have only tried around 15 games, at least with THD and Droid mote I can play games I couldnt play before because nVidia wouldnt map the controllers correctly, specifically that one Ninja game in Steam, I forget the name.

Its a hassle to install all this stuff but really worth it.
 
nVidia Shield vs EVGA Note 7 + Gameklip + Dual-shock 3

GameKlipTablet.jpg


I am on the fence. I see there's going to be some deals on the Shield coming up for black friday which could easily swing me if they're good.

I was so on the fence about WHAT I want to do.

Both devices sport the Tegra 4 (which means Splashtop THD should work). I have an Asus TF300T that has a Tegra 3 and I have pretty good results, but there just isn't a proper "controller" for hand held gaming use.

Both have HDMI out and microSD card slots.

Both end up costing around the same.

Shield = $299

EVGA Note 7 = $199
Gameklip Universal mount = $19.95
Dual-shock 3 = ~$60 (I already have one laying around so no extra cost for me)
Cheap plastic case for mounting = ~$20

The only things pushing me to one side vs the other:

EVGA Note 7 = 7" screen. I'll take an extra 2" whenever I can get it.
Shield = Folds up and has a nice carrying pouch made for it.
Note 7 = works as a functioning tablet much better than shield when not in gaming mode. (For me, I have the Asus TF300T 10" so this isn't a huge deal for me, unless I were to trade/sale my Asus tablet.)
Shield = Purpose driven device that doesn't have "bolt-on" parts.

The other thing I am hung up on is the fact that right now the EVGA Note 7 is sold out on Newegg with no eta on re-stock.

I usually mess around for 30min on my lunch break every date on my phone doing stupid things like PvZ or Candy Crush (retired from this one). The Shield seems like it'd be easier to lug with to work.

Part of me was also considering a Vita for this purpose or even a 3DS, but one of the main draws for me is emulation and the ability to play a lot of older retro games, which led me to these two devices.
 
nVidia Shield vs EVGA Note 7 + Gameklip + Dual-shock 3

GameKlipTablet.jpg


I am on the fence. I see there's going to be some deals on the Shield coming up for black friday which could easily swing me if they're good.

I was so on the fence about WHAT I want to do.

Both devices sport the Tegra 4 (which means Splashtop THD should work). I have an Asus TF300T that has a Tegra 3 and I have pretty good results, but there just isn't a proper "controller" for hand held gaming use.

Both have HDMI out and microSD card slots.

Both end up costing around the same.

Shield = $299

EVGA Note 7 = $199
Gameklip Universal mount = $19.95
Dual-shock 3 = ~$60 (I already have one laying around so no extra cost for me)
Cheap plastic case for mounting = ~$20

The only things pushing me to one side vs the other:

EVGA Note 7 = 7" screen. I'll take an extra 2" whenever I can get it.
Shield = Folds up and has a nice carrying pouch made for it.
Note 7 = works as a functioning tablet much better than shield when not in gaming mode. (For me, I have the Asus TF300T 10" so this isn't a huge deal for me, unless I were to trade/sale my Asus tablet.)
Shield = Purpose driven device that doesn't have "bolt-on" parts.

The other thing I am hung up on is the fact that right now the EVGA Note 7 is sold out on Newegg with no eta on re-stock.

I usually mess around for 30min on my lunch break every date on my phone doing stupid things like PvZ or Candy Crush (retired from this one). The Shield seems like it'd be easier to lug with to work.

Part of me was also considering a Vita for this purpose or even a 3DS, but one of the main draws for me is emulation and the ability to play a lot of older retro games, which led me to these two devices.

God damn thats a hard choice, just learned about this Note 7 with Tegra, so very tempting, for sure the biggest disadvantage is the "roughness" of that setup, having to carry the gameklip, a ds3 controller and the dangling USB cable, im guessing the Note 7 will not get rooted for a while so no Bluetooth DS3.

If I wasnt carrying everything around, I would probably go with the Note 7, otherwise The Shield.

Another pro to the Shield is probably battery life, though hard to tell at this point.

Something else, is this EVGA consumer electronic other than Video Cards??? I would probably be wary about its build quality.
 
Streaming is capped at 30fps @720p. The input lag is noticeable, but not nearly as high as, lets say, Ps3 + PSP remote play.

But the weakest link on the experience is, without doubt, the amount of tinkering that is needed to get the controllers working under droidmote. Even after successfully installing droidmote, you need to instal x360ce to get the games working with the shield's input, and it requires installation on game to game basis, with many games not working at all.
IIRC, streaming wasn't capped at 30fps when I used splashtop thd. Input lag was also just as good as native streaming, which already had no noticeable lag to me (maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it?). Lastly, I don't remember installing anything other than droidmote and setting up a 360 controller profile to get the controller to work. Having to paste the dll and x360ce ini files inside the game folders can be a pain though since it breaks native 360 controller input for me.

nVidia Shield vs EVGA Note 7 + Gameklip + Dual-shock 3
Are there reviews already for the tablet? I was wondering if the Shield was a faster device since it should have a better cooler to keep higher cpu/gpu clockspeeds
 
IIRC, streaming wasn't capped at 30fps when I used splashtop thd. Input lag was also just as good as native streaming, which already had no noticeable lag to me (maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it?). Lastly, I don't remember installing anything other than droidmote and setting up a 360 controller profile to get the controller to work. Having to paste the dll and x360ce ini files inside the game folders can be a pain though since it breaks native 360 controller input for me.


Are there reviews already for the tablet? I was wondering if the Shield was a faster device since it should have a better cooler to keep higher cpu/gpu clockspeeds

http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/12/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/

This review praises its performance but complains about build quality.

Now that I think about, I kind of appreciate the design of the Shield, at least for the way I use it. I like to be able to just close the clamshell and put it to the side when I get interrupted, the Note 7 setup above would kind of be a nightmare for stuff like that, and just the fact that you have to put that behemoth together everytime you want to play kind of kills it.

I already have a Note 3 for browsing and other Android related stuff, so the Shield is only ever used for streaming with Splashtop THD.
 
IIRC, streaming wasn't capped at 30fps when I used splashtop thd. Input lag was also just as good as native streaming, which already had no noticeable lag to me (maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it?). Lastly, I don't remember installing anything other than droidmote and setting up a 360 controller profile to get the controller to work. Having to paste the dll and x360ce ini files inside the game folders can be a pain though since it breaks native 360 controller input for me.

How did you measured that? I measured it using Tomb Raider 2013 benchmark tool. I got ~36 average fps with everything maxed out (sans the hair thing). Then I dropped everything to low and got ~32 fps average, which means that either Splashtop must be limiting the framerate or the streaming performance is (extremely) CPU bound.
 
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