Agreed 100 percent. And this is largely due to the WWE's internal structure and the corporatization of the company. Guys aren't allowed to really be themselves and to grow naturally, but are instead forced to "grow" within the limited confines of the paper-thin stories they are given.
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Agreed 100 percent. And this is largely due to the WWE's internal structure and the corporatization of the company. Guys aren't allowed to really be themselves and to grow naturally, but are instead forced to "grow" within the limited confines of the paper-thin stories they are given.
Conrad Link
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Guys lets have a tag match and it will end in DQ because another wrestler who is in the match hits someone else in the match and the ref just decides "HEY HEY RING DA BELL!"
Also, lets do this multiple times in a row on different shows.
Also, lets do this multiple times in a row on different shows.
Yeah, I can't believe there wasn't a bigger "WTF" reaction to that spot online. Made zero sense. Kane can't hit his opponent? Yeah.
The WWE/WWF tag match style has always sucked(get DQ'd after interfering a couple of times). The only time it doesn't is when they are allowed not to work that style(Smackdown Six, and the recent Uso matches with the Wyatts), but still they somehow revert back to the old formula.
Scott Norton, protector of downed Gaffers
Heh...
What are you talking about? I don't remember a single DQ for breaking up too many pins until this year. That was allegedly a rule that no one realized or enforced for 30 years in WWE. And now it is only enforced when they don't want to do a real finish. I don't remember that ever being used in the 80s or 90s. I think I had seen it in some NWA and Japan stuff, but not in WWE until recently.
It's there, they just use the old behind the refs back to explain the lack of DQ's when they don't call them.
Mr. Luchador
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Speaking of Tag Matches, I was watching a ROH show from 2002 and they were putting over the white chord the tag partner has to hold on to. Made me chuckle, but they did a good job of making it seem important and one of the long lost rules of wrestling.
I remember that too. I also remember the Smackdown Six era revived that idea as well. Such a cool little detail that got forgotten about when Vince decided he didn't like tag wrestling again.
They had a push pretty recently 2009? 2010? Where they were using the tag ropes. It was pretty dope.
¡HarlequinPanic!
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but movie crow is supposed to be morbidly funny :[
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Deleted member 47027
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Did y'all see Del Rio is gonna be wrestling for WRESTLE-1 in November? I'm excited.
Add wrestler 1, wrestler 2, Bruno Sammartino, and a hologram of a prime Lou Thez to the rumble.
BronsonLee
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Howling at people trying to charge ridiculous markups for Rumble tickets already. Some dude bought like 40 on Craigslist and is charging like 200%
I think both work well but yeah Crow Sting ended up being cooler for these reasons.
It will be like when
Batista
except with more boos because he'll probably eliminate Ambrose as well
BronsonLee
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I'm starting to wonder if they're going to put Ambrose in something good for Mania. I honestly don't think Reigns wins the Rumble, but he does wrecking ball everyone again.
I still say Bryan/Brock is your Mania main and Bryan taps him to win, but a dark horse would be Ambrose/Brock
I still say Bryan/Brock is your Mania main and Bryan taps him to win, but a dark horse would be Ambrose/Brock
The answer is no. It's always no.
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BronsonLee
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Well, conventional logic says that Batista returning and winning the Rumble would've been fine, but the audience reaction really shook people. That's when things changed. Bryan hit supernova there just through his absence.
I don't think Vince makes that mistake again. If he does, it's to make someone new like Ambrose or Reigns.
They kicked off his real singles push at Summerslam though. They did the same thing with Bryan and look how that ended?
Look you boner
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If Vince listened to Tumblr, WWE would be weirdly exciting.
The Shield would reunite with a Live Sex Celebration
Bryan would remain beta as fuck
That's about it
The Shield would reunite with a Live Sex Celebration
Bryan would remain beta as fuck
That's about it
Reigns not getting his shining moment in the rumble and his wrestlemania moment? Lol Vince only sees dollar signs...not logic.
As far as Bork/Bryan is concern...I doubt it's going to be such a thing given the fact that Brock will probably drop the belt by survivor series if not sooner.
I love both.
BronsonLee
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Reigns got his shining moment last year, that's what got him started. Bryan's definitely more of a draw than Reigns though, which in hindsight is an odd thing to say.
Brock's keeping that shit until Mania, guaranteed. They don't go the route they did without having him hold the belt hostage for a while.
I want to believe the booing of Batista was a huge difference maker, but I think the real difference maker was that Batista was fucking awful when he actually got in the ring during his return run. He was gassed after a few minutes and most of his moves looked sloppy as fuck.
¡HarlequinPanic!
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Rocktoo
Punk can only quit the company once though, so there's a discrepancy in this theory.
And as great as Ambrose is, he's not the one they chose. Hell, his current program only exists by virtue of Reigns' hernia.
True but at the end of the day WWE doesn't hear reaction or even see potential draw though. They want to be in control of what draws for the star studded event of the year. So Bryan vs Brock which could be the biggest match of the decade will be push to the side for the meh pair up of Brock/Reigns because they so desperately trying to fulfill an era that died years ago...and they refuse to let it go despite the godtier roster they have as of this moment.
Sibersk Esto
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eeehhhhh
Naw, there's no way they're reaching Rock/Cena levels of hype for that match.
Honestly there's just straight up nobody on the active roster you can put against Brock and have people go "holy fuck I need to see this".
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Did you not enjoy the classic and emotional matches between HHH and Brock?
Because people were so focus on Bryan being in the Main event so badly that punk mattered but not in a catastrophe magnitude. Wrestlemenia 30 looked like shit as time was progressing before hand with speculation that Punk was going to wrestle Trips and Batista was going to wrestle Orton for the belt. It reeked of Vince's dream of what the company needs to produce instead of how the PPV turned out with it being sort of a pass of the torch to the new generation.....and cena reigning supreme.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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But The Rock just came back!
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Not if goofy ass face promo Bryan returns
The match alone screams wrestlemania moment right there. It's like Andre/Hogan levels of anticipation with Bryan being the underdog and Bork being the beast. All this buildup needs is segments from Heyman, staredowns, and beatdowns for this match to be a success....or if all else fails....it can be paired with the obvious Cena/Reigns match which seems likely.
...oh yeah. I forgot what Bryan's character turned into before he left.
Why everyone gotta turn into Cena when they get a face push? Roman Reigns was practically reading a Cena promo during his shitty taped interview on Monday.
*pauses for crowd reaction*
*crowd does not react*
*smug smile believing the crowd just popped*
I honestly don't see a scenario where Bryan doesn't win and the crowd doesn't shit on that Rumble.
I get the feeling they'll do one of two things:
1. Bryan stays off TV (even if he's cleared to return), and they make it abundantly clear that he is not cleared to compete and therefore will not be on the show in any way.
2. Bryan gets his title shot against Brock at Rumble. Gets decimated, cannot enter the Rumble.
Either way Reigns is the first man and wins the whole thing free. The crowd will NOT like it. This whole Reigns build comes off as way too forced.
I get the feeling they'll do one of two things:
1. Bryan stays off TV (even if he's cleared to return), and they make it abundantly clear that he is not cleared to compete and therefore will not be on the show in any way.
2. Bryan gets his title shot against Brock at Rumble. Gets decimated, cannot enter the Rumble.
Either way Reigns is the first man and wins the whole thing free. The crowd will NOT like it. This whole Reigns build comes off as way too forced.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
...oh yeah. I forgot what Bryan's character turned into before he left.
Why everyone gotta turn into Cena when they get a face push? Roman Reigns was practically reading a Cena promo during his shitty taped interview on Monday.
*pauses for crowd reaction*
*crowd does not react*
*smug smile believing the crowd just popped*
I am not the weak link Bryan stands a better chance
Yeah. WM30's projected card going into Royal Rumble was terrible.
I just meant that I don't think Punk quitting is what started the domino effect of getting Bryan into the main event. Bryan was already over as fuck before Punk left, Batista being in terrible ring-shape was going to happen regardless, and Orton was putting on boring matches with everyone. The biggest direct impact of Punk's departure was probably that he freed up Triple H to go have a better match with someone else.