NVIDIA to release GeForce Titan

Either way, I just don't see the cost/benefit. But I totally see why peeps are into it. Just not my thing. Air cooling is pretty amazing these days.
 
sk3tch said:
Either way, I just don't see the cost/benefit. But I totally see why peeps are into it. Just not my thing. Air cooling is pretty amazing these days.
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Well, to each their own. I still haven't even been able to be around when these things go in stock to even get one. However, I do plan on eventually getting 2 with the EK blocks. If it turns out that there is a larger gap than you initially presume with overclocking ability, would you perhaps change your stance on watercooling these cards? I just want to see a quad SLI benchmark on water. :P
 
Mystery said:
Well, to each their own. I still haven't even been able to be around when these things go in stock to even get one. However, I do plan on eventually getting 2 with the EK blocks. If it turns out that there is a larger gap than you initially presume with overclocking ability, would you perhaps change your stance on watercooling these cards? I just want to see a quad SLI benchmark on water. :P
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Definitely. mkenyon has been workin on me for some time. Although I'm not so sure on 4-way...lost a lot of interest in that last round. NVIDIA just doesn't support it well enough. Fun for benches and the ridiculous factor but otherwise 2-way is best.
 
sk3tch said:
Either way, I just don't see the cost/benefit. But I totally see why peeps are into it. Just not my thing. Air cooling is pretty amazing these days.
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I agree in so much as my 670 on aftermarket air sits idle at about 22 - 23 average and 55 under load.

Water looks slick but low temps are not exclusive to it.
 
Jburton said:
I agree in so much as my 670 on aftermarket air sits idle at about 22 - 23 average and 55 under load.

Water looks slick but low temps are not exclusive to it.
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Exactly. I ran 3 different 4-way 680 setups and they all were fine temp-wise. Well, except EVGA's atrocious FTW+ cards which were iffy. But both reference and Classifieds did great in the 4-way air sandwich.
 
Jburton said:
I agree in so much as my 670 on aftermarket air sits idle at about 22 - 23 average and 55 under load.

Water looks slick but low temps are not exclusive to it.
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-Max GPU temp: 43 degrees
-Always Max OC
-Fan noise when under load is the exact same as when it's idle, ambient.

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Plus it's pretty. And then companies start giving you free stuff when it's really pretty.
sk3tch said:
Exactly. I ran 3 different 4-way 680 setups and they all were fine temp-wise. Well, except EVGA's atrocious FTW+ cards which were iffy. But both reference and Classifieds did great in the 4-way air sandwich.
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I found the best part is being able to avoid the 70C mark without paying a tax in noise.

SB-E still definitely benefits from a proper loop as well. Ivy if you delid it.
 
fivehorizons said:
I've been needing to hear this!
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lol...well it's the new sk3tch. I'm going to downsize my build, I've decided. Moving my 3930k to my CM Scout 2 and going to sell off my 3820 and return the 3970x. Will play with 3 Titans and return one. Just not enough freakin' time.
 
sk3tch said:
lol...well it's the new sk3tch. I'm going to downsize my build, I've decided. Moving my 3930k to my CM Storm 2 and going to sell off my 3820 and return the 3970x. Will play with 3 Titans and return one. Just not enough freakin' time.
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Sounds like a good plan.

That Scout 2 is such a badass case.
 
fivehorizons said:
I've been needing to hear this!
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I guess each person likes or dislikes different things. Until a about a year ago or so I agreed that Water as just a waste, but working with Mkenyon and getting a lot of guidence I took the "plunge" and yeah, I aint going back to air only unless there are not blocks for my GPU or CPU available. I am able to reach higher clocks (yes, even on the 690) than I did on air. I have to say it does look really neat when it is set up, but in the end for me it was more about keeping my card cool, avoiding that 70c downthrottle and in the end achieved a higher clock and never saw temps exceed 38c on my 690.
 
Hawk269 said:
I guess each person likes or dislikes different things. Until a about a year ago or so I agreed that Water as just a waste, but working with Mkenyon and getting a lot of guidence I took the "plunge" and yeah, I aint going back to air only unless there are not blocks for my GPU or CPU available. I am able to reach higher clocks (yes, even on the 690) than I did on air. I have to say it does look really neat when it is set up, but in the end for me it was more about keeping my card cool, avoiding that 70c downthrottle and in the end achieved a higher clock and never saw temps exceed 38c on my 690.
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Yes, once I started on water, I don't think I could ever go back. True, there are times when I miss the ability to freely swap parts in and out without draining, leak-testing, and bleeding, but the end result is a much cooler, much quieter, much more capable system.
 
Lets be honest. Everything that me, Hawk, and Mystery just said is ex post facto rationalization. We just like to obsess over hardware. Watercooling stuff gives you more parts to obsess over between generations.

#realtalk
 
Well this is going to sound a little odd, but it seems that my Titan is running better than my 690 did on certain games. For example, Witcher 2 and those that know me know I been trying to get this fucking game at rock solid 60fps with Uber settings at 1080p, but even the 690 or before that my 680's in SLI could not handle it. Now, I am not saying that my Titan is delivering on my 60fps endeavor, I am seeing a bit better performance. In some areas where the 690 would drop to the low 30's or so, I am seeing the Titan in the same areas in the 40's or so. One thing I am noticing is that my particular Titan has not been throttling and I am NOT using K-Boost at the moment. I know in almost every bench mark the 690 out-classes the Titan in almost every test, but just finding it interesting that this is happening.
 
Hawk269 said:
Well this is going to sound a little odd, but it seems that my Titan is running better than my 690 did on certain games. For example, Witcher 2 and those that know me know I been trying to get this fucking game at rock solid 60fps with Uber settings at 1080p, but even the 690 or before that my 680's in SLI could not handle it. Now, I am not saying that my Titan is delivering on my 60fps endeavor, I am seeing a bit better performance. In some areas where the 690 would drop to the low 30's or so, I am seeing the Titan in the same areas in the 40's or so. One thing I am noticing is that my particular Titan has not been throttling and I am NOT using K-Boost at the moment. I know in almost every bench mark the 690 out-classes the Titan in almost every test, but just finding it interesting that this is happening.
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I could certainly see it being a "feel" thing - I mean, that's the key to anything with gaming (not benchmarking) - how does it feel to you? Numbers don't matter. SLI is pretty awesome but perhaps it is skewing things a bit and you're noticing less jank with one card.
 
Hawk269 said:
Well this is going to sound a little odd, but it seems that my Titan is running better than my 690 did on certain games. For example, Witcher 2 and those that know me know I been trying to get this fucking game at rock solid 60fps with Uber settings at 1080p, but even the 690 or before that my 680's in SLI could not handle it. Now, I am not saying that my Titan is delivering on my 60fps endeavor, I am seeing a bit better performance. In some areas where the 690 would drop to the low 30's or so, I am seeing the Titan in the same areas in the 40's or so. One thing I am noticing is that my particular Titan has not been throttling and I am NOT using K-Boost at the moment. I know in almost every bench mark the 690 out-classes the Titan in almost every test, but just finding it interesting that this is happening.
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Didn't you get two?
 
Some guy modified the bios on the Titan to allow it to go beyond the set TDP. No test results yet, but keeping an eye on it.

BTW...Are we going to use this thread for posting Benchmark and overclocking stuff of the Titan? I am doing some testing and am fining some interesting things about this card thus far. Good news is that I seem to have almost figured out the down-clocking and hwen it happens, but still testing.

Sorry...here is the link to the bios being modified. Apologies...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...-Owners-Club&p=5174525&viewfull=1#post5174525
 
Hawk269 said:
Some guy modified the bios on the Titan to allow it to go beyond the set TDP. No test results yet, but keeping an eye on it.

BTW...Are we going to use this thread for posting Benchmark and overclocking stuff of the Titan? I am doing some testing and am fining some interesting things about this card thus far. Good news is that I seem to have almost figured out the down-clocking and hwen it happens, but still testing.
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Almost wish we could get a new thread, to get a clean title etc. but I guess it's a bit overkill for one card :P
 
sk3tch said:
I could certainly see it being a "feel" thing - I mean, that's the key to anything with gaming (not benchmarking) - how does it feel to you? Numbers don't matter. SLI is pretty awesome but perhaps it is skewing things a bit and you're noticing less jank with one card.
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Using Fraps. I have a very good memory and know where I could make the Witcher 2 in uber go down to the low 30's on the 690. In the same place I am seeing about 10fps higher with the Titan (just using one titan as of right now). The area I use is in teh begining where Geralt comes out of the tent after having some fun with Trish (lol). Basically if you pan to the left where you see all the catapults and other stuff with all the shadowing would normally bring it down to around 32fps in uber at 1080p with the 690. On the TItan this same scene goes down to 42fps or so.
 
Sethos said:
Almost wish we could get a new thread, to get a clean title etc. but I guess it's a bit overkill for one card :P
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Based on the interest of the Titan, perhaps we should start a new one. I vote for you or Mkenyon to start it. I am crappy at making a nice OP on something.
 
Hawk269 said:
You will pick up some wattage from not having a fan that draws power from the total 265w available. The higher you clock, the higher you run your fan to keep it cool. The overclock sucks up juice as does the increased speed of the fan. With a Waterblock you have no fan to draw power. Plus, there is nothing bad about running your card(s) cooler at the 32-40c range versus the 80c+ without a waterblock.
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Ah, that explains the fan trick.

I was just going to write as a response to temp that "Meh, my silicon likes to stretch" due to the heat stretching it, but I suddenly noticed that it could be misinterpreted...
 
mkenyon said:
Lets be honest. Everything that me, Hawk, and Mystery just said is ex post facto rationalization. We just like to obsess over hardware. Watercooling stuff gives you more parts to obsess over between generations.

#realtalk
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While this is true, I did see advanteges in Water Overclocking my CPU and GPU that I could not achieve on Air alone. So it does have it's benefits outside of "something else to tinker with". I will probably never own a desktop ever again without some form of watercooling. It is funny that some people that mock those that go water use self contained water loops like ones that Antec/Corsair make.

To me this is just a hobby for me and I enjoy doing it. I don't get my feathers ruffled over peoples opinion about it. Yeah, I will post in forums about my experiences in going to water, but not to the point where I get stressed over it! This is about having fun!

Anyways...Will be back a bit to report more findings on the Titan and Overclocking.
 
Hope I'm not speaking too soon...but I installed Windows 8 Pro and Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 6 and it seems that my Crysis 3 crashes may be gone. For my sake I hope so.
 
Never mind the crazy OC on the Lightning. Very few "in the wild" cards hit that. 1300 is pretty much guaranteed but beyond that it gets sketchy. I loved those cards but I can't believe they didn't drop a 4GB version...anyway, not that it matters. If you'd rather go 6xx versus Titan then that is great - lots of value out there!! I've been enjoying my 690 for these last few days, BF3 MP at 1080p/120hz...it kills. Titan project this weekend. :)
 
With the new beta driver and precision x, I'm getting throttling, but able to maintain higher clocks in Crysis 3 (Clock offset +135MHz, 0 mem clock, max power target, max overvolt, auto fan)

Titan 1: 1150MHz
Titan 2: 1163MHz

Titan 2 runs cooler thus able to maintain higher clock speed.
 
memecomplex said:
With the new beta driver and precision x, I'm getting throttling, but able to maintain higher clocks in Crysis 3 (Clock offset +135MHz, 0 mem clock, max power target, max overvolt, auto fan)

Titan 1: 1150MHz
Titan 2: 1163MHz

Titan 2 runs cooler thus able to maintain higher clock speed.
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Great a new driver to install. Right after upgrading to W8 and getting the issues I had a few days ago sorted out.
 
Newegg hasn't restocked in a while have they...

Wondering if I should just wait for the GTX 7xx series later this year.

EDIT: Dammit, EVGA had some in stock a couple hours ago and I missed the email.
 
Shit. They go fast. Had one in my cart and was thinking. Finally, decided to buy and they were gone. Definitely, next time.
 
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