"OCCUPY WALL STREET"

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Firestorm said:
Not from what I could see. Cars were still going. I'm not that familiar with New York, but most bridges have area for pedestrians to walk and that's where this seemed to be.Yeah, they were chanting "Let Us Go" in the feed I saw earlier.
The Brooklyn Bridge is divided into two sections. The section to drive on, and the section for pedestrians.

Brooklyn_Bridge_cross_section.png


Now, if they were on the lower section, they are blocking traffic, and not following the rules rules for the road (It may not of been all the traffic, but some of it)

If they were on the upper section, with the amount of people they had, they would arguably still be blocking tragic, just not in the way people normally think. Rather, they would be stopping pedestrians from walking the bridge (Along with blocking the bike lane)

Anyone have some normal pictures of the protesters on the bridge?

"You don't have to go home but you can't stay here"
 
Thanks for clearing that up. Although as mentioned, "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here" doesn't work if they aren't letting you leave!
 
Firestorm said:
Thanks for clearing that up. Although as mentioned, "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here" doesn't work if they aren't letting you leave!
This is assuming the Officers didn't tell them to leave first, they didn't leave, then declared "Fine, you are all arrested"

Though they may of just showed up and arrested everyone. Even if they did that, the police aren't really doing anything wrong.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
That's not exactly buying off officers. Sounds more like a great donation. I wish more companies would make donations to public sectors.

Not sure if stupid or just trolling....Actually, its pretty obvious you are trolling, but still.

And it's nice to see this protest spreading. Just think, a couple of weeks ago people were saying that this was going to go away. Stupid trolls...
 
Drkirby said:
This is assuming the Officers didn't tell them to leave first, they didn't leave, then declared "Fine, you are all arrested"

Though they may of just showed up and arrested everyone. Even if they did that, the police aren't really doing anything wrong.
The livefeed stopped and was showing old footage but I'm pretty sure that chant was from before the arrests.
 
bounchfx said:
anyone dismissing the original intent behind this to begin with is probably an idiot, or possibly a billionaire afraid that somehow the rest of the country is going to impose on their lifestyle by reducing their quarterly raises by 30%.

there's no reason to not be for this. at all. let's get this straight. People fucked up, and they need to be held accountable. not everyone else.
I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I still don't know what these protesters actually want. As far as I can tell, they all want different things.

Is the end goal an anarchist revolution, criminal trials for random unnamed bank employees, laws limiting corporate donations to political parties, laws limiting ALL private donations to political parties, or the abolishment of the federal reserve and a move to the gold standard?

Higher taxes, reducing deductions, throwing out politicians who supported the stimulus program, throwing out politicians who opposed the stimulus program?

What is the protest about? Do they even agree on what it is they want?

What policies am I endorsing if I support their protest?
 
I'm seeing now how it's almost like a battle without bullets. You need counter tactics to block their crowd control tactics to allow your protests to not get broken up or pushed around. haha it's interesting.

someone make an Iphone game out of this. like an overhead view. Use the old Syndicate template.
 
fortified_concept said:
ABU is not proper clothing thus it would make them inappropriate for protesting. Manos logic!
Oh I know, just thinking it would be interesting. Military abu's would be more controversial than the blues.
 
Slavik81 said:
I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I still don't know what these protesters actually want. As far as I can tell, they all want different things.

Is the end goal an anarchist revolution, criminal trials for random unnamed bank employees, laws limiting corporate donations to political parties, laws limiting ALL private donations to political parties, or the abolishment of the federal reserve and a move to the gold standard?

Higher taxes, reducing deductions, throwing out politicians who supported the stimulus program, throwing out politicians who opposed the stimulus program?

What is the protest about? Do they even agree on what it is they want?

What policies am I endorsing if I support their protest?
Well, at the very least from these protests, I do think I am going to write a letter to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, like one of our State Senators encouraged us to. But I have no clue what they want.
 
Drkirby said:
The Brooklyn Bridge is divided into two sections. The section to drive on, and the section for pedestrians.

Brooklyn_Bridge_cross_section.png


Now, if they were on the lower section, they are blocking traffic, and not following the rules rules for the road (It may not of been all the traffic, but some of it)

If they were on the upper section, with the amount of people they had, they would arguably still be blocking tragic, just not in the way people normally think. Rather, they would be stopping pedestrians from walking the bridge (Along with blocking the bike lane)

Anyone have some normal pictures of the protesters on the bridge?

"You don't have to go home but you can't stay here"
Seems like they where on the lower part.
10111police.jpg


Since this would be the view from the upper part
Zombi_2_2.JPG
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Seems like they where on the lower part.
10111police.jpg


Since this would be the view from the upper part
Actually, it looks like its both parts, you can see they have the upper part full in the left side of the picture.

But yeah, they are blocking traffic on a major bridge.
 
Drkirby said:
Well, at the very least from these protests, I do think I am going to write a letter to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, like one of our State Senators encouraged us to. But I have no clue what they want.
What are you planning to write about?
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
That's pretty rich coming from a guy who backed the London Riots. lol


Your stupidity keeps you from making any sensible arguments so I'll forgive your completely irrelevant remark or the fact that you support JP Morgan bribing the cops, the same cops btw that are now randomly gassing and arresting protesters.
 
fortified_concept said:
Your stupidity keeps you from making any sensible arguments so I'll forgive your completely irrelevant remark or the fact that you support JP Morgan bribing the cops, the same cops btw that are now randomly gassing and arresting protesters.

GASSING!

LOL
 
fortified_concept said:
Your stupidity keeps you from making any sensible arguments so I'll forgive your completely irrelevant remark or the fact that you support JP Morgan bribing the cops, the same cops btw that are now randomly gassing and arresting protesters.

I believe the vast jewish conspiracy behind wall street will be uncovered shortly. what are your thoughts on this?
 
My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fucking Marine Corps first. Let's see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets.

If you are breaking the law then you don't get special rights "Marine"

This is all pretty funny in the overall sense, a bunch of idealists railing against the evil machine for something that has no chance of happening whatever the hell it is
 
Not sure if blocking the bridge is the greatest idea ever, but man, it sure is heartening to see people doing something and giving a shit instead of rolling over. I'd be there too if I still lived in the area.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Gassing? Explain how they are being gassed?
I'm assuming fortified_concept meant pepper spray. Simple mistake to make. Actually, isn't "gassing somebody" and "pepper spraying somebody" used pretty interchangibly? Certainly nothing to lol about.

x Power Pad Death Stomp x said:
The poster makes it look like "occupying wall st" is a scam.
Hah, you're right.

Deku said:
Especially when posters have a reputation for being a hysterical anarchist sympathizer.
Oh noez!

I'm not familiar enough with this thread or the poster you're talking about, but I love anarchists, and I think hysterics is an appropriate response to this age of capitalist insanity.
 
omg.kittens said:
I'm assuming fortified_concept meant pepper spray. Simple mistake to make. Actually, isn't "gassing somebody" and "pepper spraying somebody" used pretty interchangibly? Certainly nothing to lol about.

In a message board on the internets, words are parsed to mean what they mean. Especially when posters have a reputation for being a hysterical anarchist sympathizer.
 
omg.kittens said:
I'm assuming fortified_concept meant pepper spray. Simple mistake to make. Actually, isn't "gassing somebody" and "pepper spraying somebody" used pretty interchangibly? Certainly nothing to lol about.
No, gassing implies tear gas or something far worse. Being sprayed or maces makes a lot more sense.
 
Slavik81 said:
What are you planning to write about?
Well, I am just going to try and write a short message to them to try and cut back on the the amount of speculative trade done in it. I got this email from one of our Senitors:

“A loaf of whole wheat. A gallon of gasoline. A pair of Levi’s. Americans are paying more for many basic items this year, making tough economic times even tougher.”

Part of the reason, according to The New York Times, is that speculators are still playing games in the marketplace. Our regulators allow them to wildly bid up the price for everyday items we need, like wheat, gasoline and heating oil. Click here to read The Times article.

Despite a clear directive from Congress to rein in excessive speculation, our watchdogs in Washington seem to be listening more to Wall Street, and not acting quickly enough to protect American consumers. Consider: On any given day about half of the oil futures contracts are bought and sold by traders, not companies that use oil, like airlines and power companies. And the sky’s the limit when it comes to how much of the market traders can control.

To help stop the manipulation of commodities prices, send an e-mail now to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission - and tell the members to stop speculators from interfering with the price of food and energy. Tell the commissioners to stop listening to Wall Street lobbyists. Tell them to impose meaningful position limits.

And while you’re at it, forward this note to your friends, family and others who care about this issue. If the commission hears from enough folks, it’ll adopt stronger rules next month when a vote is scheduled.

Sincerely,
Bill Nelson

Now, I don't take these things at face value, so I did some research into it, and he is more or less right. The amount of day trading done in the Commodities market has gone up more then 2000% in the past 15 years, especially in Oil futures. One example I found in anther article was when Gas reach $4 per Gallon in 2008. The amount of oil supplied went up compared to 2007, and the use went down compared to 2007, yet the prices continued to go up anyway.

If you think something is wrong, I will more then gladly take evidence showing otherwise. I could clearly be a fool who bought into confirmation bias when looking into it.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
No, gassing implies tear gas or something far worse. Being sprayed or maces makes a lot more sense.

lol at the it makes a lot more sense part. And I can't believe someone had to explain it to you what I meant, that's amazing. Also, it's so naive of you to think that they won't use tear gas if the protests become bigger.
 
magicstop said:
There is talk about the Marines getting involved in order to support the protestors. Reports aren't entirely clear, but here's one of the few sources I've found:
http://www.in5d.com/occupy-wall-street-the-marines-are-coming-to-protect-the-protestors.html



Also, folks, these things are all breaking, so asking for "legitimate news sources" is going to be a bit of a moot point for awhile. Start digging and seeing what you can come up with. This is how things are as they break.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31419408&postcount=1794
 
fortified_concept said:
lol at the it makes a lot more sense part. And I can't believe someone had to explain it to you what I meant, that's amazing. Also, it's so naive of you to think that they won't use tear gas if the protests become bigger.
Except they haven't and you said they have been gassing protestors.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Except they haven't and you said they have been gassing protestors.
Hardly matters. If this thread is anything to go by, you'd be the first to defend it's use.

Wazzim said:
Seems like that 'hippie protest' is growing quite allot eh? It's only a matter of time..
There is a lot of seething anger at the financial sectors of this country, and it cuts across all political boundaries.
 
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