I wonder how much WWE is struggling behind the scenes. It seems dire but I wonder if it just what's being portrayed and not reality for the exec team. I would think that bringing back or signing wrestlers such as Angle, Sting, Dudleyz, Hardys, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, and others would help fill out the roster to help patch the leaks on the sinking boat while Ambrose, Wyatt, Rollins, Reigns, Zayn, Itami, Devitt, Neville, and Cesaro move up the ranks and gather fans.
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October Wrasslin' |OT| Running around in our underwear making ugly faces
- Thread starter Perspicacity
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It's not how WWE works regardless of how the Internet wants it to.
Merch creating personalities are far more important than wrestling ability. Everyone keeps saying the WWE is struggling yet has survived 12 years on the same booking style and will keep at it.
First off, Sheamus is a pretty dope wrestler. As a character, he has often sucked. In actual matches, he's one of the best guys of the past decade that wasn't big on the US indies first. People complain about the lolbroguekick kind of finishes, but I think that is silly. It's one of the most protected finishers over the last 3-4 years. There has definitely been a problem with his character, especially when he was WHC, but in ring he's dope.
Secondly, I find it impossible to believe that John Cena has zero say in what he does. There is no way that a guy who has been on top for 9 years straight has no influence in what he does or says on screen. It's pretty silly to see how many guys end up much worse off after working with Cena than they were before and claim that he's not at all to blame. Getting into a program with Cena has been terrible for nearly everyone that wasn't already an established star, Edge (who WAS an established star, though not a main event one) and CM Punk. People talk about Hogan all the time, but guys who worked with Hogan in the 80s were still making a lot of money 5-10 years later. Working with Hogan made guys valuable for years. Working with Cena kills your heat and gets you turned into a joke or released with in a couple of years. He has consistently gone out and shit on gimmicks for the past 7 or 8 years, very very very rarely put over anyone clean, and typically made guys look terrible in the feud ending matches. You can say he's just following orders, but to pretend like he has no say is silly. He's like just about every to guy ever; he protects his spot.
Perspicacity
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Ugh. So much wrestling discussion going on in here
I just bought Wolfenstein.
I have to use video games to celebrate my American pride because Big Show can't.
JesseEwiak
Member
And this is why they keep on going back to Cena. Because he's dependable. When Cena gets injured, he comes back early.
sf2fanatic
Member
Um, you contradict yourself. Sting is already giving them a lot of great mercy possibilities. The others I mentioned, especially Jeff Hardy, would give WWE great merch to sell while the new stars rise. And you're wrong -- if wrestling ability wasn't considered, then Angle would be back by now based on the past 2 years of talk.
JesseEwiak
Member
Angle's not back because he's a pill popping drunk who's one too many soma or pain pills from being another death, only this time, it'll be an Olympic gold medalist.
As for the rest, the Hardy's aren't worth the trouble of another drug issue and all of his 14-year-old fans who were creaming their panties over him are doing it over Dean Ambrose or Roman Reigns now, Samoa Joe is old and fat, Bully Ray is old, AJ Styles makes more in Japan (and wouldn't want to go to NXT), and Bobby Roode is too old.
bloodyroarxx
Member
Late but I'm POSTIVE 2k announced that career mode was only next gen 2k15 a while ago.
Yawn. They will sell merch regardless of whatever excuses you may have for not signing them.
I wonder which is worse, being sour over the content of a show, or being sour over the people watching that show?
Good thing he did, I doubt Bret/HBK III (let's count the 1992 Survivor Series match!) would've had the same impact as Bret/Austin.
I couldn't get the PPV on my cable, and wondering if Diesel beat Mabel is why I got on the internet for the first time ever. You quit talking dirty on Diesel. You're betraying the new generation!
My only interest in a Career mode in a wrestling game lies in the backstage politic simulator that it should be. I want to 'get heat' by refusing to put up some young up and comer over. I want to see someone with a lot of momentum and get into a feud with them where I ultimately win the war.
I mean, NBA 2k's career mode kinda does that kind of stuff with making drama amongst your players. Reality era, damnit.
I mean, NBA 2k's career mode kinda does that kind of stuff with making drama amongst your players. Reality era, damnit.
Sibersk Esto
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I want to browse wrasslegaf in my career mode.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134258480
This man gets it, friends.
We need more positivity in this thread.
This man gets it, friends.
We need more positivity in this thread.
I was watching some old episode of Raw and they opened with Owen/Anvil v. Bret/Bulldog and gave them like 20 minutes. There was a PPV report to recap some stuff, then Bam Bam had a squash, then a brief King's Court with 1-2-3 Kid and I thought this might be a good example of how they managed to fit a bunch of good stuff on one-hour episodes. But then there was a Doink match where he squashed Pat Tanaka and the midget clowns and midget kings had a staredown. That might have been the worst SS match ever. 
Oh, it was also the episode where Vince says bye to Macho. His face after his statement is like "you fuck."
Oh, it was also the episode where Vince says bye to Macho. His face after his statement is like "you fuck."
Guys who were never the same after working with Cena:
- Chris Jericho
- Christian
- Umaga
- Great Khali
- Ken Kennedy
- Randy Orton (arguably)
- JBL
- Bobby Lashley
- Carlito
- Every member of The Nexus
- R-Truth
- Miz
- Alberto Del Rio
- Mark Henry
- Damien Sandow
- Kane (arguably)
- Ryback
- Bray Wyatt (plus Harper and Rowan)
Angle isn't there for health concerns that he wants to work less dates, while WWE wants more of a commitment.
Everyone still tunes in regardless of who is in RAW. WWE can't be failing or no one would watch.
You're forgetting about all the people he's leeched popularity from:
Cryme Time
Zack Ryder
Usos
Countless more, help me out people.
Hidden One
Member
Push the man. Or at least make him the new genius
Greatest thing i've ever seen
bloodyroarxx
Member
I want Mizdow in 2k15 always on the outside mimmicking the match too bad the gimmick came in too late.
I also didn't include all the times he crushed a popular mid card act on Raw in a 5 minute match for no reason. Or defeated a tag team with ease in a handicap match. The biggest example that comes to mind was a random complete squash of Cody Rhodes on Raw when he had been working hard for months to get over as a heel. This was within the last 2 years. I believe it twas during the time he was teaming with Sandow. They had a match on Raw for no reason that was a complete squash. Cena is 100x worse than Hogan just based on how different the modern WWE TV style is. Hogan basically only wrestled on SNME and PPVs, and the dudes that worked with him would have another 10 years of making money in WWE or WCW as long as they weren't super hard to work with or complete fuck ups. Even though Hulk would always Hulk Up and kick out of finishers, he sold like death for dudes.
Cena wrestles almost every week for 9 years and guys who work programs with him have to start all over again or find work elsewhere. There is a consistent pattern of guys taking huge hits to their careers after working with Cena. Both on the mic and in ring. The pattern is so consistent and blatant that only a dumb dumb the likes of Aiii would believe it is just coincidental. Only the same type of Aiii level dumb dumb would believe that he doesn't have a say in what he does. That same Aiii type would be naive enough to think that he isn't aware of how he kills gimmicks on the mic and in the ring. He's not a politician like Hogan was, but he doesn't need to be. His role is to step in and say "this is a bad idea, it's going to hurt X". He's way, way past the point of beating every top up and comer being something that helps him get/stay over. As the top guy and defacto leader, it's up to him to reject ideas that put him over at the expense of hurting guys. After nearly a decade of doing the opposite, I think it is fair to assume he's a bit of a shit head and partially to blame for the lack of new stars and boring ass shows.
#AstinSlodOut
The failure of the network + going public is resulting in massive problems for them.
They went public 14 years ago, though. They also haven't changed how they run shit at all since going public. They're public, but the McMahon family holds something like 70% of controlling interest. I don't think being a public company has anything to do with their current issues. Most of the problems they have now are rooted in the post-Attitude Era where they had no identity and were gun shy about pushing new stars over established Monday Night War guys.
British Monsoon
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First matches for Power Struggle announced;
. Special Singles Match: AJ Styles vs Yoshi Tatsu
. Special Tag Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi vs Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI
. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Katsuyori Shibata
Also, it looks like Ryusuke Taguchi may have broken his ankle in the match with El Desperado yesterday. I think he injured it right at the end, when he hit the Dodon's Throne. Hopefully it's not too serious, worst time of year to get injured in New Japan, what with the Tokyo Dome show on the horizon.
. Special Singles Match: AJ Styles vs Yoshi Tatsu
. Special Tag Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi vs Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI
. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Katsuyori Shibata
Also, it looks like Ryusuke Taguchi may have broken his ankle in the match with El Desperado yesterday. I think he injured it right at the end, when he hit the Dodon's Throne. Hopefully it's not too serious, worst time of year to get injured in New Japan, what with the Tokyo Dome show on the horizon.
How good is Yoshi Tatsu when they actually allow him to be a legitimate competitor?
Not that - it's the slash/burn cuts they're going through right now that are primarily the result of going public years back. They can't just eat the L.
So... I wouldn't give this too much merit normally. It's probably a flub, and I'd be extremely shocked if it wasn't. Don't know if any of the gamescom hands-on have said anything. I'm thinking maybe this is the last gen versions blurb, and they pasted it over.
But.
On the WWE 2k15 store page on PSN. It says, '720p HD Video Output'
But.
On the WWE 2k15 store page on PSN. It says, '720p HD Video Output'
PS4 store.
And another fun thing. They have a 'digital deluxe' version listed. It's 80 dollars. So you might think, 'oh it saves me 5 dollars on the season pass like every other gold edition' or whatever. NOPE. It's the Hulkamania edition WITH NONE OF THE PHYSICAL STUFF
And another fun thing. They have a 'digital deluxe' version listed. It's 80 dollars. So you might think, 'oh it saves me 5 dollars on the season pass like every other gold edition' or whatever. NOPE. It's the Hulkamania edition WITH NONE OF THE PHYSICAL STUFF
No more "JEEEEYAAAAAHHHNNN CENAAAAAAA!!!!"
They've been doing that alot I've noticed, giving the special limited edition crap digitally for the same price as physical on the PSN store, not sure what's up with that, surely people don't buy into that?
Of course they do
But there's nothing to the Hulkamania edition besides a few pre-order character skins, that's just insane.
It's more like JEEEEEERRRRRRRN SIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAA.
This is awesome.
The more I think about it. With the history of Yukes. And all the 'impressions' from Gamescom....
I bet it is 720p. Let Yukes lead the way in being outdated. Because almost every other game either says 1080p or doesn't list resolution at all. It's totally going to be 720p, and it's still going to perform like shit.
I bet it is 720p. Let Yukes lead the way in being outdated. Because almost every other game either says 1080p or doesn't list resolution at all. It's totally going to be 720p, and it's still going to perform like shit.
The deluxe edition includes the season pass.
I don't think there's any 720p PS4 games yet, that I know off, everything is 900p or up. And even 900p is undercutting the hardware for one reason or another. There's no reason it shouldn't be 1080p, they don't exactly have the highest graphical demand.
It's probably an error, NBA 2k14 was 1080p, and I doubt 2K would accept anything less from Yuke's.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Upvoted.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
This is just some incredible shit right here.This raw was worth it for me just for this
Oh noes its not 1080pee
I game at a desk on a 27" monitor, 720p to 1080p is a big difference when you're that close to your screen unfortunately.
Need that smoothness.
Professor Beef
Banned
WWE15 not being 1080p is the LEAST of the game's worries.
With Charles Robinson as ref, doesn't get much better than Lil' Naitch selling all the power moves in the background.
Well since it will probably play the same as the other ones, I would at least like more badly controlling pixels.
British Monsoon
Member
Anyone else really enjoy Bruce Tharpe-des? I don't think the character could work anywhere else but Japan, he's so over the top, in the vein of proper old-school managers. He's been the best thing about the New Japan partnership with the NWA, that's for sure.
Incidentally, W-1 confirmed that El Patron (Del Rio) will be wrestling Masakatsu Funaki! That's something actually worth paying attention to W-1 for, I'd say.
Incidentally, W-1 confirmed that El Patron (Del Rio) will be wrestling Masakatsu Funaki! That's something actually worth paying attention to W-1 for, I'd say.