Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So basically I don't have to watch
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^think we know who to give the title to
SallyIsNow
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In this Wrestling with Shadows doc, watching Bret talk to anyone is so awkward. It's like watching Natalya trying to be a wrestler.
SallyIsNow
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/dedSome schuck in a Canada shirt carrying around a Canadian flag. said:
sf2fanatic
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Dark Ninja
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that guy was the highlight of the documentary, a good representation of the average wrestling fan
SallyIsNow
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mechashiva
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I'll be at King of Pro tomorrow!
Dark Ninja
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That Wrestle Kingdom poster just reminds me what a year AJ Styles has had.
-Wrestled at Wrestle Kingdom against Nakamura
-Royal Rumble Debut (not thrown out right away)
-Put over Roman Reigns
-WWE Champion
-Beat John Cena Clean
-Wrestled at Wrestle Kingdom against Nakamura
-Royal Rumble Debut (not thrown out right away)
-Put over Roman Reigns
-WWE Champion
-Beat John Cena Clean
whatevermort
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I've never understood why Bret thinks he got screwed. He was leaving the company, and refused to do the job the company he was leaving told him to do. He had to! He was an employee, and he acted like a shit. I find it all really weird, and he says it's all about respect etc, but I don't know.
Bluekaveli
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He screwed himself.
Lightning Count
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Bret screwed Bret, if he had just agreed to put Michaels over none of this would have happened.
PHOENIXZERO
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Ego, not wanting to put up with any more of Shawn's shit and having creative control in his last 30 days, can't remember if it was "reasonable creative control" or just creative control though, it's kind of a wonder Bret never sued.
The fascinating part about Montreal is that all sides have perfectly valid points.
McMahon and Shawn thought Bret took things too seriously which he did.
Bret thought that Shawn was acting extra douchey towards him, which he was.
Bret thought that Shawn was jealous of his enormous payday, which he was.
Bret thought that McMahon purposefully turned Shawn heel to steal all his thunder, which he did.
Shawn thought that HHH and McMahon had a point about Bret being too hung up about where he dropped the title, which is true. You do it at the PPV.
That being said, Bret did have creative control over his character in the last 30 days, which was not honored.
McMahon thought that the future of the company was neither of these men, which was true.
McMahon and Shawn thought Bret took things too seriously which he did.
Bret thought that Shawn was acting extra douchey towards him, which he was.
Bret thought that Shawn was jealous of his enormous payday, which he was.
Bret thought that McMahon purposefully turned Shawn heel to steal all his thunder, which he did.
Shawn thought that HHH and McMahon had a point about Bret being too hung up about where he dropped the title, which is true. You do it at the PPV.
That being said, Bret did have creative control over his character in the last 30 days, which was not honored.
McMahon thought that the future of the company was neither of these men, which was true.
TarpitCarnivore
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The Steiner brothers, especially Scott, look so bored when they were in WWE in the early 90s.
Lineup announced?
Lineup announced?
Tokyo Dome tickets are going on sale.
Sir_Crocodile
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good man
Bret's are probably the most valid to be fair (even though the man is a total whingebag and I've always though shawn was better in every facet of wrestling). He was willing to drop to shawn at the PPV initially, and then shawn flat out said, thanks, I wouldn't do the same for you. And he said it seriously, not as a joke.
No one would have dropped the title to shawn at the ppv if that had been said to them.
Haha, I love you, imbask.
solid documentary. Lots of great quotes out of there
Even as a Canadian I really enjoyed seeing how disillusioned Bret was, because let's be real he was wrong for the most part.
Because other top guys never refused to do the job to certain other guys. That precedent certainly wasn't already set in the business of pro wrestling.
British Monsoon
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Shawn was a massive cunt, Vince was overly paranoid, and Bret was incredibly naive for thinking Vince would actually take him at his word. There.
Sir_Crocodile
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Meltz has recently said that vince 100% wasn't paranoid about Bret leaving with the title (vince didn't think he'd do it, and even if he did he didn't think bish would do another madusa with the lawsuit ongoing), and that the only thing that makes sense is that vince wanted to do was to damage bret hart's value to the candian market as much as he could before he went to wcw, as canada was one of the few things wwf had over wcw at the time.
Of course his actions probably increased bret's value to canada in theory (though bish so badly mismanaged bret it didn't matter).
Holy shit such a novel concept why didn't I come up with this before
solid documentary. Lots of great quotes out of there
Even as a Canadian I really enjoyed seeing how disillusioned Bret was, because let's be real he was wrong for the most part.
Sir_Crocodile
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you don't have the creative genius of imbask
JesseEwiak
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Anybody who thinks Vince or Shawn especially really have any valid reasons to do the Screwjob are either lying to themselves or have never read the Meltzer Observers on this. Bret had reasonable creative control and already put forth multiple scenarios where he'd drop the belt outside of Canada. He wasn't going to appear on Nitro with the belt.
It's about slapping now. And "bitch".
Bluekaveli
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BIG DEBUT MAGGLE!
Bluekaveli
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So one match has been spoiled
BewareTheBatsie
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Melzter's reporting that Becky's injury is apparently minor and she should be back within the month but she won't be performing tonight.
Edit: Is Meltz always going to go 'this PPV will likely suck' for every Smackdown PPV? He said the same shit about Backlash.
Edit: Is Meltz always going to go 'this PPV will likely suck' for every Smackdown PPV? He said the same shit about Backlash.
Bluekaveli
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He just proves even more that he's a jackass
UberTag
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He's the undisputed wrestler of the year.
Can anyone claim to have fared better? Zayn is treated like an afterthought in the WWE and is probably the only person you could argue has had an equal amount of top-rated matches.
I suppose Matt Hardy could make an argument for the honor. But I would like to think gimmick/feud of the year would be enough for him.
Bluekaveli
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And Kane is going over!
FlammableD
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I think they get the hang of it eventually, but yeah, it's rough for a while.
Let be real ourselves this card is shit, like if they sold on actually PPV no one would buy it. Outside of the main event there nothing really here, exciting. Espessliy if you are dave watching better shows every other week.
shaowebb
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One too many botches.
Pretty standard reaction in the biz honestly.
Pretty standard reaction in the biz honestly.
Do a write up if you can, I love hearing about live shows.
BewareTheBatsie
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People said the exact same thing about Backlash in that it had a terrible card with a potentially exciting main event, and that turned out be arguably one of the better PPV's of the year.
There are no flippy matches on this card which he can rub one out over, so it must be shit
I thought that backlash was just a show it beat my expectations barely so that why I not excited for no mercy.
And also have to put yourself dave shoes , You have No mercy and King of pro wrestling in the span of 24 hours, and when have two of something comparison will be made. No Mercy card is nothing to King of pro wrestling. So I can see where dave is coming from
For someone who has critiqued wrestling for a living his entire life, and experiences the very best matches/events in the business all around the world, I can absolutely see why he would look at No Mercy and just completely not give a fuck.