Sweeney Tom
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And the other is going to murder Sami Zayn on a preshow
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And the other is going to murder Sami Zayn on a preshow
The Smackdown roster is extremely thin, and AJ is great at making comedy work. A mini filler feud is fine.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think Zayn will be relegated to the pre-show, but I simply can't fathom how its possible that even one of the best wrestlers in the entire world could carry Brawn Strongman to a safe, good match.
There isn't even a PPV for SD until Survivor Series. They have to dawdle just to fill up time. It's fine and better than AJ getting hit with exploding slime briefcases.
I want to see Sami give Bruan a Blue Thunder Bomb.
I don't disagree with most. But some people actual hunt to like...eat the animal.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Sasha thread does make me question how the hell they intend to keep momentum for the women's division up given how ridiculously thin the roster is in NXT.
Those Two Australian Girls aren't particularly good, Liv Morgan is Carmella but somehow worse, and Asuka, Nikki Cross and Ember Moon aren't likely to get called up any time soon.
Raw can always insert Bayley into the picture to keep it going for a while (and Survivor Series obviously won't have any other women's matches other than the traditional tag), but at some point there has to be a legitimate challenger for Becky, and I just can't envision them putting Alexa over their most popular female star in her first defense.
Those Two Australian Girls aren't particularly good, Liv Morgan is Carmella but somehow worse, and Asuka, Nikki Cross and Ember Moon aren't likely to get called up any time soon.
Raw can always insert Bayley into the picture to keep it going for a while (and Survivor Series obviously won't have any other women's matches other than the traditional tag), but at some point there has to be a legitimate challenger for Becky, and I just can't envision them putting Alexa over their most popular female star in her first defense.
Sure, but they are in the minority. Most people in the US hunt solely for sport.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
Braun vs Zayn could legit be MOTN.
Based off how Zayn sells offense and the ability to be the "oh shit he might actually do it" guy that he's so good at being.
And Braun should win.
Based off how Zayn sells offense and the ability to be the "oh shit he might actually do it" guy that he's so good at being.
And Braun should win.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
They could have James beat Asuka and send her up, and sign James to a short term contract. It's believable for her to beat Asuka, and a hell of a lot more believable for James to be beaten then Asuka. Asuka -> James -> Moon would work moving the title, freeing up Asuka to go to smackdown.
I don't know that Asuka should go to smackdown though, she only has two believable matches there (nattie, becky), while she has four on raw (Sasha, Charlotte, Bayley rematch, Nia).
Sweeney Tom
Banned
https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/788419400869220353 Good Guy Goldberg
bu bu bu but he got into a fight with jericho!
Brawn shouldn't beat a guy like Sami.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Yeah, I listened to that, Meltz said Goldberg did a ton of charity stuff and kept it super quiet, and said bill was a great guy.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yep, Meltzer said on WOR that Goldberg has always been a good guy who cares about kids and stuff like that and that he has a lot of stories about Bill doing charity work and stuff for kids on the side, but that he didn't mention it because if Bill wasn't mentioning it, then he didn't want it out there.
I feel like the Balor injury ended up hurting Sami because Owens immediately got the headlining spot and immediately had to eat a pin to justify Owens' being the champ despite losing to Zayn the month prior, which then relegated Zayn to the Ziggler spot.
Goldberg comes off as a fantastic human being.
Only if you're Evan Karaigis.
He supposedly had an ego back in the day but that was a long, long time ago. He also put over the cruiserweights and Jericho specifically many times during his interviews. It's why I always think it's funny people praise Regal for his 'shooting' on Goldberg because to me it just makes Regal look like an unprofessional dickhead taking it out on someone who had nothing to do with him not getting treated the way he wanted.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I honestly don't know if, even in a brand split era, Zayn will ever get over enough to be more than a minor title guy. He's a great wrestler, but he's known to be prickly when working with others and unlike Owens, he doesn't really exude a type of charisma.
Owens is just the kind of guy where he walks out on stage and you know what his character is and what would be consistent with him. Not everyone can do that.
Owens is just the kind of guy where he walks out on stage and you know what his character is and what would be consistent with him. Not everyone can do that.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I think he used to take things in the business a bit too seriously, at least that's the impression I got from the jezza autobiography. Could of just been Jericho blowing smoke though
I don't think I would blame Goldberg for taking the business a little too seriously when he was younger. He was pushed through the moon when he was still green and probably had a lot of people in his ear talking about how they needed to beat WWF in ratings and all that shit, plus people probably warning him about backstage politics and shit.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
That's what we're talking about lol
I'm worried he's a bit too awkward in how he moves. Also, he's never stopped looking green as hell.
Eh, I'm not seeing it.
I beg to differ. He looks more confident every week it seems and his moveset has really grown since they started the jobber matches. He's still green, but he's at the point he needs someone to actually compete with rather than toss around.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I see a King Kong Bundy or an Earthquake/Typhoon in Strowman.
Goldberg not so much.
Goldberg not so much.
Bluekaveli
Member
Time for the greatest match of all time, Warrior vs some bum at wm 12
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem is that whatever his potential is, he needed more time learning to wrestle and they straight up skipped the part where he wrestles in developmental.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
The way the Goldberg character was handled last night was really well done I must say.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
If you forget the Wyatt Family run, he's essentially getting his NXT run now. It's just on Raw. He just spent the last 3 months destroying jobbers, just like they do with any big man in NXT.
slightconfuse
Banned
ill take everything back if this match is anywhere in the ballpark of Taka vs Triple H
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I-iUL2IBn4
In an off way you can see why he never came back to wrestling.
Say what you want about MMA but there is an honesty and respect to it. Ultimately you have to prove your worth and there is a level of respect. I think that's why Goldberg moved over to cover that instead of being like Kevin Nash making 8 k to work a small indie.
Now wrestling is a script heavy soap opera so people like the McMahons can claim all the credit. When people watch NJPW nobody comes away talking about Goto , they talk about the stars. And Goldberg is whatever his faults a star because he was himself and he had an identity.
Meanwhile Vince is scripting Reigns like a teletubby and thinking that Cesaro needs a Facebook live gimmick to get over.
Just because the results of the contest May be fake doesn't and the impact of moves isn't meant to main doesn't mean that the people in the ring have to be fake and scripted.
Last night was proof of that and you can tell it was also something they didn't really want to do.
Maybe part of the problem is nobody wants to be a tough guy or a fighter, they want to be entertainers.
I loved Taka as a kid, I marked out like fucking crazy during this match.
this was like the only entertaining thing that Bork did in 2016
That's quite possibly the biggest mistake they can make with any younger wrestler, no matter how big he is. Strowman wasn't ready for that spot.
Most humans aren't prepared for Brock Lesnar shooting on them.
slightconfuse
Banned
Sibersk Esto
Banned
ooo Jesse Ventura is on Austin's podcast
The Big Dawg is going to use it 5 times.