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NYC MTA to have *$15 BILLION FUNDING GAP* by 2006

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goodcow

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MTA to tell commuters: Take a hike!
BY PETE DONOHUE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, October 5th, 2004

Forget about being spared a fare hike next year.
The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is looking to Albany for financial help - but only for its capital plan and operating deficits in 2006 and beyond, a top agency official said yesterday.

With no support from Albany on tap, a bus and subway fare hike in 2005 is inevitable, transportation officials and advocates said. "It will be very tough to fight the fare hike," said Gene Russianoff of the Straphangers Campaign.

MTA Executive Director Katherine Lapp yesterday outlined the agency's daunting fiscal hurdles before an Assembly hearing on Staten Island. "Our plea to you is to help us fund the capital plan and, as we get closer to 2006, help to support our operating plan," she said.

The MTA's proposed five-year capital plan - including station rehabilitations, new subway cars and a Second Ave. line - has a funding gap of about $15 billion.

In the day-to-day operations, matters also are bleak. For next year, the MTA forecasts a $436million operating budget gap, which it plans to fill partly by hiking subway, bus and commuter rail fares, as well as bridge and tunnel tolls.

Monthly unlimited MetroCards would rise by $6, to $76, and weekly cards by $3, to $24. Officials hope to keep the base bus and subway fare at $2 through 2007.

Cutbacks, including closing many token booths, also are on track. Such cuts can be averted if the MTA board votes this year for even higher fare hikes, Lapp said.

Even with a hike next year and a possible increase in 2007, the operating budget gaps - thanks largely to rising debt payments and pension costs - will be huge in 2006, 2007 and 2008, she said.

Lapp urged riders to come to future Assembly and MTA hearings to argue for more government aid, which advocates agree is critical.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I think DC or is it MD, living here in Montgomery county I get news from both so it gets kinda confusing... I'm think it's DC is going through something similar where they may have to raise fares again.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
^

You moved?

I work in Bethesda.

Metro has been pissing me off. Not only does my contract no longer subsidize transportation cost, but they keep going up. The delays are consistant...

Very annoying to pay more and get less.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
DaCocoBrova said:
^

You moved?

I work in Bethesda.

Metro has been pissing me off. Not only does my contract no longer subsidize transportation cost, but they keep going up. The delays are consistant...

Very annoying to pay more and get less.

Oh yeah I moved to Germantown oh about around February/March. Got a job here in DC and started end of August so I catch the Metro in from Shady Grove most days.

Either this month or next month the place I work at is implementing the Metrocheck deal which is where they take money out pre-tax and put in on your smartrip card. I'll probably do that after the baby is born. In the meantime since we're starting to get near that time(she's stopping work the middle of the month), I'll start driving in to DC(I work 7-4, as long as I'm out of the house by 6:10 the commute is USUALLY ok) and parking(early bird specials aren't bad usually $9) here waiting for that inevitable day I get the phone call...
 

Doth Togo

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I want to see DC get a Metro Card with unlimited monthly use for $76. Living in Old Town Alex and commuting to Farraghut every day via Metro costs more than that. WTF.

I want my unlimited usage, dammit!
 

Tazznum1

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Something is seriously wrong at MTA. First they said they were in a huge deficit, then raise the fares and then find out they are actually millions in the green. Then a few months later they are millions in the hole again. Now they are going to raise it again? WTF is going on?
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Death Togo, DarienA...

It's amazing that we don't run into each other every morning. Seriously. Although I prolly get to work later than you guys, I leave often early. I'm all up and down the Redline.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
DaCocoBrova said:
Death Togo, DarienA...

It's amazing that we don't run into each other every morning. Seriously. Although I prolly get to work later than you guys, I leave often early. I'm all up and down the Redline.

We have no idea what each other looks like we may have bumped into each other at some point. ;) I'm usually reading when I'm on the train though as well. I usually get off/on in DC down at the Farragut stop, on a slightly off note is there anywhere in that area K Street, Conneticut Ave, 18th Street, etc... where you can get a lunch for a decent price? Geez....
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
:lol

I know exactly what you look like DarienA. I never forget a face.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
I am glad I have not met DCB, yet. I imagine it'd go something like this...

"'SUP?"
"OMG HE'S GOT A GU- [BANG!]"

The End.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
"'SUP?"
"OMG HE'S GOT A GU- [BANG!]"

The End.

:lol

There's major overhead when it comes to running mass transit. Think about the amount made daily off of fares alone... It's a lot. I don't have figures, but it's a ton of $$$. But w/ that comes a lot of money spent. Constant car, track, station, escaltor and elevator repairs. Overtime to have those repairs done. Growth, like the numerour stations they're building simultaneously...

It's not that cut and dry. Sure they bring in a ton, but there's a lot of money to dole out as well. Not to mention MD and VA holding on to their $$$ and not trying to contribute. That's why they're lobbying to have the federal goverment step in since it's vital to the Nation's Capitol and its infastructure.




Fact: Amtrak has never turned a profit. If the Government didn't foot most of the bill, there'd be no Amtrak.
 
Kuroyume said:
What the freaking hell are they losing money on? Service sucks
IAWTP

The L train is a fucking joke. It often doesn't run in Brooklyn for full weekends. Other times there's simply no late night service at all.

And where's that fabled 2nd Avenue line (which should be placed even further east at this point)?
 
tazz, this one's for you.......
*takes deep breath*

















































































FUCKING BLOOMEBERG!!!! FUCKING MTA!! FUCKING PATAKI!!!!!!

that is it. the last straw. the last fucking straw. it's impossible to live in this city unless you rob a bank and even the banks are broke, fucking republican dumbasses. they all get voted in by rich manhattanites and the rest of us suffer..... fucking fucks...
 

Tazznum1

Member
Wow Pataki got a shout out. :D


Remember when metrocards were first introduced. They said it would save millions and millions would be earned on interest alone because they get their money up front instead of people using change on buses and buying tokens everyday.

What a friggin joke. I spend $40 a week on the express bus and then another $6 a day for the Goethels bridge, then another .95 for the GSP everyday. F*ck you already. Seriously.
 
i cant believe we even let these people into office so they can appoint these morons who rob us blind and on top of all that, they cave in to greedy unions who want as much of the pie as they can get, sometimes more. not fair....
 
Yeah, I can't believe the MTS is allowed to operate a minute longer. It's corrupt from top to bottom. Why the fuck isn't someone stepping in?
 

goodcow

Member
To be fair, this isn't entirely the MTA's fault.

The MTA is currently neck-deep in debt, and a shitload of their financial problems is coming from paying that, and the interest off. But those decisions were made quite a while ago.

Secondly, we keep getting funding cut. And with the federal government's plan of matching state subsidies, any cut Pataki makes is really double the blow.

There's a law on the books where a quarter of a percent of all sales tax money is to go to the MTA. Of course it doesn't, and it gets appropriated into other shit.

We should be pissed at the politicians, not necessarily the MTA board members, even though they themselves suck as well.
 
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