Bluekaveli
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The way they presented Yokozuna in title matches made him so legit.
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Brian_FETO
Banned
Yeah, I just watched and I honestly like what she's going for. But especially when she stops the flow of the match like "oh hold on let me hit myself" it's too much
I could only see the biting thing working if she was getting beat and trying to hulk up or something, even then ehhh
They really knew how to build feuds in 1993/1994 WWF. Funny considering they are two of the worst years for business. RAW legitimately was taped at high school gyms some weeks.
Bluekaveli
Member
Talk shit all you want about 93-95 but the stories were well thought of even with the silly gimmicks.
Moose vs Lashley was pretty fun
but man there were some Full Sail-esque dummies in the crowd really trying to ruin it. I guess it's good to see moron manchildren expose their racism to others in television(by chanting 'which one's bobby' thankfully some of the other crowd started shutting them down)
but man there were some Full Sail-esque dummies in the crowd really trying to ruin it. I guess it's good to see moron manchildren expose their racism to others in television(by chanting 'which one's bobby' thankfully some of the other crowd started shutting them down)
sf2fanatic
Member
Holy sheeit at those gifs. Was the first one a botch?
JesseEwiak
Member
The thing was, compared to the past, the show was bad. It's just compared to now, there's still some sembelance of planning.
>WWE alive in 25 years
Oh, so wrestling will be like roller derby - something amateurs do in front of a few hundred people as kind of a lark? Because if the WWE collapses, New Japan or TNA or PROGRESS or Lucha Underground ain't replacing them. Wrestling will just slowly die.
And watching AJPW kind of got me thinking. This dude deserves to be in the discussion of GOAT just as much as your Brets or HBKs or Flairs or whatever.
+Legendary in Japan and Mexico. Arguably the biggest Japanese wrestling star in US history.
+Helped usher in the greatest era of junior heavyweight pro wrestling in Japan with Jushin Liger and Great Sasuke as the three pillars.
+Went to Mexico and became one of the most hated rudos in the country, having one of the best feuds of 90s lucha with Blue Panther as well as some of the most well regarded technical matches in lucha libre to this day.
+Went back to Mexico and become a huge icon. Still sells out shows in 2016 and fills arenas that CMLL has trouble filling.
+Trained the first generation of what would become the second biggest promotion in Japan(Dragon Gate)
+Is arguably the most influential wrestler for the modern era. He was one of the first wrestlers regularly on television in WCW, NJPW, CMLL and AAA that was mixing lucha libre and the Japanese junior heavyweight style which is the foundation of what Dragon Gate does now and what a massive amount of indie wrestlers do now.
+Legendary in Japan and Mexico. Arguably the biggest Japanese wrestling star in US history.
+Helped usher in the greatest era of junior heavyweight pro wrestling in Japan with Jushin Liger and Great Sasuke as the three pillars.
+Went to Mexico and became one of the most hated rudos in the country, having one of the best feuds of 90s lucha with Blue Panther as well as some of the most well regarded technical matches in lucha libre to this day.
+Went back to Mexico and become a huge icon. Still sells out shows in 2016 and fills arenas that CMLL has trouble filling.
+Trained the first generation of what would become the second biggest promotion in Japan(Dragon Gate)
+Is arguably the most influential wrestler for the modern era. He was one of the first wrestlers regularly on television in WCW, NJPW, CMLL and AAA that was mixing lucha libre and the Japanese junior heavyweight style which is the foundation of what Dragon Gate does now and what a massive amount of indie wrestlers do now.
Dead End Irony
Member
Whenever I think of Ultimo Dragon, I think of how Vince apparently soured on him early because he was expecting Ultimo Dragon to wrestle like Rey Mysterio 2.0. I remember thinking, 'maybe he meant to sign Dragon Kid and got mixed up?'
He's definitely one of the GOATs though. He can still get it done in the ring too.
He's definitely one of the GOATs though. He can still get it done in the ring too.
Reneledarker
Banned
Ultimo made people boo El Hijo del Santo in the Arena Mexico, you cannot be bigger than that in Mexico at that time.
Disagree Guy
Member
And watching AJPW kind of got me thinking. This dude deserves to be in the discussion of GOAT just as much as your Brets or HBKs or Flairs or whatever.
+Legendary in Japan and Mexico. Arguably the biggest Japanese wrestling star in US history.
+Helped usher in the greatest era of junior heavyweight pro wrestling in Japan with Jushin Liger and Great Sasuke as the three pillars.
+Went to Mexico and became one of the most hated rudos in the country, having one of the best feuds of 90s lucha with Blue Panther as well as some of the most well regarded technical matches in lucha libre to this day.
+Went back to Mexico and become a huge icon. Still sells out shows in 2016 and fills arenas that CMLL has trouble filling.
+Trained the first generation of what would become the second biggest promotion in Japan(Dragon Gate)
+Is arguably the most influential wrestler for the modern era. He was one of the first wrestlers regularly on television in WCW, NJPW, CMLL and AAA that was mixing lucha libre and the Japanese junior heavyweight style which is the foundation of what Dragon Gate does now and what a massive amount of indie wrestlers do now.
I massively rate this wrestler. Him and Tiger mask are some of my favourite masked wrestlers of all time.
Moose vs Lashley was pretty fun
but man there were some Full Sail-esque dummies in the crowd really trying to ruin it. I guess it's good to see moron manchildren expose their racism to others in television(by chanting 'which one's bobby' thankfully some of the other crowd started shutting them down)
How Lashley didn't end up drilling his head into the mat with that Spear I'll never know.
Disagree Guy
Member
Moose vs Lashley was pretty fun
If TNA survive the entirety of 2017 I'll be surprised.
Disagree Guy
Member
Sorry for the double post but I think you'll all forgive me when you see this......
Surely this isn't a fan made picture? AJ tweeted it........
I can't hold all this hype
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk...ke-royal-rumble-a-legit-sellout/#4301912332d1
Surely this isn't a fan made picture? AJ tweeted it........
I can't hold all this hype
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk...ke-royal-rumble-a-legit-sellout/#4301912332d1
And watching AJPW kind of got me thinking. This dude deserves to be in the discussion of GOAT just as much as your Brets or HBKs or Flairs or whatever.
Absolutely.
Ultimo is the man. Was pissed when his WWE run didn't pan out.
FlammableD
Banned
HA I thought the "I saw Wade Barrett outside the PROGRESS show" thing was a bit, it actually happened
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/danny-stone/wade-barrett_b_12377556.html
"Have you followed the British scene, what are your thoughts?"
"Ive spoken to a few British wrestling companies since I left WWE about possibly doing some stuff. Ive not agreed to do anything yet but its been good to sound them out and see whats going on out there. I know its a thriving scene right now. I started wrestling in the UK in 2004 prior to coming over to the US and it was a pretty sparse, barren scene. I was fortunate enough to get in with a guy called Brian Dixon who runs All-Star Wrestling. I did a lot of the holiday camps but he was really the only big promoter out there who was doing anything major. Now I look at whats going on and theres some pretty big companies out there - Preston City Wrestling, Progress, Insane Championship Wrestling (ICW), Five Star, RevPro. Theres quite a few big companies that do some exciting stuff. So Im definitely keeping my eye on whats going on. Theres a bunch of guys on the UK scene that Ive been impressed with and its amazing to see that the British scene has been thriving so well. Funnily enough I was out in Finsbury Park recently when I shot the movie. I had a Sunday off and thought where shall I go? Whats near here? And I saw that Camden Town wasnt far and I dont know London too well but thought it sounded great and I knew it from the Madness song. I was up late as it was a day off and got out at Camden, wandered down the street, its packed and then all of the sudden I saw this huge line of what must have been about 500 wrestling fans at the side of the street. I had no idea they were going to be there but subsequently found out they were queuing for the Progress show which was apparently in town that day. To my horror a couple of people yelled out Oh My God, theres Wade Barrett! So I quickly dived down some side street and sprinted away before I got mobbed but that was a bit of a surprise! But Im glad theyre doing great business and its important that the wrestlers in the UK get the opportunity to perform in front of big and passionate crowds and fan bases that werent there when I was coming up on the UK indie scene. Hopefully through that some people will get opportunities to come out to the States and work with some of the big companies out here and work in Japan with New Japan out there."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/danny-stone/wade-barrett_b_12377556.html
"Have you followed the British scene, what are your thoughts?"
"Ive spoken to a few British wrestling companies since I left WWE about possibly doing some stuff. Ive not agreed to do anything yet but its been good to sound them out and see whats going on out there. I know its a thriving scene right now. I started wrestling in the UK in 2004 prior to coming over to the US and it was a pretty sparse, barren scene. I was fortunate enough to get in with a guy called Brian Dixon who runs All-Star Wrestling. I did a lot of the holiday camps but he was really the only big promoter out there who was doing anything major. Now I look at whats going on and theres some pretty big companies out there - Preston City Wrestling, Progress, Insane Championship Wrestling (ICW), Five Star, RevPro. Theres quite a few big companies that do some exciting stuff. So Im definitely keeping my eye on whats going on. Theres a bunch of guys on the UK scene that Ive been impressed with and its amazing to see that the British scene has been thriving so well. Funnily enough I was out in Finsbury Park recently when I shot the movie. I had a Sunday off and thought where shall I go? Whats near here? And I saw that Camden Town wasnt far and I dont know London too well but thought it sounded great and I knew it from the Madness song. I was up late as it was a day off and got out at Camden, wandered down the street, its packed and then all of the sudden I saw this huge line of what must have been about 500 wrestling fans at the side of the street. I had no idea they were going to be there but subsequently found out they were queuing for the Progress show which was apparently in town that day. To my horror a couple of people yelled out Oh My God, theres Wade Barrett! So I quickly dived down some side street and sprinted away before I got mobbed but that was a bit of a surprise! But Im glad theyre doing great business and its important that the wrestlers in the UK get the opportunity to perform in front of big and passionate crowds and fan bases that werent there when I was coming up on the UK indie scene. Hopefully through that some people will get opportunities to come out to the States and work with some of the big companies out here and work in Japan with New Japan out there."
Disagree Guy
Member
This has literally been said zero times in history
Lake Effect Kid
Banned
I mean, if he's chillin' outside of a wrestling show, chances are someone will recognize him. Usually it'd be "Who's that Lurch lookin' mother fucker?"
He was just frightened that he would pop his shoulder shaking hands with the fans
Disagree Guy
Member
You win
Lake Effect Kid
Banned
To be fair though, anyone would recognize a member of the
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Replace kendrick with TJ Perkins and that would be my list.
I dont see the hype for sasha banks.
Bayley is too soft. Never liked tjp from the beginnig, probably never will.
Disagree Guy
Member
Three wrestlers I care for the least right now
James Ellsworth
Dean Ambrose
The New Day
Don't get me wrong - the list is huge... but these three spring to mind first
Disagree Guy
Member
I think it's more just that I find alot of modern wrestlers boring compared to wrestlers from the 90's
Personal taste I guess
FlammableD
Banned
2016 graps is top
love the graps
really antsy for the last progress show to go up now
love the graps
really antsy for the last progress show to go up now
Brian_FETO
Banned
It's hard to not be sympathetic when even people you like are being used in terrible/boring ways a lot of the time
I don't really expect people to shine when they're given garbage opportunities. There's just people who are harder to watch than others, where you watch and you can't see any way they would be interesting even if they had something else going
Disagree Guy
Member
1) Charlotte
2) Prince Puma
3) Seth Rollins
4) AJ Styles
5) Samoa Joe
6) Brock Lesnar
7) TJ Perkins
Sir_Crocodile
Member
1) AJ Styles
2) Kenny Omega
3) The Miz
4) Kazuchika Okada
5) Jericho
6) Tetsuya Naito
7) Zack Sabre Jr
8) Volador Jr
9) The Revival
10) Asuka
Naito should be higher, but I'm not a huge fan of how been booked since Dominion. I love Omega but I kinda feel Naito should have been going to WK. :/
I need to start watching ROH again, I hear PBK have been amazing against War Machine.
I don't think there's been this many talented wrestlers out there since the monday night wars.
2) Kenny Omega
3) The Miz
4) Kazuchika Okada
5) Jericho
6) Tetsuya Naito
7) Zack Sabre Jr
8) Volador Jr
9) The Revival
10) Asuka
Naito should be higher, but I'm not a huge fan of how been booked since Dominion. I love Omega but I kinda feel Naito should have been going to WK. :/
I need to start watching ROH again, I hear PBK have been amazing against War Machine.
I don't think there's been this many talented wrestlers out there since the monday night wars.
Pardon my pleb WWE only list : The Miz, AJ, Charlotte, Cena, Ambrose, Asuka, DIY, Slater and Rhyno, AA, Owens, Jericho, Zayn, Rusev, Rollins
Disagree Guy
Member
I'm sure you've done it plenty of times but lets all discuss out favourite matches and why.
This doesnt necessarily mean 'best matches' ever... just ones that are your guilty pleasure for re-watching over and over
Tajiri Vs Super Crazy(Pick any match from ECW feud)
The fast pace of these matches was incredible. Joey Styles had trouble just calling it. A real exciting pleasure to watch
Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair (Clash of Champs 6) 2 out of three falls
It's an hour long. Most people don't realise that. What an incredible piece of wrestling. Arguably the best ever.
Bret Hart Vs Austin (WM13)
Arguably the match of each of these two's career. Seminal in the timeline of Stone Cold becoming what he was and therefore shaping the course of wrestling history.
HBK VS Undertaker 2 (Retirement match)
The most perfect wrestling match I've ever seen. It's a shame the outcome is memorable because we all know taker only lost once but watching it live was a spectacle
This doesnt necessarily mean 'best matches' ever... just ones that are your guilty pleasure for re-watching over and over
Tajiri Vs Super Crazy(Pick any match from ECW feud)
The fast pace of these matches was incredible. Joey Styles had trouble just calling it. A real exciting pleasure to watch
Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair (Clash of Champs 6) 2 out of three falls
It's an hour long. Most people don't realise that. What an incredible piece of wrestling. Arguably the best ever.
Bret Hart Vs Austin (WM13)
Arguably the match of each of these two's career. Seminal in the timeline of Stone Cold becoming what he was and therefore shaping the course of wrestling history.
HBK VS Undertaker 2 (Retirement match)
The most perfect wrestling match I've ever seen. It's a shame the outcome is memorable because we all know taker only lost once but watching it live was a spectacle
1) AJ Styles
2) Broken Matt Hardy
3) Kevin Owens
4) Chris Jericho
5) Charlotte
6) Sasha Banks
7) The Miz
8) Asuka
9) The New Day
10) Heath Slater
11) Shinsuke Nakamura
12) Samoa Joe
13) Rich Swann
14) Booby Roode
15) Tye Dillenger
Bluekaveli
Member
Ring ding dong
Keep your heads ringing
Keep your heads ringing
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Five matches I enjoy the most are probably
Shawn VS Taker - Badd Blood 97
Bret VS Austin - Survivor Series 96
Bret VS Austin - Wrestlemania 13
Austin VS Dude Love - Over the Edge 98
Just such great builds and storytelling in the above.
The worst match I love is probably Shawn VS Vince at Wrestlemania 22. Shawn just DESTROYS vince which is hilarious, and JR is egging him on. Amazing stuff:
"Hit him harder shawn"
"the black heart"
"if he has a heart, I swear to god it's black"
"hit him over the head with it....then shove up his ass" (A giant picture of mcmahon from a magazine)
Shawn VS Taker - Badd Blood 97
Bret VS Austin - Survivor Series 96
Bret VS Austin - Wrestlemania 13
Austin VS Dude Love - Over the Edge 98
Just such great builds and storytelling in the above.
The worst match I love is probably Shawn VS Vince at Wrestlemania 22. Shawn just DESTROYS vince which is hilarious, and JR is egging him on. Amazing stuff:
"Hit him harder shawn"
"the black heart"
"if he has a heart, I swear to god it's black"
"hit him over the head with it....then shove up his ass" (A giant picture of mcmahon from a magazine)
avengers23
Banned
"Oh my God, that's Wade Barrett, and he's blown out his shoulder again, that glass-bones motherfucker."
"Oh my God, that's Wade Barrett, and he got punted in the balls by The Game, The Cerebral Assassin, The King of Kings again."
Bluekaveli
Member
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Whoops
I wrote that, thought it looked wrong and figured I'd check after I wrote all the JR quotes out, but I had so much fun remembering them I forgot lol
I think he had severe problems at 17, he was supposed to be involved in the main event program but was high in the shows leading up to it or somesuch
Sweeney Tom
Banned
https://twitter.com/glasgowkjh/status/789352410573631488 Mahoney had CTE
Bluekaveli
Member
Yep, he had signed a new contract and was supposed to fight Hunter but he was still fucked. This is when he made his turn around. Imagine that match though if he wasn't showing himself in those meetings. A pilled up hbk one last time. But it all worked out for the better.
Disagree Guy
Member
Literally laughed out loud reading that in JR's voice. I remember that vividly. Good choices too haha.
The worst match I love is that hardcore title battle royal from like WM18 or something where the title changed hands like 30 times. It's just so much fun.