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Aiii

So not worth it
PG WWE:
A mother will do anything to protect her kid -- just ask former "Shark Tank" winner Shelly Ehler ... who's picking a fight with a 6'5", 239-pound WWE star after he made her 8-year-old cry.

Ehler -- who scored a $75k investment on "Tank" for her ShoNo towels -- has a serious beef with Alberto Del Rio ... who snatched her son's handmade sign during a WWE event in Anaheim, CA this weekend ... and RIPPED IT UP (or at least tried to).

In the video (above) Del Rio isn't quite strong enough to rip the sign in half (it is cardboard) ... so he takes off small, pathetic, chunks instead.

FYI -- it's standard practice for the wrestlers to interact with audience members "in character." In this case, the sign was pro-Sheamus ... the wrestling arch-nemesis of Del Rio.

But TMZ spoke to Shelly, who says her 8-year-old was terrified by the wrestler's actions and instantly burst into tears. She adds, "Del Rio is a bully. I looked at him and said 'he's crying' ... and he mocked him."

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Shelly -- who says her 8-year-old cried all the all way home -- vented her frustrations to the wrestler on Twitter and then fired off a an angry letter to the WWE.

In the letter she says, "Take signs from adults NOT KIDS! My son was bullied by your superstars and it is not okay."

Despite her demands, Shelly claims she's heard crickets from Del Rio -- but his manager tweeted her back and said, "lol blah blah blah."

FYI -- as soon as Shelly contacted Sheamus about the incident ... he immediately offered to send her son a signed photo and meet with him next time he's in town.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/09/wwe-a...s-shark-tank-son-cried-apology/#ixzz28nFncR53

:lol:
 

cacophony

Member
Be a STAR

I don't know what's funnier, that kid getting so upset or Del Rio not being able to rip it in half and just ripping off tiny pieces
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Thinking about mailing TMZ and pointing out that Ricardo is not his manager, but rather his manservant.
 

strobogo

Banned
Ideas for Punk post punchgate:


My already mentioned idea of a ridiculously large security group surrounding him at all times. I'm talking like 30 people deep.

Bring back the Russo Pope Mobile.

Deliver all promos from the Pope Mobile that is slowly circling the ring, allowing fans the opportunity to throw booze bottles and cigarettes at it.

Combining both the Pope Mobile and ridiculously large security group.

Doing all promos Via Satellite...but making sure it is known he's in the arena.

Doing all promos Via Satellite inside a Pope Mobile surrounded by 30 security guards.
 

El-Suave

Member
SO impressive. I do think he'll need to come up with a new gimmick soon, though. The "No/Yes" thing is already starting to feel a little stale. "I'm the tag team champions" is pretty great, but he can only ride that horse for a little while as well.

He has added the beard/moustache twirl and the "I'm very handsome" routine he used on AJ and Larry King's wife. And his WWE Youtube stuff is amazingly funny. No other wrestler makes me crack up like he does. The way he fires off his random one liners shows he has amazing comedic skill.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
My already mentioned idea of a ridiculously large security group surrounding him at all times. I'm talking like 30 people deep.

Bring back the Russo Pope Mobile.

Deliver all promos from the Pope Mobile that is slowly circling the ring, allowing fans the opportunity to throw booze bottles and cigarettes at it.

Combining both the Pope Mobile and ridiculously large security group.

Doing all promos Via Satellite...but making sure it is known he's in the arena.

Doing all promos Via Satellite inside a Pope Mobile surrounded by 30 security guards.

I have some ideas:

1) Punk needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.
 

antonz

Member
That Del Rio story is such bullshit. Can you imagine the shitstorm the Million Dollar Man would cause with the old school fuck with the kids promos he used to do?
 

trunbuns

Member
That video absolved Punk for the most part to be honest. Punk reacted badly but he was in a bad situation.

Hope he doesn't get suspended as I'm going to a Raw house show on November 2nd.

Edit: Also, I would have loved Del Rio to have ripped my sign if I was that kid. I was a mark for heels when I was younger though.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I remember on Raw last week (maybe it was Smackdown) Punk ripped up a kids sign and the kid looked like the happiest guy on earth.
 

McNei1y

Member
I remember on Raw last week (maybe it was Smackdown) Punk ripped up a kids sign and the kid looked like the happiest guy on earth.

And two weeks ago, Punk was interacting with those two kids. He was "fake" giving them high fives. I would be so pumped if a wrestler did that... but then again I can see how a child could think that the wrestler was picking on them or something.
 

trunbuns

Member
And two weeks ago, Punk was interacting with those two kids. He was "fake" giving them high fives. I would be so pumped if a wrestler did that... but then again I can see how a child could think that the wrestler was picking on them or something.

Wrestling is interactive entertainment though and Del Rio's actions were no worse than that of a pantomime villain. Obviously Punk's idea of interactive entertainment might be a bit extreme.
 
None of this would have been an issue 20-30 years ago. THERE I SAID IT!

Well, I guess it wouldn't have happened because people didn't necessarily know it wasn't just a show and certainly wouldn't want to provoke a dangerous heel, but on the flip-side, when people think it's real, there's a greater danger to the heel from the crowd. When Hansen wrestled Carlos Colon someone threw a 10-inch knife at him, and after Hansen broke Bruno's neck he got numerous death threats and had to have a police escort to and from the ring, because people in the crowd were pulling knives and guns.
 
I remember on Raw last week (maybe it was Smackdown) Punk ripped up a kids sign and the kid looked like the happiest guy on earth.

Daniel Bryan ripped up that kid's sign too. Either this get is very lucky, unlucky, or a spot.

Punk is by no means extreme when he is taunting kids. Heels like him are what make WWE so fun to watch
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Still watching Raw, divas getting longer matches and a storyline definitely seems to be working, they're actually getting a pretty decent crowd reaction.
 
Timing is perfect for what? How is full force punching a fan in the face twice while not even on camera perfect? I fail to see why this would make any sense whatsoever to be a work. Talent and fans physically striking each other is never a good thing except in Japan. That's something that never, ever is encouraged or acceptable in US wrestling, especially WWE. When it is an angle, it is pretty obvious it is an angle. IE, by being the focal point of cameras and talked about by announcers.

Ratings are at a low point, CM Punk was leaving anyway, they asked him to punch a local wrestler (the tall bald guy) to raise a lot of controversy and get people to tune in to 'what happens next'. WWE makes an example of Punk, he leaves (which he was going to do anyway) Cena becomes the brand new champion and Linda McMahon romps to victory.

It all fits.
 

sajj316

Member
The likes of RAW:

- Ryback did not Shellshock Punk. No need to. Have people pay to see it
- Punk's feud with Vince and eventual feud with Austin (planting seeds now)
- Ryback in the mix for Hell in the Cell. WWE has a contingency if Cena can't perform. If Ryback is in the match, I will buy. If anything .. I want to see him go for more than 10 minutes. It's still probably going to be Cena since I don't see Punk going over Ryback this early
- Antonio Cesaro .. money. He needs a legit feud
- Good to keep the Prime Time Players chasing .. they looked good in the lose. It will make their eventual win all the more important
- Punk and Bryan are just awesome together. That line by Kane calling Larry King Skeletor made me spit up my water. Speaking of which, I though Larry King was a good sport about it .. I smell Kofi push!
- seems AJ is being dialed back .. I think that's a good thing. No need for over exposure


The dislikes of RAW:

- Where is Ambrose? It's obvious that fans are getting tired of stale characters. Chop the roster and get new blood in there....
- So what's the state of the WWE Vince?
- Seems Kaitlyn can wrestle .. but what's her personality. No building of her character makes the match with Eve a little flat
- Punk running through the crowd .. why is the most dangerous person on the roster running through the crowd?
 
I wonder how exciting Ryback is for people who have no idea about Goldberg's run. I mean I'm sort of enjoying it and I watched Goldberg's run back in the 90s.
 

Jamie OD

Member
PG WWE:

A mother will do anything to protect her kid -- just ask former "Shark Tank" winner Shelly Ehler ... who's picking a fight with a 6'5", 239-pound WWE star after he made her 8-year-old cry.

Ehler -- who scored a $75k investment on "Tank" for her ShoNo towels -- has a serious beef with Alberto Del Rio ... who snatched her son's handmade sign during a WWE event in Anaheim, CA this weekend ... and RIPPED IT UP (or at least tried to).

In the video (above) Del Rio isn't quite strong enough to rip the sign in half (it is cardboard) ... so he takes off small, pathetic, chunks instead.

FYI -- it's standard practice for the wrestlers to interact with audience members "in character." In this case, the sign was pro-Sheamus ... the wrestling arch-nemesis of Del Rio.

But TMZ spoke to Shelly, who says her 8-year-old was terrified by the wrestler's actions and instantly burst into tears. She adds, "Del Rio is a bully. I looked at him and said 'he's crying' ... and he mocked him."

1008-shark-tank-article-1.jpg


Shelly -- who says her 8-year-old cried all the all way home -- vented her frustrations to the wrestler on Twitter and then fired off a an angry letter to the WWE.

In the letter she says, "Take signs from adults NOT KIDS! My son was bullied by your superstars and it is not okay."

Despite her demands, Shelly claims she's heard crickets from Del Rio -- but his manager tweeted her back and said, "lol blah blah blah."

FYI -- as soon as Shelly contacted Sheamus about the incident ... he immediately offered to send her son a signed photo and meet with him next time he's in town.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/09/wwe-al...#ixzz28nFncR53

:lol:

Oh boy, this reminds me of an incident that happened at a local wrestling show in Ireland a few years ago. The heel made a kid cry so the next day his parents rang into a national radio call in show to complain about it. The wrestler was interviewed and even though he explained he is the pantomime bad guy and supposed to do mean things, the show was bombarded with calls from old people (the majority audience I might add) saying how disgraceful it was and he went too far.

So a wrestler making a child cry became national news for a day or two. I repeat, THE STORY OF A WRESTLER MAKING A CHILD CRY DURING THE SHOW BECAME NATIONAL NEWS!
 
Looks like a bunch of people in that crowd needed to get punched. Those guys by the camera are hilarious they watch th fan get punched and they go back to cheering because they are on tv.

also lol at that del rio story
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Best part of RAW (other than JBL's commentary) was Punk screaming "WHAT A MANOEUVRE!" in Vince's face.

Yeah, that was particularly awesome.

Though the best part to me was Daniel Bryan quitely going "I slept under one bridge, that's not a crime" to Larry King's wife. That got me good.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
- Where is Ambrose? It's obvious that fans are getting tired of stale characters. Chop the roster and get new blood in there....

Missed this one, but isn't that what they've been doing. Sandow, Ryback, Cesaro, renewed push of the tag-division, the divas getting more time. Can't really deny they've been working quite a bit on getting more of their talent over instead of just the few main event guys.

Of course the majority of the time is still on the main event characters, but that has been this way for decades and is why people tune in.

Ambrose does not debut because they have nothing to do for him right now, with them pushing the guys I mentioned above I can see why Triple H would keep him off TV deliberately right now to make sure he doesn't get pushed into the background.

They should have him on TV on NXT in the meantime though, I'll give you that.

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Hm, this is surprising:
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Rigged?
 

krae_man

Member
Yeah a guy in a Lenar shirt appears to push Punk twice and then the bald guy with the glasses hits him in the back of the head on accident. Just a bad situation all around. I guarantee they will ban guys going into the audience now. With that said, the guy in the Lesnar shirt deserved to get his ass knocked out

Yeah, it looks like someone pushed glasses guy and he just lost his balance and accidentally bumped Punk and got an elbow to the face plus more for his troubles.

Hm, this is surprising:
clipboard01yw.jpg

Rigged?

Clearly, there's an odd numbeer of votes, how can it be tied?
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Rewatching the Punk/Vince parts of Raw again.

Those two together are gold.

GOLD.

The crowd was thunderous for the main event as well, I haven't heard 'em that loud for a long time.

Vince was very well overall, his backstage stuff with JR and Heyman was great as well.

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Can we talk Cena for a second btw? Because God he was awful last night in the opening promo. And what was up with him randomly asking AJ out? Was I missing some US inside joke about that burger joint (in and out or something)?
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
The likes of RAW:

- Ryback did not Shellshock Punk. No need to. Have people pay to see it
- Punk's feud with Vince and eventual feud with Austin (planting seeds now)
- Ryback in the mix for Hell in the Cell. WWE has a contingency if Cena can't perform. If Ryback is in the match, I will buy. If anything .. I want to see him go for more than 10 minutes. It's still probably going to be Cena since I don't see Punk going over Ryback this early
- Antonio Cesaro .. money. He needs a legit feud
- Good to keep the Prime Time Players chasing .. they looked good in the lose. It will make their eventual win all the more important
- Punk and Bryan are just awesome together. That line by Kane calling Larry King Skeletor made me spit up my water. Speaking of which, I though Larry King was a good sport about it .. I smell Kofi push!
- seems AJ is being dialed back .. I think that's a good thing. No need for over exposure


The dislikes of RAW:

- Where is Ambrose? It's obvious that fans are getting tired of stale characters. Chop the roster and get new blood in there....
- So what's the state of the WWE Vince?
- Seems Kaitlyn can wrestle .. but what's her personality. No building of her character makes the match with Eve a little flat
- Punk running through the crowd .. why is the most dangerous person on the roster running through the crowd?


> Complains about stale characters

> Wants Dean Amborse to debut


HUH?
 

Kyoufu

Member
Can we talk Cena for a second btw? Because God he was awful last night in the opening promo. And what was up with him randomly asking AJ out? Was I missing some US inside joke about that burger joint (in and out or something)?

Now that he's divorced he can legitimately bang Divas with no remorse.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAniQ0L2S3U&sns=tw

Has this video been posted? By far the best view we'll get.

Punk looks very agitated to begin with. WWE fucked up by not having like 2-3 security guards with him when he did this. He was pushing people away as it was. The guy he hit, it's hard to tell if he got pushed into Punk just from the mob around him or if he did it intentionally. The way he does it, it looks unintentional. When he goes to put his sunglasses on, 1) I'm not sure why you would do that right then and there, 2) The way he extends his arms in that setting is fucking DUMB and he accidentally(?) hits Punk from behind which causes Punk to clock him.
 
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