Professor Beef
Banned
You bring up a good point. I probably wouldn't buy his shirt either since I'd have to explain it, and therefore reveal that I'm wearing a wrestling shirt in 2016.
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October Wrasslin' |OT| Dia de los Mil Muertes
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You bring up a good point. I probably wouldn't buy his shirt either since I'd have to explain it, and therefore reveal that I'm wearing a wrestling shirt in 2016.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Take your nostalgia goggles off, it sucks.
I'll be back for Survival Series, friend Cagey. It's going to be hype. We are blessed that we're going to get... one more time... once again... another Road to Redemption for Roman Reigns at Wrasslin'Mania.
It's like the holiday season is extended for three months.
Every year.
Let's hope that once Roman is done with Barack at Wrasslin'Mania 33, we can look forward to his fourth Road to Redemption at Wrasslin'Mania 34 against Joan Cena.
This card leaves Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens as a possibility for the Universal Championship.
It will be Jericho vs Owens.
Zayn is going to face Braun at Mania and lose. It's either that or he'll lose to Braun before Mania and then be thrown into the pre-show in a random match without any story.
They hate Sami.
slightconfuse
Banned
OMG DICK TOGO AND RICCOCET TAG TEAM
Brian_FETO
Banned
They were impressive in NXT and had good matches
The problem with them on the main roster (and it's not just with them) is that they are brought up with this hype from the program like "WOW! look at these guys! WOW! these guys are great!" without them really getting to show why. Same thing happened when Apollo Crews came up. "WOW! HE'S GOT MEGASTAR WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM! WOW". Putting on boring matches with boring opponents cycling through the same spots before you inevitably win the same way isn't that exciting
One could argue the same thing even happened when AJ was first brought in, with the dumb Jericho story hellbent on getting him over (ending with him losing at WM, lol)
I feel like the agents are the big difference between NXT and the main roster. They put together better matches on NXT, everyone has. Then when they go to Raw they lose the storytelling and ring psychology that made them great. Just look at Sasha Banks from NXT to the main roster.
Why were they impressive back in NXT? I'm asking about both Apollo and AA.
Did they cut great promos or had matches with personality(You know, good matches with a twist)? I want to see more of them, so recommendations would be really appreciated.
slightconfuse
Banned
It comes down to exposure. People in NXT wrestle once a month on tv and the story lines are good
On the main roster you have to wrestle 10 minute matches on tv each week and you just become another wrestler
On the main roster you have to wrestle 10 minute matches on tv each week and you just become another wrestler
FlammableD
Banned
Yup, that'll do.
Also announced :
Brian_FETO
Banned
Oh, I didn't mean Apollo was great in NXT. I just meant they bring them in and tell you how amazing they are when they aren't showing it
Their matches around the time of Dallas Takeover were great. Pretty much any time they were with The Revival was awesome but I started watching NXT early this year and thoroughly enjoyed them every time they were on. Since they came to Smackdown I've pretty much just fastforwarded through every time
American Alpha had some funny promos like they were just dumb jocks who thought they were clever but weren't, but nothing really standout.
I mean shit they were brought into Smackdown with the storyline "yep they are the best and way better than all of the other teams here. So all the other teams hate them"
Their gimmick is that "they're the best" but they haven't done shit on the main roster.
The problem is that being a good wrestler is not enough, really. You can have a move set with 100 moves, you can be a power house and a high flyer all at once, if you don't actually show personality, it doesn't work. At least not in the WWE.
I see something in AA, I think they have potential to be great after a shake up, but Apollo... Honestly, I don't see anything there other than a guy who looks good and is able to do moves. His expressions, the way he behaves during matches, the way he panders to the crowd as a baby face, etc, it's not organic nor entertaining.
I know people hate Corbin, but, still, I'll use him as a comparison. See the way he behaves and the look on his face and you know he's an asshole, you know he doesn't care and you know he doesn't respect his opponents. He's not great in ring and not even in delivering promos, but those positives alone are enough to make me want to see him way more than I want to see AA, Crews and even Neville.
I see something in AA, I think they have potential to be great after a shake up, but Apollo... Honestly, I don't see anything there other than a guy who looks good and is able to do moves. His expressions, the way he behaves during matches, the way he panders to the crowd as a baby face, etc, it's not organic nor entertaining.
I know people hate Corbin, but, still, I'll use him as a comparison. See the way he behaves and the look on his face and you know he's an asshole, you know he doesn't care and you know he doesn't respect his opponents. He's not great in ring and not even in delivering promos, but those positives alone are enough to make me want to see him way more than I want to see AA, Crews and even Neville.
That's the thing that a lot of people willfully ignore about WWE - you can be a good WRESTLER. You can become a good WRESTLER. You can learn to be a WRESTLER. You can even fake being a WRESTLER if you really have to. But without charisma or the "it factor", you'll never be a good ENTERTAINER, which is what is desired and expected of those at that level.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Totally. I liked Corbin even in NXT. Someone like him fills a spot the others don't. But even with him, he came in to the main roster as this big dominant guy and then did nothing
I think AA just needs an actual feud to allow their characters to progress. Give them something to be passionate about because "we show up, smile, and suplex people" is boring
Apollo....I don't even know. His character is "athleticism", but not in a fun way like Shelton or Angle. At least AA have the hot tag/partner angle to work with, despite having similar issues
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Yup. Revival is deceptively good. They do their jobs so well you almost forget they did anything at all. They just make whoever they are up against look like a million bucks.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
They've given them no time to talk. You can't just have people care when they are saying nothing and just wrestling.
shanafan
Member
In all fairness, he did win the Andre the Giant battle royal at Wrestlemania
which put him with prior winners like the Big Show.
Dthomp
Member
Brian_FETO
Banned
But then he came in and like killed Ziggler on Raw (I think getting counted out or something)
Followed by a long feud where Dolph started winning. Then like....nothing
I'll be honest, his intro song, the dabbing, his outfit and such made me cringe the first time I saw him. I thought I'd get used to it, but so far it still has the same effect on me. It feels like a dad trying to appeal to his teenager son/daughter by copying internet memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAICmFFjPOc
This video explains it.
Lake Effect Kid
Banned
T
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But my real three:
Sasha
Dean
Rollins
I hate TJP. Don't get me wrong. But he doesn't get nearly enough TV time for me to not even care. The three I listed have genuinely just stopped being interesting or even good.
Same. I legit cringed at the entrance and even more when he dabbed. The dab especially, like.. way to date yourself super fucking hard. Surprised he doesn't dress like this;
J
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But my real three:
Sasha
Dean
Rollins
I hate TJP. Don't get me wrong. But he doesn't get nearly enough TV time for me to not even care. The three I listed have genuinely just stopped being interesting or even good.
Same. I legit cringed at the entrance and even more when he dabbed. The dab especially, like.. way to date yourself super fucking hard. Surprised he doesn't dress like this;
Professor Beef
Banned
Friends, The Faculty is still a FnP movie.
Brian_FETO
Banned
The only people I would say I "don't care for" are those who make me actively change the channel when they're on. With that criteria:
Titus
Swagger
Golden Truth (in ring)
Titus
Swagger
Golden Truth (in ring)
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Roman reigns
Dean ambrose
Seth rollins
Wwf took a great thing and through godawful booking has manage to make them all
Sierra Uniform Charlie Kilo
Dean ambrose
Seth rollins
Wwf took a great thing and through godawful booking has manage to make them all
Sierra Uniform Charlie Kilo
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Dolph Ziggler
TJP
Rusev
I feel like with Rusev I am just missing something as beloved as he is. Just seems like a played out gimmick to me.
TJP
Rusev
I feel like with Rusev I am just missing something as beloved as he is. Just seems like a played out gimmick to me.
I'm sure they would have loved Ibushi or ZSJ but they wouldn't sign. So you go with the next best thing.
Which should have been Swann but we all know why he's not the face of the division.
Lake Effect Kid
Banned
Just bough the Dark Souls 3 DLC, friends. I realize it's short, but I'm a big lore nut and a sucker for PvP. I can easily get 30 hours out of this.
I think Rusev is amazing, it's just his booking, honestly. Ruru is one of the few people on the current roster that still remains over in spite of how terrible they've been booked. And I'm guessing he and Lana are still being punished for their engagement, which is really shitty. But WWE gon' WWE. If anything they should be pushed for ruining that stupid fucking Ziggler shit.
Great look. Great in the ring. Amazing character and mannerisms. He just needs to get the hell out of this Roman feud and win the next few. He can definitely be build back up.
I think Rusev is amazing, it's just his booking, honestly. Ruru is one of the few people on the current roster that still remains over in spite of how terrible they've been booked. And I'm guessing he and Lana are still being punished for their engagement, which is really shitty. But WWE gon' WWE. If anything they should be pushed for ruining that stupid fucking Ziggler shit.
Great look. Great in the ring. Amazing character and mannerisms. He just needs to get the hell out of this Roman feud and win the next few. He can definitely be build back up.
Meh. Call up No Way Jose and let him and Swann run around in the Tag Division. Swann's too good to die with the Crusierweights.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
So you want him to die with the tag teams?
Bluekaveli
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
When is The Drifter coming to Smackdown?
Dick Justice
Banned
Why are you looking up and posting pictures of young boys, friend?T
J
P
But my real three:
Sasha
Dean
Rollins
I hate TJP. Don't get me wrong. But he doesn't get nearly enough TV time for me to not even care. The three I listed have genuinely just stopped being interesting or even good.
Same. I legit cringed at the entrance and even more when he dabbed. The dab especially, like.. way to date yourself super fucking hard. Surprised he doesn't dress like this;
At least he might get the occasional funny skit with The New Day out of that.
Sometimes, you gotta take what you can get.
While gaf exploded, I watched Jeff Hardy vs Jushin Liger from last month. Kind of crazy that this is the first time this match has ever happened. It's nothing amazing but it's acceptable. I like the spectacle of it though. The crowd is actually pretty split, and it's nice to see Jeff wrestle one of his idols without being smacked out of his mind.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Zach approved.
Lake Effect Kid
Banned
I'm only going to say this once, okay..? Don't you dare ever imply anything that involves myself or anyone else and pedophilia. It's not funny. Second of all, you're the one who's mind is going there, so you might want to seek help, "friend".
If HBK can't go anymore, we can always bring in RVD.
hmmmmm
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