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[Plumbob]

This whole angle of the story feels off to me. I can't explain it.

Is Don Jr being setup to be a fall guy?

It just doesn't work because Kushner is involved in this as well.

 

[KingV]

Maybe. Or maybe they have a better understanding of what's actually illegal and what isn't. IANAL but I would bet that for this new info to be helpful, it would have to be proven that DT Jr knew for a fact that the dirt on Hilary was illegally obtained. Good luck with that.

But hell, maybe King Cheetoh will be impeached by Labor Day.

It actually doesn't matter how the information was obtained or whether they used it. Soliciting help in an election from foreign entities is a violation of campaign finance laws all on its own.

 

[timetokill]

I'm sorry but this seems too good to be true. That email has so many incriminating factors that it's almost as if someone faked it. I keep thinking back to that Maddow piece how fake intel was being shopped around by Trump supporters to delegitimize the media.

In which case, there's now proof of Don Jr fabricating stories... which isn't nearly as bad but there's no way nothing comes of this.

 

[tolkir]

Is it possible for any of them to face the death penalty for this?

There isn't Cold War, so no.

 

[Iolo]

reading this article and my jaw actually fell open

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Maddow being given fake shit has me spooked. Which is the point, I guess.

What story was she given that was fake? I remember the tax returns which were supposedly real.

 

[trebbble]

Could they be setting up junior as the fall guy, who is then pardoned?

 

[Codeblue]

I hope there's a mountain of ethics and accountability laws passed when these dopes vacate. It shouldn't take this long to sink a president as he's ruining the Earth.

 

[Any Questions]

This story is moving very quickly

 

[Ludovico]

It's all coming together, and it's just too perfect.

Can't wait to read the full debriefing and context for all of this (ALL of it - whacky Russian celebs, incompetent family, lawyers lawyering for lawyers....). Following along just on a day to day basis has been a taxing (and so stressful) experience.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

They are trying to make him the patsy, but no way Mueller is going to settle for Junior when he can take down the whole cartel.

 

[Plumbob]

It'd probably do you a huge favor to stop individually trying to assess these stories and instead look at them all collectively. These are earth-shattering revelations in this case.

Given US and Russia's history I hope this isn't literal

 

[Knoxcore]

In which case, there's now proof of Don Jr fabricating stories... which isn't nearly as bad but there's no way nothing comes of this.

You're right. If it was fake, why would he tweet it?

 

[Sidewinder]

Ahahaha, I love it!

 

[FunkyMunkey]

if evidence of trump finding out about this and agreeing to it comes out (or even exists) which you know he did, trump actually has a good chance of being fucking toast

 

[SoundofSilence]

Could they be setting up junior as the fall guy, who is then pardoned?

That's pointless - all of this will be tied back to Trump Sr.

Mueller's job suddenly got much easier.

 

[SparkleMotion]

I hope there's a mountain of ethics and accountability laws passed when these dopes vacate. It shouldn't take this long to sink a president as he's ruining the Earth.

The founding fathers never accounted for an political party being traitors to the country.

 

[PopeReal]

Do people who keep posting "nothing will come of this" not realize just how historic all of this is?

Each story alone, without context may sound boring. But holy shit at the "nothing" people. The only nothing about it is that there is nothing in American history to compare it to. Watergate didn't involve a foreign government working with a political party to secure victory.

 

[FaintDeftone]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

 

[greycolumbus]

It just doesn't work because Kushner is involved in this as well.

Yeah Jr can possibly walk. I think Kushner might be the one that needs to be concerned. He's already failed to report this meeting.

 

[Anung]

This whole thing is like Burn After Reading. Just rampant stupidity.

 

[George Washington]

He just released the chain on twitter.

 

[Boke1879]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

Yup that's exactly why he hired a lawyer yesterday because of this

 

[SparkleMotion]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

Uhh no? He released them because NYT was going to release them anyway.

 

[ComradeZero]

What morons. Ofc the cult won't care.

 

[IronRinn]

This is what being told you're invincible your whole life looks like. Holy shit.

 

[Incognito]

Trump jr posting the emails thinking they vindicate him. i mean laugh out fucking loud.

 

[SoundofSilence]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

If that's what he actually believes then a Nobel Prize for stupidity needs to be awarded.

 

[I Big JG I]

Boom! Have a nice time in jail. Thanks NYT, the real American Heros!

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

NYT played this masterfully. They even played all of their surrogates in the process. Makes me wonder if they had this email from the jump.

 

[Dierce]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

The US government is not prepared to deal with this level of corruption and incompetence. The damn electoral college was created to prevent a corrupt populist from taking over but even that failed.

 

[Funky Papa]

Quoting one of my favourite political analysts:

So instead of hysterically running in the opposite direction of something that would be obviously radioactive and politically lethal if it came to light (conspiracy with a rival government during a presidential campaign, no less), he said yes, he wanted to meet and invited two more people to the campaign. Prolly through e-mail, too, because everything points towards the man being that stupid.

The Wire said it better:

 

[Any Questions]

This whole thing is like Burn After Reading. Just rampant stupidity.

Indeed, but it sure divided the country with all this mess. Russia couldn't be happier

 

[always crazy bacon]

I'm sorry but this seems too good to be true. That email has so many incriminating factors that it's almost as if someone faked it. I keep thinking back to that Maddow piece how fake intel was being shopped around by Trump supporters to delegitimize the media.

This is something we should bare in mind. The other side could be getting played also.

 

[BasicMath]

I'm confused. What does Jr have to gain by posting them himself? He's probably incriminating himself and absolutely exposing federal crimes by his bro-in-law.

It shows that he has nothing to hide in terms of that particular meeting. In other words they're now willing to admit that they talked to some Russians about possible information on Clinton. Information that may or may not have been true or important.

But that doesn't mean that they were involved in the DNC hacking and the phishing of Podesta's email.


In any case, I'm more worried about the leak source than this. This is important but by itself and so far it means very little.

 

[Dead Prince]

Keeping tv rating alive. Thanks Trump and friends

 

[PopeReal]

So basically Don Jr. is rubbing these emails in our faces and laughing while our government will continue to do nothing about it? Gotcha. Looks like business as usual.

The GOP doesn't want to do anything.

But that won't matter in the end. They are just stalling to get more shit agendas in.

 

[fr0st]

Why did he post it in Twitter

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

Do people who keep posting "nothing will come of this" not realize just how historic all of this is?

Each story alone, without context may sound boring. But holy shit at the "nothing" people. The only nothing about it is that there is nothing in American history to compare it to. Watergate didn't involve a foreign government working with a political party to secure victory.

They either just straight up have no patience or don't want anything to come of these things.

 

[Ac30]

“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

That sentence screams glaringly fake to me. Surely no one could have actually written that? The letter might as well say "we are please to engage in treason which your father has personally agreed to and also he hates America and Jesus." It just doesn't sound real.

At this point I'm half-expecting this to be a long con, White House advisers trying to sink their presidency always stank. Especially since Junior posted these emails on Twitter.

EDIT: I guess trying to get ahead of if makes sense, in some way? Uhhh

This whole thing is so fucking odd

 

[MassiveNights]

NYT played this masterfully. They even played all of their surrogates in the process. Makes me wonder if they had this email from the jump.

Course they did

 

[rambis]

Uhh no? He released them because NYT was going to release them anyway.

Right. Brad just confirmed this.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/884796896413462529?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

 

[Muffin1611]

I waited for this.

*cough* *cough*

BUT HIS EMAIL

 

[BronsonLee]

Why did he post it in Twitter

Here's why Donald Trump Jr. just tweeted out his emails:

After being told that The Times was about to publish the content of the emails, instead of responding to a request for comment, Donald Trump Jr. tweeted out images of them himself on Tuesday.

 

[Netherscourge]

So, Don Jr. goes to jail.

-Before he even exits the courthouse, President Donald pardons him.

Donald Trump himself needs to be ousted before any of his cronies goes to jail for this shit.

Otherwise, he'll just pardon everyone.

 

[acheron_xl]

What story was she given that was fake? I remember the tax returns which were supposedly real.

They got forged documents that implicated someone in the admin in something collusion-y and nefarious and didn't run the story, but instead ran a warning to the rest of the media.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

KAINE: "The investigation, nothing is proven yet. We are beyond obstruction of justice. This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/884778150936424448

 

[Beer Monkey]

The markets have gone south.

The Trump markets are all about possible massive profits in the next couple of years due to idiotic tax cuts that will only damage our economy further down the road.

A massive correction wouldn't be a bad thing if it brings the markets back in line with realistic sustainable growth, which is going to be hard enough in the face of automation.

 

[Chococat]

Trump Jr must be taking marching orders to throw himself under the bus. It seems like this is all building up to a narrative that "if there was collusion, it was just this idiot doing it, and look at what an idiot he is. Case closed."

Granted, this is not going to take heat off Trump himself, even if they think it might.

I think there is an in fight going on between Kusher and Jr..
Kusher is smart enough that he his trying to deflect on Jr.
Jr is not so smart and think this release will give him leverage of some sort. Also thinks daddy' s pardon will save him.

 

[greycolumbus]

Why did he post it in Twitter

Because either he's not a very bright man or he's being set up as a fall guy.