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Officer Chun-Li costume spotted in latest SFV beta, also some other lame costumes

airjoca

Member
So many people "offended" by sexuality in this game.

Hope all of you are equally or more offended by the games where the player can murder endless innocent civilians with guns.
 
Cammy has alts that have pants tho

Sakura's alts are all warring against the pants

Schoolgirls don't wear pants, silly.

At least, I've never seen Japanese schoolgirls wearing pants. There were some girls in my private school in the US that opted to wear pants over skirts.
 

vulva

Member
Do you?
Have you seen Cammy played?
Looking through multiple beta videos by players infinitely better than I am I can not see one Cammy player practicing such behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51zrufzqMOE

Really, let's please not get petty here.
I am just making a point about the logistics of the slow movements that were intentionally being done to expose something in that original video.
I am not trying to sidetrack the thread.
It sounds like it was a glitch anyway.


I understand , and every character is played differently though the base game is the same.
I was referring only to Cammy in this case because Cammy was the one in the video that this was about which now seems to have been a glitch which makes this all redundant.
Yeah, I do. Here's my bracket from 2014 of me getting out of my pool in winners:
http://evo2014.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/ssf4_e64.html

Here's a video of me winning on the main stage at EVO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AQxQMbmWTk

More importantly, here's a video of me losing to a Cammy on the main stage at EVO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psOlc1Zj8_E


Notice in the video where I lose that Xiao Hai repeatedly walks back and forth until he gets in? That's from a player who's well experienced with that iteration, knows which buttons to press in what situation and how to approach and get in to the correct range before maximizing an opportunity. This is in a serious setting where winning actually matters quite a bit from a game that people have studied and learned how to correctly approach numerous situations.

Conversely you linked an awful cammy who abuses specials and got perfected for it in a game that isn't figured out yet in a casual online setting.

If you think that's how you're supposed to play street fighter then I'm thinking you just don't know how
 

mbpm1

Member
I'm glad people were so quick to respond to this obvious question. smh some people don't even know the most basic Street Fighter lore.


Cammy was being controlled by Bison, who is fond of pants for the most part. Did you even play Alpha?

I mean she has pants alts in SF4 too

Catsuit is pants

New Skate punk costume Cammy is pants

And I did play Alpha
for about an hour
 
Now we getting somewhere. Although I'd find it more fitting on Chun or Laura than Mika. What we gon do bout that shirt and hair doe?

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something like this maybe???
 
Starting to? When has Cammy been anything but a character designed to pander to teenage boys?
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.
 

Mesoian

Member
So many people "offended" by sexuality in this game.

Hope all of you are equally or more offended by the games where the player can murder endless innocent civilians with guns.

I mean, there aren't a whole ton of games out there that do such things as actual mechanics.

Almost every video game dresses their women up this way with very little alternative.
 
I'm liking the alt costumes. It fits with SF IMO.

Edit:
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.

This too.
 

Basketball

Member
it sucks that people feel that Capcom

needs to explain themselves for these costumes

Don't like it don't buy them, use them , block players who use them if it bothers you so much. It's nice to have options and I have no doubt the game will have a crapton of alts for everyone. So if a person wants to use real coinage or zenni to use them .. feel free.
Capcom's not going to judge you like some of the people here or the Vtriggered folks on twitter. They just want the dough.

It's funny League of Legends one of the most profitable games, and has pretty much the widest viewership/audience has a bunch females who show skin.
 
The dirty secret of Sakura is that she's 23.

I still refuse to accept that shit, SF4 was a dream match as far as I'm concerned! Capcom's explanation that she just keeps wearing the schoolgirl uniform because she feels like it makes her character pretty creepy.

Except they are bloomers. Like a cheerleader.

Yup. Bloomers aren't panties. They're usually worn over panties..

You're right, they're bloomers. In my heart they were panties.
 
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.

True that. I'm also 27, but I don't have any kids yet. But I like T&A just as much now as I did when I was 14. I'm a lot less creepy about it now then I was back then, though, if you can believe that :p
 

Wanderer5

Member
Y'know, this is is the kind of shit that makes me feel like Capcom didn't think through this stuff well enough. Like, how does this stuff make it this far without these considerations?

Capdude 1: We finished this alternate costume for Cammy. How does it look?
Capdude 2: Awesome, put it in.
Capdude 3: Well it looks nice on paper, but how exactly is that going to work in game when, for example, she gets flipped upside down by a piledriver?
Capdude 2: ...What? Who cares dude it's great, put it in.
Capdude 1: Also here's Laura's first alternate costume.
Capdude 3: What the hell is that?!
Capdude 2: LOVE IT, put it in!

Holy crap that picture.XD
 

Mesoian

Member
I still refuse to accept that shit, SF4 was a dream match as far as I'm concerned! Capcom's explanation that she just keeps wearing the schoolgirl uniform because she feels like it makes her character pretty creepy.

She's the eternal high school girl. I bet she gets really upset when her friends tell her to get a job and some new clothes because THE SPIRIT OF A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL LIVES WITHIN HER GOD DAMNIT!

Yes, it doesn't make sense
 
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.

Fucking truth. It gets so old. Me an you are the exact same age coincidentally enough, and I'm married as well. No kids yet. And I like some T&A myself.

Its getting ridiculous in some of these threads. If you are a strait male who likes to look at the female body you should apparently be ashamed of yourself for it. Nah bruh, I'm good and will continue to like it.
 
I mean she has pants alts in SF4 too

Catsuit is pants

New Skate punk costume Cammy is pants

And I did play Alpha
for about an hour
That Catsuit alt was a what-if? call back to her subplot in Alpha 3 when Bison made all of the dolls wear cat suits. If you remember her ending in that game, she has to go to a psychologist to get over the trauma of having to wear pants over and over again.

I believe the skate punk costume is a similar situation from the Udon comics during the "Return of the Dolls" arc.
 

mbpm1

Member
Capcom's explanation that she just keeps wearing the schoolgirl uniform because she feels like it makes her character pretty creepy.

Isn't that what we all are?

No

That Catsuit alt was a what-if? call back to her subplot in Alpha 3 when Bison made all of the dolls wear cat suits. If you remember her ending in that game, she has to go to a psychologist to get over the trauma of having to wear pants over and over again.

Alright, that's OD. Cammy stomps the pantsless battle.
 

Kyzon

Member
Cammy is actually wearing more than usual in her alt. I don't see what the problem is. Laura's outfit isn't all that outlandish. I'd put some booty shorts on her though rather than just the bikini bottom personally, but that's just my style. She dresses like a typical girl going on vacation.
 

Hex

Banned
Yeah, I do. Here's my bracket from 2014 of me getting out of my pool in winners:
http://evo2014.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/ssf4_e64.html

Here's a video of me winning on the main stage at EVO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AQxQMbmWTk

More importantly, here's a video of me losing to a Cammy on the main stage at EVO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psOlc1Zj8_E


Notice in the video where I lose that Xiao Hai repeatedly walks back and forth until he gets in? That's from a player who's well experienced with that iteration, knows which buttons to press in what situation and how to approach and get in to the correct range before maximizing an opportunity. This is in a serious setting where winning actually matters quite a bit from a game that people have studied and learned how to correctly approach numerous situations.

Conversely you linked an awful cammy who abuses specials and got perfected for it in a game that isn't figured out yet in a casual online setting.

If you think that's how you're supposed to play street fighter then I'm thinking you just don't know how

Was definitely not the best video but Max's vids have alot of fluff.

Now, I can apprecate that so compare that Cammy you fought to this https://gfycat.com/PerfectHappyImperatorangel
Those do not seem slow and deliberate to you?
 

vulva

Member
Was definitely not the best video but Max's vids have alot of fluff.

You're ignoring the most important part though. You asked if I've seen Cammy in action, watch the xiaohai video where he beats me. You'll see lots of walking back and forth until an opportunity arises. This is key to high level street fighter in every game ever released. Spacing out your opponent to get a feel for them and the distances they like etc.

This is literally the thing you claimed no one would do.
 

mbpm1

Member
Little subtle movements are the key to high level SF really.

It's kind of outlandish to say that won't happen most of the time.
 

Hex

Banned
You're ignoring the most important part though. You asked if I've seen Cammy in action, watch the xiaohai video where he beats me. You'll see lots of walking back and forth until an opportunity arises. This is key to high level street fighter in every game ever released. Spacing out your opponent to get a feel for them and the distances they like etc.

This is literally the thing you claimed no one would do.

I really am not finished, editing my response now.
I am at work and had to find the original clip so if we can go back to that instead of jumping my shit?
 

vulva

Member
I really am not finished, editing my response now.
I am at work and had to find the original clip so if we can go back to that instead of jumping my shit?

kk, you don't need to race to respond though. When I see a post I assume that's their response. Don't get defensive because I responded to your post.
 

pizzacat

Banned
Little subtle movements are the key to high level SF really.

It's kind of outlandish to say that won't happen most of the time.
The argument he's trying to say is kinda null when you realize that even the slightest movement still reveals her underwear, so unless this dude plays cammy without movement at all I don't really see the sense in that?
 

XenoRaven

Member
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.
It's just the internet cool guy squad taking an opportunity to prove how cool they are because they're like, so above this sort of thing.
 

RMI

Banned
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.

damn straight. well said.
 

Goodstyle

Member
Fucking truth. It gets so old. Me an you are the exact same age coincidentally enough, and I'm married as well. No kids yet. And I like some T&A myself.

Its getting ridiculous in some of these threads. If you are a strait male who likes to look at the female body you should apparently be ashamed of yourself for it. Nah bruh, I'm good and will continue to like it.

That's fine, but a lot of people think it looks stupid. Compare Sonya Blade's outfits from the MK series from MK9 to MKX. This is a character that is supposed to belong to a military organization, but in MK9 she just looks like someone who bought a "Sexy Army Girl" outfit from her local Halloween store and decided to wear it in fights. In MKX however she actually looks like a person the designers respected enough to make her design fit her character, and I think most would agree that her clothing looks way better as a result.

I don't know, when I look at Cammy wearing the same dumb outfit, making the same lame poses after winning a round, I don't see sexy, I see sweaty middle aged guys in an office creating their own masturbatory material. It just ends up feeling sleazy and kinda silly at the same time. I get that this is how a lot of guys who play these games get their rocks off, but it isn't my bag.

For what it's worth, I also think Urien's outfit (if you could call it that) looks stupid too and would much rather he keep his suit on for fights, so please, save the double standard replies if you're thinking of them.
 

mbpm1

Member
The argument he's trying to say is kinda null when you realize that even the slightest movement still reveals her underwear, so unless this dude plays cammy without movement at all I don't really see the sense in that?

That's the thing too. If Cammy stops for any reason, her stuff flies up like she's in zero gravity.

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that it's a glitch though.

Plus I know I'll get used to it, just like how Decapre's random flailing when she neutral jumps doesn't distract me as much anymore.
 

Mesoian

Member
That's fine, but a lot of people think it looks stupid. Compare Sonya Blade's outfits from the MK series from MK9 to MKX. This is a character that is supposed to belong to a military organization, but in MK9 she just looks like someone who bought a "Sexy Army Girl" outfit from her local Halloween store and decided to wear it in fights. In MKX however she actually looks like a person the designers respected enough to make her design fit her character.

I don't know, when I look at Cammy wearing the same dumb outfit, making the same lame poses after winning a round, I don't see sexy, I see sweaty middle aged guys in an office creating their own masturbatory material. It just ends up feeling sleazy and kinda silly at the same time. I get that this is how a lot of guys who play these games get their rocks off, but I feel just feel differently.

For what it's worth, I also think Urien's outfit (if you could call it that) looks stupid too and would much rather he keep his suit on for fights, so please, save the double standard replies if you're thinking of them.

Agreed. Some of us like a little context with our foreplay or, at the very least, more context than "Cammy hate pants" or, "have you even BEEN to Brazil man? You just don't know".
 

Mista Koo

Member
I mean, Namco for example asked for help from people who live in the Middle East in regards to Shaheen's character. They asked about looks, fighting styles, how people dress and fight over there. They wanted to make sure they got an accurate representation of someone in the 2010s who looks like they live in said area.

How did he end up looking?

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You mean to tell me that people can get bent out of shape over a guy who looks like this after all the help they've gotten from people who live in said area with said knowledge? Same thing happened with Rashid and people automatically jump the gun.

Come on now dog.
They barely changed Shaheen based on feedback. This was my feedback as a Saudi regarding authenticity (which wasn't an uncommon opinion).
Shaheen gets points over Rashid for looking better plus having authentic headdress. Rashid gets points for being cooler plus wearing something resembling a thobe/kandoorah and not a shirt.

Also in the case of Rashid they've just asked their Middle East distributor for help, not locals.

Here's my problem with your critique of Rashid - while there are obviously some calls to cultural generalizations, more specifically the keffiyeh he is wearing on his head (which is common for people of the region he originates from, due to the natural climate of the area), Rashid is actually one of the more culturally 'aware' characters in all of the SF roster. When he was first announced, Capcom stated they worked together with a group that is ultimately going to be publishing SFV in the UAE in his design, and it shows in what we got. If you weren't aware, Rashid's design is derived from the Mevlevi Order, aka whirling dervish.
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Gulf Arabs aren't big into Sufism so I doubt it. One variation of the Saudi folk dance Ardah (Yowlah in UAE) has custom designed thobe/kandoorah designed for similar twirly movements:

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Here's my problem with your critique of Rashid - while there are obviously some calls to cultural generalizations, more specifically the keffiyeh he is wearing on his head (which is common for people of the region he originates from, due to the natural climate of the area), Rashid is actually one of the more culturally 'aware' characters in all of the SF roster. When he was first announced, Capcom stated they worked together with a group that is ultimately going to be publishing SFV in the UAE in his design, and it shows in what we got. If you weren't aware, Rashid's design is derived from the Mevlevi Order, aka whirling dervish.
220px-Whirling_Dervishes_2.JPG


There is a ton about the Mevlevi that informs Rashid's design, from him constantly moving in neutral (he is maintaining rhythm & continuing his 'dance', if you will) its just that you need to look a little deeper to see its meaning. Not only that, due to this inspiration, Rashid represents one of the better new designs for a potentially Muslim character, that avoids many of the stereotypical trappings that are associated with the religion currently. I'm not Arab, so I can't speak on how Arab's feel Rashid positively or negatively represents them & people from their region. However, I have to give Capcom credit with at least giving way more thought & consideration when creating a character from an underrepresented region, especially since that region has a lot of negativity built-up in its cultural mindset here in the West.

Also, on a sidenote, being Brazilian myself, Laura's alt outfit is possibly one of the best depictions of street & beach wear i've seen on women in Brazil. The only thing off about it are the shorts + thong combo. From my experience, many women in Brazil would either just be wearing a g-string, or a bikini bottom in her shorts, or just shorts - not some crazy high-riding thong + those shorts. Also, the shoes in that outfit are on point for local-wear for Brazilian women.

The Mevlevi Order is based in Turkey though while Rashid is a character from the Arabian peninsula so no they are not culturally aware if what you assume is true, unless you think the Middle East is a homogeneous region consisting of 1 culture.
 
That's fine, but a lot of people think it looks stupid. Compare Sonya Blade's outfits from the MK series from MK9 to MKX. This is a character that is supposed to belong to a military organization, but in MK9 she just looks like someone who bought a "Sexy Army Girl" outfit from her local Halloween store and decided to wear it in fights. In MKX however she actually looks like a person the designers respected enough to make her design fit her character, and I think most would agree that her clothing looks way better as a result.

I don't know, when I look at Cammy wearing the same dumb outfit, making the same lame poses after winning a round, I don't see sexy, I see sweaty middle aged guys in an office creating their own masturbatory material. It just ends up feeling sleazy and kinda silly at the same time. I get that this is how a lot of guys who play these games get their rocks off, but it isn't my bag.

For what it's worth, I also think Urien's outfit (if you could call it that) looks stupid too and would much rather he keep his suit on for fights, so please, save the double standard replies if you're thinking of them.

I have exactly ZERO issue with someone not liking the designs. If I was a strait female I probably wouldn't be crazy about a lot of them.

But the non stop ridicule that comes in some of these threads because some guys like to look at tits and ass is getting hella old some times. Saying, hey these designs don't work for me and I don't like how sexualized they are. That's cool no issue. Its when people say stuff like "Wow only a teenage boy could ever like something like this" or try to make people feel ashamed about it I have an issue with.

I'm a very successful married man. And I like tits. Oh well.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
I feel like this is some kind of old meme I've missed this whole time. I see it often, when some folks insinuate boobs and ass in games are specifically for "teenage boys". Coming from myself who's 27 and married with a child; digital T&A are still fairly nice to look at lol.

bravo.
 

vulva

Member
Was definitely not the best video but Max's vids have alot of fluff.

Now, I can apprecate that so compare that Cammy you fought to this https://gfycat.com/PerfectHappyImperatorangel
Those do not seem slow and deliberate to you?

They do seem slow and deliberate, but I think it's within reason that someone could do something very similar in a match and get a similar result.

Realistically I don't think the final version will completely end up like this and there will be alterations made to ensure that the new costume works better since these are just haphazardly slapped on by modders, but I absolutely believe that you'd see very similar movement in a real match.
 

LordJim

Member
I don't know, when I look at Cammy wearing the same dumb outfit, making the same lame poses after winning a round, I don't see sexy, I see sweaty middle aged guys in an office creating their own masturbatory material.

It's because if they let the women do the designs, they would be even lewder

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