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NYT: Refugees and immigrants being detained at US airports right now.
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Regardless, it's noteworthy because Trump has talked about successfully bringing the Olympics here in 2024 and making that something he could tout and be proud of.
Also, skipping over the arguments about whether such events yield net profits, when Trump's policies prevent business from coming here, that plays directly against him.
Skellig Gra
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Lol nah Trump needs at least another week before we hit that threshold.
DragoonKain
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I'm not a political guy, so correct me if I'm saying something incorrect here.
Trump said during his entire campaign the things he's now doing is exactly what he's going to do, no? He said he wanted a wall, he threatened to ban Muslims, he was anti-science, anti-environmental awareness, etc, right?
And even though he didn't win the popular vote, 62.4 million people still voted for him anyway?
To me, that is just as big if a problem as Trump himself, no?
Trump said during his entire campaign the things he's now doing is exactly what he's going to do, no? He said he wanted a wall, he threatened to ban Muslims, he was anti-science, anti-environmental awareness, etc, right?
And even though he didn't win the popular vote, 62.4 million people still voted for him anyway?
To me, that is just as big if a problem as Trump himself, no?
orthodoxy1095
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I feel like it's worth pointing out for anyone who might care that Bier writes for Cato. Dunno how sound his analysis is, but it is interesting.
I don't see why anyone would hope or care. The IOC and FIFA have let literal dictatorial regimes compete in their events. A ban on the USA wouldn't count for two rat shits without them banning other countries.
Well, if you rule on law and have a decent spine, then it shouldn't be an issue. The worry is the Supreme Court setting precedent on it after Trump has made his new Justice pick.
More_Badass
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This racist motherfucker
Edit: tweet may have been hasty, bill was from 2015
Edit: tweet may have been hasty, bill was from 2015
Dark Cloud
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What in the fucking world??
UltimaPooh
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Yes. You are right.
It strikes me as darkly hilarious that in consideration of all the inhumane, awful shit that's going on right now, anyone could view this as an important concern.
Families are getting split apart, people's lives are getting destroyed. Who gives a fuck about the Olympics?
They start with laws. When these helping groups still exists, they will be come after with guns.
EmCeeGramr
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[very wise conservative or centrist voice] Your mistake was taking Trump literally. His hyperbole was a populist ploy to ingratiate himself with the white working class by showing he was serious about tackling jobs, healthcare, immigration, and security in a way that spoke to their frustrations, not necessarily signalling he was actually going to do these things, and the voters picked up on his rhetoric in turn.
*Trump actually literally does all of those things*
Hmm well look at the time, gotta go
*Trump actually literally does all of those things*
Hmm well look at the time, gotta go
Dual citizen of the US and which country?
Puck Beaverton
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someone has to think about water polo
I shall be their voice
Please think about water polo
Cruz ate too many boogers
Trump moves quite fast. I'd give it a few days
Trump and Bannon move fast on purpose. The stronger the fascist momentum, the harder it is to stop. The faster they do things, the faster they hope to wear down protesters... and if protesting falters at all, they will have free reign.
FinalStageBoss
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Of course it will. This only the beginning for that racist piece of shit Trump.
Yes, this is exactly right. Trump is merely the flashpoint for the ugliest strains of American life. He didn't create them; he just gave them a megaphone. This is exactly what his supporters wanted.
orthodoxy1095
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Do you know anything about the economic sinkholes that Olympics are? Or the incredible corruption and lack of morals within the IOC? There's a lot of stuff to be upset about with Trump, but possibly losing the Olympics is incredibly far down the list for me.
Sure, it hurts him a bit. But in the long run does it do him that much damage? He'll play it off as some globalist elite conspiracy and pander to his base with any IOC pushback.
Basically I feel in agreement with this:
'but it's not a muslim ban!' - Orange guy
Blackquill
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oh man this isn't possible
Razgriz-Specter
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Why are we waiting so long?
This is great. Mayor of Seattle as well.
Ya...
We're definitely entering a dangerous time if Trump/Bannon are making moves like this. The Joint Chiefs are not going to take this sitting down. These are some of the most powerful people in the country, and control the military.
Trump and Bannon are playing with fire, and this is fire that can march into the White House and drag them into the streets.
BlueTsunami
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Amazing. Who would have thought New York would return to being a harbor for immigrants.
orthodoxy1095
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Uh what does this mean? In Reddit lingo, ELI5?
I wonder how many people would have still voted for him if he said "I'm never going to release my tax returns" in the debates.
But.. promises kept.. right?
FinalStageBoss
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Someone should punch him in the head
Dubbedinenglish
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Motherfucking Putin will feel more safe in the US than refugees.
broncobuster
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Considering the 1936 Olympics happened in Berlin, it's a strong message to dump USA.
DigitalRicket
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I better to get on the ball and apply for citizenship before he considers a ban on Mexican immigrants next. I'm a permanent resident and have lived in the US legally and lawfully since I was 1 year old. I'm nearing 30 years old and for differing circumstances I haven't been able to apply for citizenship but I feel now that takes propriety in my life before I get "sent back" to a country I have no ties or a life in.
GutsOfThor
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What does this mean in laymen terms?
DontBeThatGuy
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Alright, it's time to make donating to the ALCU a monthly thing.
Friday before President's Day weekend. It has symbolic valence and general strikes require planning and organization.
BlueTsunami
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The DNI and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are no longer going to be automatic members to the National Security Council, meaning that they could be removed (or have been removed) and would have no control/oversight/insight on domestic policy moves done in the name of "security" like this ban.
Basically, its a consolidation of power or an attempt at it, against the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the DNI.
what does this mean?
These things add up, and it's how you might get some of the 'reasonable' Republicans to turn on Trump. The ones who only care about business opportunities.
I hear you, but here's another way to think of that statement: one of the more influential cultural organizations in the world just said the United States is no longer trustworthy or safe enough for them to hold their premier event there.
CherryWoodFuton
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Just mailed in my N-400. I'm from the Philippines so Trump might be fucked enough to ban us because of the Islamist Mindanao
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