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[YianGaruga]

I know you're joking but this is kind of a problematic joke. "She dresses risque so she deserves fro bad things to happen to her" is not a sentiment that should fly. Again, I know you were joking but this has uncomfortable implications.

Don't want to step on anyone's toes, I edited it out. But that was pretty much my point.
It's just an outfit. The view that it makes the game less family friendly is problematic itself.

 

[Gbraga]

For some reason I'm in love with Rashid(OOOO)'s alt. I want to hate him, but I can't.

I swear, his theme will end up making me play him.

 

[cordy]

You're reaching with Mika. She's not nearly as bad as Laura is in A3.

Urien is interesting. He's sexualized but he could also be laughed at "lol dude wearing a thong!"

Akuma isn't sexualized at all in those shots.

Cammy is a hard case, but comparing Cammy to those Laura shots seems reaching.

R. Mika isn't as "bad" as Laura based on the graphics back then rather than today. It's 2016 so of course it's a different spectrum but take a look at her character art. It's not as if they toned it down, they had limits back then which dealt with graphics. Urien's look is sexual and from what I've heard from others it did it's job which says everything. I mean just look at the dude. Also imagine how he will be when his art is shown in SF5. I can't wait for the people saying "Laura is too sexual" to make comments on how Urien will be and with that said I wonder if with Urien will there even be a major backlash like with this. At that point there's a different demon in play here. Akuma? Akuma as a character being in shots like that with that clothing says everything, it's the whole point of it. He's not designed to be that way, well originally. And finally Cammy, I just picked a random Cammy shot but we all know about her victory pose in which she turns to the camera and shows her ass which has noticeably gotten more sexualized through the years.

Either way it's based on SF as a whole. Back in the early-mid 90s with graphics, how gaming was then and with society, that's as much as we could see sexually but as the years went on it's been ramped up goin from Mika to what we have today. I wouldn't say this series has gotten "more sexual" at all.

I'd just say that with the graphics, society and with the aesthetics of the game and what they're trying to portray, it's just more noticeable now than then trying to look at a 24inch tv and seeing a pixel turn around facing the screen showing a small butt with no shading even.

It's just that the times have changed. I mean it would be a different story if Laura's outfit was something like Mileena's MK9 secret costume. From what I hear how Laura's dressed is actually how a lot of women dress in Brazil.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

nvm

And I was all set to make a witty reply, too.

Can't you turn off alts for opposing characters online? I could've sworn SFIV let you do that.

Nope. In fact, I bet SFV will actively patch games so that you always see an opponent's alt costume if they have one, even if you don't.

 

[shinobi602]

Im pretty sure 99% of the straight males on gaf love the female form as much as you do. Not all of us want it shoved tastelessly in our faces at every possible turn though. Like in a fighting game such as SFV with costumes as embarassing as these ones.

Its a matter of different views really, enjoy it all you want but understand that this type of fanservice is not at all liked by a sizable part of the gaming community (women and men alike).

Again, I understand it's a matter of different views, exactly as I said in my post. I specifically mentioned it actually. My point of contention is that sexually appealing characters (women mostly) are specifically pandering to 'teenage boys', which I find to be disingenuous and not based on anything really except the claimant's only personal taste.

 

[Gbraga]

And I was all set to make a witty reply, too.



Nope. In fact, I bet SFV will actively patch games so that you always see an opponent's alt costume if they have one, even if you don't.

Without a doubt. They need to tempt you into buying them, it'll most likely be their main source of income for several years, after all.

 

[YianGaruga]

Without a doubt. They need to tempt you into buying them, it'll most likely be their main source of income for several years, after all.

You can disable individual costumes...

but only if you buy it

 

[Mik317]

we all know Urien is going to be hella covered up and the rage from that will blot out the sun.

because Capcom

 

[Gbraga]

You can disable individual costumes...

but only if you buy it

Hahahaha, that's just evil.

 

[Garlador]

You see this is my big issue here. People go on and on about how they want equality (which is great and fuck anyone who says anyway) but it really feels like what the real issue is that they aren't the group being catered to so in retaliation things are called sexist or their creators are called sleazy losers and shit. Which is unfair really.

... People go on and on about equality... and we don't have it. We still don't have it. There is no equality. There is inequality. And sexist, fanservice, pandering, female exploitation in the video game industry IS a big problem, remains a big problem, and is a problem that is in many, many video games.

... And, yes, that includes Street Fighter V.

Whenever you "cater" to a group and marginalize and exclude someone else, like women, you reinforce the sexist culture that resulted in morons in the fighting game community once proudly stating that sexual harassment was "part of our culture".

I personally think most of the MKX designs are boring.

"Boring" or "not sexualized"?

Because the designs are anything but "boring". There are centuries-old ninja cowboys, elemental lightning gods, midget girls riding muscle-bound beast-men, insect swarm queens, acid spitting reptile creatures, demonic tattooed sorcerers, etc. Most of them have very creative designs.

Not that the previous ones were amazing and such but these feel very sterile and like they didn't come from actual creativity but to appease the current climate (not a bad thing mind you). Its boring to me.

They're more "covered up", but you really don't think THIS is still "sexy"?

Beyond that, the animation, voice work, and personalities of the characters are SO much stronger than they were "back in the good ol' days". Characters like Cassie are sassy and witty and charming, while Kitana is haughty and condescending, while Sonya is stern and mission-driven, while Mileena is indignant and petulant, all with flair and little touches that make them far more engaging and interesting than their original portrayals ever did.

So I just probably will never play or get into MKX..which is fine.

So, you won't play MKX because the girls don't show enough skin? Despite great gameplay, a robust story mode, loads of great extra content and unlockables, etc? No, it's because the sexy girls (that do show off a lot of skin) don't show off ENOUGH skin? Like, is there a quotient of clothes-to-skin that determines if you'll play MKX or other fighting games?

I'm however not asking for Ed Boon to listen to me and make the game for me..and if he doesn't he's obviously the opposite of a sleazy basement dwelling masterbator (like serious can we stop with this shit please?). I just will play games that do appeal to me.

There is NOTHING WRONG with asking a developer for something. ASK! Friggin' ASK! Turns out, a lot of them listen, care about their players, and appreciate feedback. It's how games improve, evolve, and mature.

And they took the feedback from the last game, MK9, and heard from a lot of their players that the women looked ridiculous. Myself included. My fiance included. Turns out, you know what, even women play Mortal Kombat games and them saying "can Sonya Blade not look like a hooker" isn't an unreasonable request that should make or break the franchise.

And MKX outsold MK9. Turns out Sonya Blade's boob flesh wasn't as important as some people thought after all.

These threads are often full of people who are basically telling people what they should like (both "sides"). If you don't find it sexy...cool. That is more than fine. But those who do like the designs aren't exactly sexual deviant losers. You not liking the design doesn't make you a better human being than the dude who does...and vice versa. Liking something shouldn't automatically say something about your character or not.

And sometimes it DOES.

That doesn't mean I'm a prude that hates sexy women or hates sex (I love both), but there's also this little thing called CONTEXT. It's like how a woman in a swimsuit on the beach is not "sexist", but a designer creating a female character and sending her into battle wearing nothing but a swimsuit in a fight to the death is, because they're not wearing clothes either appropriate to the situation or appropriate to the established character traits they possess. Sonya Blade in MK9 has a personality at odds with her attire, for instance. The way she's written, I don't believe she'd wake up that day and choose to wear that outfit. MKX, however, fits her much, MUCH better.

This isn't about trying to "shame" anyone into not liking what they like, but you can like something AND acknowledge that demeaning, sexualized, exploitative content can be both attractive AND damaging at the same time. Sex sells, after all, no matter how sleazy it is, and there are people out there (LOTS of them) that enjoy the sleazy stuff. They pay for it. It's their guilty pleasure and they cling to it, even as it presents a distorted, warped, dishonest, and even ugly view of how society views and treats women.

So, yeah, you know what? Dead or Alive's stripper pole dances are hot. They turn me on. And I also think they shouldn't be in the game, that they're degrading and sleazy and sexist. BOTH of these things can be true. Arousal doesn't mean I must intrinsically must support the things that press my buttons.

Just like I probably wouldn't like my wife wearing some "special" outfits we have out in public. There's a time, there's a place. I love my wife, and I love her in that outfit, but that doesn't mean I want her to wear it everywhere.

Its really funny to read the same basic argument used against the whole damn medium. Remember when Videogames totally made you into people who shoot up schools and shit? Yeah, it was pretty stupid to lump everyone together then...so why are we doing this now?

Because almost nobody statistically will play a game and shoot up a school.

But you know what has happened to EVERY girl I know that plays games? They've been sexually and verbally harassed. They've been threatened. They've been demeaned. They've been objectified. They've been demeaned and reduced to less than a person. They've been stalked. A few I know have been raped. Even when it's not that extreme, not a single solitary girl I know has experienced life without someone reducing them to the level of "sex object".

Because, unlike violent games and school shootings, sexism in society is rampant, on-going, and DEEPLY ingrained in our culture and society, and it's frustrating, damn annoying, and it's absolutely reinforced time and time again in our video games.

You shouldn't have to watch an episode of Feminist Frequency to learn that.

let people like (and dislike) what they like (or dislike).

That's fine and dandy until what people "like" spills over into behavior and real life, or how video games almost unanimously cater to what "you like" and almost rarely to what the other side "likes". You can practically count the games that don't sexualize women at all on one hand. There is no shortage of games that "you like" with sexy, stripperific women in them. We're practically tripping over them.

And do it without this weird "holier than thou" attitude people seem to have. Liking Laura's outfit doesn't mean you live in you mothers basement. It doesn't mean Capcom are full of sexist morons.

No, but inversely it can be criticized without someone being called "holier than thou".

It means you like the damn design because it is pleasing to your eyes and that Capcom felt the same damn way.

Nudity is pleasing to my eyes too, but that doesn't mean it's always appropriate or belongs. Saying it's "pleasing" is not a catch-all excuse or a legitimate rebuttal to criticism.

Just like not liking the design doesn't make you a prude who secretly hates women or some dumb ass shit. It really should be this hard to have a decent conversation without the name calling guys.

It'll always be hard to have this conversation because you always have people on extremes. To have a "decent conversation" means you have to have "decent" people having the conversation, but as much as I'd like to believe in the good of humanity, I'm not naive enough to believe there aren't an overwhelming number of sexist, angry, and impotent guys out there that get offended at the mere HINT that the hobby they enjoy is built on the backs of sexualized and exploited female characters, just as there are people who feel that any sexuality portrayed whatsoever is a step back for women's rights.

... But, honestly, the scales tip in favor of the sexist, pig-headed men of the world FAR more than the craziest feminists.

And the industry absolutely reflects this truth. To deny it is, well, ignorance.

 

[Lyte Edge]

But I just don't get the appeal of shoving as much sexual stuff into a game that should be as family friendly as SF. Play SF2 WW. It's pretty family friendly.

A game where you beat the shit out of each other is family friendly? I don't recall it being something that the whole family gather around to play in 1991. It was a mega-popular arcade game dominated by teenagers and 20-somethings at the time. And Capcom always had Chun-Li's panties in full view.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Or you can just mod it out.

As I just modded out Adon's existence.

Spoiler

jk but for real, fuck Adon.

 

[Alchemist]

By the way, here's a video of most of the alts.

Source

Thanks for posting. The costumes look way better in motion.

 

[Gbraga]

Or you can just mod it out.

As I just modded out Adon's existence.

Spoiler

jk but for real, fuck Adon.

Banana Adon

God damn, Rashid is an attractive dude, man.

Just accept the sexy. Do it.

But he's so fucking annoying, flying all over the screen, I hate these characters so much TT_TT

 

[Banana Aeon]

For some reason I'm in love with Rashid(OOOO)'s alt. I want to hate him, but I can't.

I swear, his theme will end up making me play him.

God damn, Rashid is an attractive dude, man.

Just accept the sexy. Do it.

Banana Adon

😡

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

Cindi will you marry me?

Marry me. Put a fucking ring on it right NOW.

A game where you beat the shit out of each other is family friendly? I don't recall it being something that the whole family gather around to play in 1991. It was a mega-popular arcade game dominated by teenagers and 20-somethings at the time. And Capcom always had Chun-Li's panties in full view.

I played it with my dad, cousins;etc. regularly. I dunno, it's how it felt to me. The movie even confirms how I felt. It felt like something for everybody to me and SF2 still does to this day.

 

[Mesoian]

You can disable individual costumes...

but only if you buy it

Devious!

 

[pizzacat]

Man the "ladies" of mk look like they're wearing mad max cars

 

[Springy]

.

A salient, very well written argument.

 

[Astarte]

Boy I'm sure liking these attractive costumes
I was hoping for something more flashy with Karin, but I guess I'll have to wait to get my all gold everything costume.

 

[Razzorn34]

By the way, here's a video of most of the alts.

Source

Looks like Karin was smart enough to pack shorts.

 

[lucebuce12]

Seriously though, check the video posted above. Bison looks so Damn Boss in that pre-order costume, definitely my favourite costume so far.

 

[YianGaruga]

Never liked MK designs at all. They're all ugly to me. And the violence is too much.

I could go and complain and analyze, but I just don't play the game and move on! easy

 

[Lyte Edge]

I just think it's funny that MKX toned down the skin (well, more the proportions) but remains incredibly gory. You know, wouldn't want to offend while ripping your head off! lol.

Back then they were EDIT: 2d sprites, so its kinda hard to match the level of detail when it comes to sexuality in games these days

I think you're forgetting how some of those games were back then. Bouncing breasts (and butts) and ridiculous upskirt/crotch shots all originated back with the sprite-based fighting games in the 90s.

Look for sprite rips or just pull out an old Gamefan if you have one and you'll see what I mean.

 

[rocK`]

Don't want to step on anyone's toes, I edited it out. But that was pretty much my point.
It's just an outfit. The view that it makes the game less family friendly is problematic itself.

That's a really...really.. ridiculous thing to say

 

[PtM]

...

Wow. Preach it. Good write-up.

 

[george_us]

By the way, here's a video of most of the alts.

Source

Lara's alt looks nice in motion. Almost looks like something you'd wear to the beach covering a swim suit.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Nudity is pleasing to my eyes too, but that doesn't mean it's always appropriate or belongs. Saying it's "pleasing" is not a catch-all excuse or a legitimate rebuttal to criticism.

Hang on. That's up to the people making the game-- it's their "creative vison" to have it look the way it does. And that's also why a rating system is in place.

 

[YianGaruga]

That's a really...really.. ridiculous thing to say

Kind of hard to respond to that unless you explain what you mean.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Never liked MK designs at all. They're all ugly to me.

I could go and complain and analyze, but I just don't play the game and move on! easy

as we all know, things have always gotten better by just ignoring them

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I dunno man, how can you hate a game with a wasp woman made up of insects

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

In my case. Ive always felt Any poc represents me. I identified with balrog. I identified with laura. I identified even with dhalsim. Heck even mexican characters with the pancho.To me just having a person of color or speaking my language even if they were white was representative. At extreme cases i can even be represented as a westerner by white people in asian works. I guess because i wasnt born in the us i have a different take of the aspect of representation. I know and respect those expectations like cindis because every person is different. The only thing that irks me is when people start saying you arent this or arent that when they arent from that culture or been exposed to it or try to apply their specific to their area issues across cultural boundaries. When people were saying laura wasnt brazilian or black or latina it irked me cause its indirectly saying people like me or my family who looks like her arent who they are. Our identity tarnished by well meaning motiffs.



Shes doa she doesnt count!

Yeah, I have to say it miffs me a little how white/caucasian and asian characters in animation can run the full gamut of features. For them, the sky is the limit in terms of what they can be. But for black people in particular, you better watch the fuck out because they can only be black if they meet a particular set of tight criteria, where as white and asian characters do not suffer from this limitation. Abstraction of features means that fictional animated characters do not need to perfectly or at all emulate any real world human or fulfill whatever set of racial stereotypical features any one person purports as representative of the "true" black/insert other ethnicity here.

 

[HappyPuppy]

By the way, here's a video of most of the alts.

Source

Cool!
I really liked Rashid alt, he is a handsome guy. Wish birdie didn't have a flabby gut, but they went with the whole glutton angle. Food gives him power! Would prefer if his gut was firmer since he works out.

Anyone know how to get Hot Ryu if you are playing on the Pc?

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

By the way, here's a video of most of the alts.

Source

Oh cool. I got to put my head down a bit for Laura's shirt having "Bonita" on it.

Rashid's looking the bomb. Karin's is too similar to her reg for me.

 

[HardRojo]

Lara's alt looks nice in motion. Almost looks like something you'd wear to the beach covering a swim suit.

I guess that's what they were going for... except she's wearing nothing below her shirt.

 

[YianGaruga]

as we all know, things have always gotten better by just ignoring them

It's not bad, objectively. There are tons of people who like it. I don't.

I don't need to force my taste on others.

 

[Banana Aeon]

I dunno man, how can you hate a game with a wasp woman made up of insects

She is like the first MK design that I thought was cool.

MK designs are like Blazblue level terrible.

 

[lucebuce12]

Anyone know how to get Hot Ryu if you are playing on the Pc?

I believe Hot Ryu is only available if you pre-order from Gamestop, not sure if it's available for the PC version.

It'll most likely be available separately for purchase and maybe even be an unlockable in a few months after release.

 

[Basketball]

Man the "ladies" of mk look like they're wearing mad max cars

Yeah the animations in the game are great but the outfits and boxy designs are trash

but I don't think NRS knows how to design female characters from bodytypes to outfit designs compared to Tekken/SF/Kof etc

in MKX the women are oddly short (Weird female hitboxes are a thing in the game)

Cassie looks so weird in her fighting stance, very boxy looking ladies especially the ninja twins. Everyone's face in the game has this melted look even before the fight begins.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Not too hot on Gief and Mika's 'broski' alts. They look a little too plain.

 

[george_us]

I guess that's what they were going for... except she's wearing nothing below her shirt.

Hey topless/nude beaches exist!

Cammy's alt is the only one that looks dumb. A winter coat and some panties? Really?

 

[Mesoian]

... People go on and on about equality... and we don't have it. We still don't have it. There is no equality. There is inequality. And sexist, fanservice, pandering, female exploitation in the video game industry IS a big problem, remains a big problem, and is a problem that is in many, many video games.

... And, yes, that includes Street Fighter V.

Whenever you "cater" to a group and marginalize and exclude someone else, like women, you reinforce the sexist culture that resulted in morons in the fighting game community once proudly stating that sexual harassment was "part of our culture".


"Boring" or "not sexualized"?

Because the designs are anything but "boring". There are centuries-old ninja cowboys, elemental lightning gods, midget girls riding muscle-bound beast-men, insect swarm queens, acid spitting reptile creatures, demonic tattooed sorcerers, etc. Most of them have very creative designs.


They're more "covered up", but you really don't think THIS is still "sexy"?


Beyond that, the animation, voice work, and personalities of the characters are SO much stronger than they were "back in the good ol' days". Characters like Cassie are sassy and witty and charming, while Kitana is haughty and condescending, while Sonya is stern and mission-driven, while Mileena is indignant and petulant, all with flair and little touches that make them far more engaging and interesting than their original portrayals ever did.


So, you won't play MKX because the girls don't show enough skin? Despite great gameplay, a robust story mode, loads of great extra content and unlockables, etc? No, it's because the sexy girls (that do show off a lot of skin) don't show off ENOUGH skin? Like, is there a quotient of clothes-to-skin that determines if you'll play MKX or other fighting games?


There is NOTHING WRONG with asking a developer for something. ASK! Friggin' ASK! Turns out, a lot of them listen, care about their players, and appreciate feedback. It's how games improve, evolve, and mature.

And they took the feedback from the last game, MK9, and heard from a lot of their players that the women looked ridiculous. Myself included. My fiance included. Turns out, you know what, even women play Mortal Kombat games and them saying "can Sonya Blade not look like a hooker" isn't an unreasonable request that should make or break the franchise.

And MKX outsold MK9. Turns out Sonya Blade's boob flesh wasn't as important as some people thought after all.


And sometimes it DOES.

That doesn't mean I'm a prude that hates sexy women or hates sex (I love both), but there's also this little thing called CONTEXT. It's like how a woman in a swimsuit on the beach is not "sexist", but a designer creating a female character and sending her into battle wearing nothing but a swimsuit in a fight to the death is, because they're not wearing clothes either appropriate to the situation or appropriate to the established character traits they possess. Sonya Blade in MK9 has a personality at odds with her attire, for instance. The way she's written, I don't believe she'd wake up that day and choose to wear that outfit. MKX, however, fits her much, MUCH better.

This isn't about trying to "shame" anyone into not liking what they like, but you can like something AND acknowledge that demeaning, sexualized, exploitative content can be both attractive AND damaging at the same time. Sex sells, after all, no matter how sleazy it is, and there are people out there (LOTS of them) that enjoy the sleazy stuff. They pay for it. It's their guilty pleasure and they cling to it, even as it presents a distorted, warped, dishonest, and even ugly view of how society views and treats women.

So, yeah, you know what? Dead or Alive's stripper pole dances are hot. They turn me on. And I also think they shouldn't be in the game, that they're degrading and sleazy and sexist. BOTH of these things can be true. Arousal doesn't mean I must intrinsically must support the things that press my buttons.

Just like I probably wouldn't like my wife wearing some "special" outfits we have out in public. There's a time, there's a place. I love my wife, and I love her in that outfit, but that doesn't mean I want her to wear it everywhere.


Because almost nobody statistically will play a game and shoot up a school.

But you know what has happened to EVERY girl I know that plays games? They've been sexually and verbally harassed. They've been threatened. They've been demeaned. They've been objectified. They've been demeaned and reduced to less than a person. They've been stalked. A few I know have been raped. Even when it's not that extreme, not a single solitary girl I know has experienced life without someone reducing them to the level of "sex object".

Because, unlike violent games and school shootings, sexism in society is rampant, on-going, and DEEPLY ingrained in our culture and society, and it's frustrating, damn annoying, and it's absolutely reinforced time and time again in our video games.

You shouldn't have to watch an episode of Feminist Frequency to learn that.


That's fine and dandy until what people "like" spills over into behavior and real life, or how video games almost unanimously cater to what "you like" and almost rarely to what the other side "likes". You can practically count the games that don't sexualize women at all on one hand. There is no shortage of games that "you like" with sexy, stripperific women in them. We're practically tripping over them.


No, but inversely it can be criticized without someone being called "holier than thou".


Nudity is pleasing to my eyes too, but that doesn't mean it's always appropriate or belongs. Saying it's "pleasing" is not a catch-all excuse or a legitimate rebuttal to criticism.


It'll always be hard to have this conversation because you always have people on extremes. To have a "decent conversation" means you have to have "decent" people having the conversation, but as much as I'd like to believe in the good of humanity, I'm not naive enough to believe there aren't an overwhelming number of sexist, angry, and impotent guys out there that get offended at the mere HINT that the hobby they enjoy is built on the backs of sexualized and exploited female characters, just as there are people who feel that any sexuality portrayed whatsoever is a step back for women's rights.

... But, honestly, the scales tip in favor of the sexist, pig-headed men of the world FAR more than the craziest feminists.

And the industry absolutely reflects this truth. To deny it is, well, ignorance.

 

[DannyDanger]

... People go on and on about equality... and we don't have it. We still don't have it. There is no equality. There is inequality. And sexist, fanservice, pandering, female exploitation in the video game industry IS a big problem, remains a big problem, and is a problem that is in many, many video games.

But street fighter has half-naked men too...

 

[SoRuffShoNuff]

Wait so Chun and Cammy have two alts while the other females only have one at the moment. As a man for equality I will not be satisfied until Laura, R. Mika, and Karin have another sexy outfit shown.

 

[lucebuce12]

Wait so Chun and Cammy have two alts while the other females only have one at the moment. As a man for equality I will not be satisfied until Laura, R. Mika, and Karin have another sexy outfit shown.

To be fait, that Chun and Cammy is only for pre-orders (right now anyway)

and there are 2 male pre-order costumes which are also amazing (Hot Ryu and Boss Bison)

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Wait so Chun and Cammy have two alts while the other females only have one at the moment. As a man for equality I will not be satisfied until Laura, R. Mika, and Karin have another sexy outfit shown.

Screw that. Mika without a mask, a hoodie, jeans, and sunglasses. Done.

 

[Crocodile]

At the end of the day, I'm sure not going to co-sign his MK comments but I think Mik317's main point was that tone and word choice are the reasons these discussions usually go askew and we should be careful with them? I don't think he has any issues with criticism.

I just think it's funny that MKX toned down the skin (well, more the proportions) but remains incredibly gory. You know, wouldn't want to offend while ripping your head off! lol.

I think you're forgetting how some of those games were back then. Bouncing breasts (and butts) and ridiculous upskirt/crotch shots all originated back with the sprite-based fighting games in the 90s.

Look for sprite rips or just pull out an old Gamefan if you have one and you'll see what I mean.

I want to say its because that's what MK always sold itself on but then again it sold itself on sex too so........*shrug* I dunno, as someone who works at a medical school and thus I work with actual cadavers and various human body parts, the grotesqueness of the MK series always bothered me and still does. But people lap that up without issue so whatever.

as we all know, things have always gotten better by just ignoring them

Worked for ending Slave.......
Worked for Voting Ri......
Worked for Civil .......
Worked for .........................

 

[Banana Aeon]

But street fighter has half-naked men too...

Naked men aren't arousing tho.

Spoiler

The banana hammock cometh. Hopefully with dongle physics.

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

But street fighter has half-naked men too...

What some guys don't understand is that women don't always think like men in terms of what's arousing. Just because a male character is half naked doesn't mean he's being sexualized. Just because I see a half naked buff guy doesn't mean I'm going to turn into a puddle.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Heaven help me I dislike Laura's english voice so much

Man, Bearded Slim is so dope

She is like the first MK design that I thought was cool.

MK designs are like Blazblue level terrible.

I wish I could argue with you it's too hard