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[Sephzilla]

Speaking of arm wrestling contests

Since I don't remember this, I'm guessing #VinceLogic said that John Cena beat Mark Henry, a man who legitimately has a claim to the title Worlds Strongest Man, in an arm wrestling contest.

Spoiler

If you told me this happened on MLK day I wouldn't be surprised either.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Spoiler

i was very proud of this on twitter and no-one saw it

Hahaha okay this made me laugh.

 

[FallingEdge]

Adam Cole is fat.

Still legit but fat.

 

[slightconfuse]

Adam Cole is great

Contract sigings need to go away

 

[Tagyhag]

Since I don't remember this, I'm guessing #VinceLogic said that John Cena beat Mark Henry, a man who legitimately has a claim to the title Worlds Strongest Man, in an arm wrestling contest.

Spoiler

If you told me this happened on MLK day I wouldn't be surprised either.

He didn't beat him, but he was about to.

Man I'm glad I didn't watch wrestling from 2006-2013.

It seemed like a complete shit show.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

As annoying as Perkins' gimmick is, it's the most money gimmick ever so WWE is probably creaming over him.

 

[Heroman]

As annoying as Perkins' gimmick is, it's the most money gimmick ever so WWE is probably creaming over him.

What?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

What?

Compared to the other Cruiserweights 'guy who dabs and likes video games with a unique entrance centered around that' is better then most of them.

 

[Hasney]

Big Momma Pump

Maybe she'll be entertaining in TNA after shitty WWE segments then.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Maybe she'll be entertaining in TNA after shitty WWE segments then.

How?

 

[Hasney]

Compared to the other Cruiserweights 'guy who dabs and likes video games with a unique entrance centered around that' is better then most of them.

How?

Dana Brooke math?

 

[Heroman]

Now that's a star.
It's to bad that you know he is ......well you know.

 

[Hasney]

Still trying to work out "If your Dady's gone, But your Mama's home, We can bring her, We ain't got now shame" is supposed to mean.

 

[klonere]

Now that's a star.
It's to bad that you know he is ......well you know.

...short, right?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I mean, I like him, but have you seen the success of 'guy who dances' gimmicks?

 

[Heroman]

I mean, I like him, but have you seen the success of 'guy who dances' gimmicks?

It's about equal with the guy who like video games.

 

[Hasney]

I mean, I like him, but have you seen the success of 'guy who dances' gimmicks?

Usually more success than the "has no charisma but dabs. Also video games." TJ Perkins gimmick. Think Swann has the advantage because it comes naturally to him rather than being saddled with the gimmick. A quick groove mid-match can be as good as a Spin-A-Roonie.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Still a missed opportunity to not make TJP be basically a better version of Kung Fury.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Usually more success than the "has no charisma but dabs. Also video games." TJ Perkins gimmick. Think Swann has the advantage because it comes naturally to him rather than being saddled with the gimmick. A quick groove mid-match can be as good as a Spin-A-Roonie.

? TJP has stated himself the gimmick was his own idea. Dabbing has always been his thing and he said that he worked with creative to help develop the gimmick.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

Started listening to the second part of the Austin-Jesse Ventura podcast. Jesse emphatically stated "babyfaces couldn't create." Such a goddamn true statement. None of the current faces are doing anything interesting.

 

[Hasney]

? TJP has stated himself the gimmick was his own idea. Dabbing has always been his thing and he said that he worked with creative to help develop the gimmick.

Oh no, I'm not saying the TJP gimmick was forced on him, I meant Rich Swann compared to other dancers like Brodus Clay. I just think TJPs gimmick is pretty bad in general, which is a shame, because I dig him.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Went back to see what Gaf's reactions to the Shield's debut was like and y'all were fucking hot for Ambrose. Everyone was losing it over him. Confirming that FCW Ambrose is best Ambrose.

Those were the days where people had been hyping "dean ambrose week" ever since his twitter feud with Foley that went nowhere.

Remember that first time The Shield and the Wyatts had a showdown and it was the coolest thing?

That one time WWE were completely on point, with two factions none the less.

Big R is how you book a monster and not have to send him straight to the main event

I don't know who this is but I respect that chokeslam, reminds me of when Show's used to actually be good.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Oh no, I'm not saying the TJP gimmick was forced on him, I meant Rich Swann compared to other dancers like Brodus Clay. I just think TJPs gimmick is pretty bad in general, which is a shame, because I dig him.

Ah, right. I don't think Swann has a dancing gimmick, it's just right now, the only thing that's been shown to be noticeable on the main roster is the fact he dances.

The roster is still new all around, everyone needs to find their footing. Kendrick, as the aged veteran, is the only one with some character grounding. TJP seems like a safe start, his gimmick is the type that can entertain kids and as he himself has said, he wants to be an inspiration for Filipino people which WWE probably have thought about as well to attract some of that audience.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Swann and Cedric Alexander could both be doing much better if creative didn't just box them in to this place where they have an entire division without meaningful characters or feuds. Like, the only guy on the Cruiserweight division with anything happening character-wise is Brian Kendrick, who, while I like, he's how old now?

The way Raw treats the Cruiserweights is the way they treated the Divas division for years and how they handle every woman that's not Charlotte or Sasha now. There's nothing meaningful happening and then they expect us to care about these samey, boring matches.

 

[Sephzilla]

I don't know who this is but I respect that chokeslam, reminds me of when Show's used to actually be good.

Big Shows chokeslam never looked good. Kane had a better chokeslam

 

[Data West]

Shoot: No one over the age of 40 should ever be world champion

No one under the age of 35 should be world champion

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Dat X-Pac sell tho.

Edit: I hate the inverted color of the original outfit suit Kane wore when he came back in 2000.

 

[Hasney]

I kinda hope the No Way Jose/Swann tag team sticks together. Help him out of the cruiserweight division and I've been digging them in NXT.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

No one under the age of 35 should be world champion

BUT DA DEMON KING

He's 35 but people act like he's 25 because he's from NXT! He's still a kid, goddammit!

 

[Nocturnowl]

Big Shows chokeslam never looked good. Kane had a better chokeslam

There's a chance I'm letting the AKI N64 era animation of the Showstopper cloud my judgement.

Man, Kane's chokeslam must be the most nerfed evergreen finisher in WWE history.
With maybe the Walls of Jericho coming close.

 

[Lake Effect Kid]

BUT DA DEMON KING

He's 35 but people act like he's 25 because he's from NXT! He's still a kid, goddammit!

One of the reasons why I don't like the idea of Joe beating Brock. People keep bringing that up, but Joe is nearly 40. What good is being the one to fell the beast when you likely don't have the time to make the most of it..? Use it to push the younger gen. If you didn't use Taker's streak to put someone new over (Brock sure as hell didnt need it), then at least give Brock to someone in their late 20s/early 30s. That way you're most likely guaranteed 10+ years.

I can't see them going back to Rock/Austin tenures as the top guy, especially if they keep trying to push Roman for Cena's position at the top. Looking for another 10+ year guy to put the company on their back.

 

[Data West]

The Finn Balor experience

 

[Hasney]

The Finn Balor experience

He can be as good as Angle?

 

[Lake Effect Kid]

Also, I hate the height argument. But Finn is really tiny. Great look, just really..small. Not even in an intimidating stocky way.

 

[Sanjuro]

Crossover is happening!

 

[Lake Effect Kid]

Crossover is happening!

That reminded me that Sheamus was in the new Ninja Turtles, and I went to check when that was coming out. Holy fuck, that movie came and went, huh? The first was everywhere, nobody seems to have cared about this one.

 

[Mahonay]

That reminded me that Sheamus was in the new Ninja Turtles, and I went to check when that was coming out. Holy fuck, that movie came and went, huh? The first was everywhere, nobody seems to have cared about this one.

They are bad cash-in movies.

 

[Sanjuro]

They are bad cash-in movies.

Lies.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I don't think the whole "big win permanently putting over young guy" angle really works these days.
With inconsistent arse WWE booking and a general lack of charisma with newer talent I don't think the big win approach can set anyone up for life.

 

[Lake Effect Kid]

They are bad cash-in movies.

Still made 100Mil over it's budget. But apparently 50% less than the first film.

I don't think the whole "big win permanently putting over young guy" angle really works these days.
With inconsistent arse WWE booking and a general lack of charisma with newer talent I don't think the big win approach can set anyone up for life.

It doesn't put him over permanently. It's a huge risk, because you're strapping a rocket on their back and hoping it pays off. Because if it doesn't, you wasted a huge moment on a dud. And I think WWE has a good track record of having a younger, new start having a breakout moment, and then using that moment and subsequent push to cement themselves. Giving Brock the streak was great and would be amazing no matter what and people wouldn't riot over that. But it was safe and didn't do all THAT much for Brock at the end of the day. It's like gaining XP for a character that's max level.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

From what I've heard, Sheamus as Rocksteady was apparently one of the film's highlights.

 

[Sephzilla]

The Finn Balor experience

 

[FlammableD]

bringing you the hot dark twitter scoops

https://twitter.com/mybrazyIife/status/789857745927303168

mandy rose is in trouble with black wrestling twitter

 

[klonere]

I don't think the whole "big win permanently putting over young guy" angle really works these days.
With inconsistent arse WWE booking and a general lack of charisma with newer talent I don't think the big win approach can set anyone up for life.

I wonder how many months/years it would take them of fixing the whole wins/losses don't matter thing

 

[slightconfuse]

Cena lost clean on tv for the first time in a decade and it meant Jack shit

 

[Sephzilla]

I wonder how many months/years it would take them of fixing the whole wins/losses don't matter thing

In terms of what, booking or fan reaction?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Like gloating over which dwarf is taller.

Friend Groovy, pls.

Better him then Punk who allegedly auditioned for the role.

 

[klonere]

In terms of what, booking or fan reaction?

Fan reaction ie, complete re-education of the audience on how to react to wins and losses in a more appropriate way

 

[Pikma]

Now that's a star.
It's to bad that you know he is ......well you know.

Not saying these fuckers ain't racist but have you seen who the tag team champs have been for the last 400 days?

Honestly hate it when someone brings race like that, without there being a reason to...

 

[Sephzilla]

Fan reaction ie, complete re-education of the audience on how to react to wins and losses in a more appropriate way

Very little time, I think. I think in the eyes of a lot of fans wins and losses still do matter, which is why a huge fucking ton of the roster isn't that over and why everybody in the current era gets so overshadowed when an old timer comes back.