NipplesAndToes23
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I can't lie though, sometimes I switched Sakura to English because I thought that voice sounded hilarious.
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Officer Chun-Li costume spotted in latest SFV beta, also some other lame costumes
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I can't lie though, sometimes I switched Sakura to English because I thought that voice sounded hilarious.
GotchaForce
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Did the original SF4 have alt outfits day one?
I like most of these even if they're not (all) outlandish but they got several years to add more craziness. I mean that in a nonsexual way, too. Chun HKP is sexy enough for me, I don't need TNA shoved into my face in every media ever I consume. I'd rather have a game that speaks to more people.
I like most of these even if they're not (all) outlandish but they got several years to add more craziness. I mean that in a nonsexual way, too. Chun HKP is sexy enough for me, I don't need TNA shoved into my face in every media ever I consume. I'd rather have a game that speaks to more people.
igordennis
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You do know there are billions of people in the world right? Saying millions of people are sick of sexist bullshit is the least outlandish thing to say that i can think of.
That noise she makes when she gets hit is Hanna barbara cartoon lol
Cindi Mayweather
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I agree. 100.
Yep but it's pretty much been like this.
February 17, 2009 (North America); February 20, 2009 (Europe): Brawler Pack including alternate costumes for: Zangief, E. Honda, Rufus, El Fuerte, and Abel.
February 24, 2009 (North America); February 27, 2009 (Europe): Femme Fatale Pack including alternate costumes for: Chun-Li, Cammy, Sakura, Rose, and C.Viper.
March 3, 2009 (North America); March 6, 2009 (Europe): Shoryuken Pack including alternate costumes for: Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Gouken, and Dan.
March 10, 2009 (North America); March 13, 2009 (Europe): Shadaloo Pack including alternate costumes for: Seth, M. Bison, Sagat, Balrog, and Vega.
March 17, 2009 (North America); March 20, 2009 (Europe): Classic Pack including alternate costumes for: Guile, Dhalsim, Fei-Long, Blanka, and Gen.
That's just base SF4 though.
Going by that metric is kind of pointless. You could also say millions are sick of videogames when you include the entire human species.
Karin still the best and classiest.
Millions are.
Hopefully developers continue to stick with their vision (if they want to sexualize characters, not have minorities being represented on their game, etc... it's their call), despite what people on the internet protest.
And hopefully, people that protest start to boycott games that don't share their vision or just not buy them, to show the industry that they need to start considering these things going forward.
And hopefully, people that protest start to boycott games that don't share their vision or just not buy them, to show the industry that they need to start considering these things going forward.
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Vlaphor
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Except that we were talking in the context of video games, which has nowhere near a billion players worldwide generally. If they did, the number one selling console of all time would've moved a lot more than 150 million units. In that context, from what I've seen on both sides, it's more of a case loud minorities who get heard.
Gamergate: Loud minority
People who are actively sick of sexualized portrayals in video games: Loud minority
These are the people who get heard, those who are fine with the way people are portrayed in video games right now aren't really setting up video's to say so, except as a response.
Anyway, as for the alts, I think they all look great, but I'd understand if some people didn't like them. While it is impossible to please everyone, my recommendation would be to allow you to toggle which costumes you see and which you don't. That way, everyone gets what they want.
Gotta be honest. I hope when Sakura comes back, her VA has some improvement.
igordennis
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Exactly. Which is why his disbelief that "millions of people are tired of that shit" and the fact that he felt the need to correct "millions" to "some" is so ridiculous.
Edit: even if we confined it to gaming, the gaming community has hundreds and hundreds of millions of people. "Millions" being tired of sexist bullshit continues to be the least outlandish thing to say that i can think of.
Grown up burnt out Salarywoman Sakura is gonna be great
Already Torn
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Woah Sakura had one of the better English VA. She's like the anti-Juri.
GotchaForce
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Ok, I remember Marvel 3 doing the same thing (small dlc outfits over time). I hope all of these are day 1 and you can unlock them in game. Since they have dlc characters dripping out I doubt they need to string outfits along the same way. I wonder if SFV will get alt filters like the pencil and ink that SF4.
Wildarmsjecht
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I wish I can get my hands on this game sooner.
This is awesome.
This is awesome.
Banana Aeon
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I'm not going to say it's a bad game, but it's super heavy and it feels really stiff. It's easily my least favorite GG.
That's true.
Let's just say most of the english female VA's had problems. To be fair, so did most of the English male VAs.
Vlaphor
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I don't know where I saw this, or if I'm just imagining it (maybe it was a background joke of some Udon comic), but I seem to vaguely grown up Sakura working in the same law firm as Phoenix Wright. Again, don't quote me on that, but it is a vague memory in my mind.
"Many" and "Millions" carry vastly different connotations. I'm not saying that there aren't many people out there who dislike fanservice, but we need to keep things into perspective if there's any hope of an actual conversation taking place other than just the personal sniping that these types of threads always devolve into.
DannyDanger
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Ok, i feel like we're going in circles here so i'm going to just finish with this
If we're talking about PURELY physical sexualisation... I believe both genders are getting it in THIS case
I know SOME, men/women like physically attractive, half naked men/women, and nudity in general. (i.e. strippers, models, etc.)
I am not telling you what you like, or that you're tastes in men are wrong... but conversely i disagree with the notion that you can somehow tell me the exact intent of the developer had in mind when he created this characters
That's literally you saying, you're not a woman so you can't say what we like, BUT i'm a woman and i can tell you what men like
Both genders have characters being PHYSICALLY sexualized. And as i said, this was a discussion about the costumes, so i assumed the sexualization we were referring to in THIS case, was physical sexualization
DryEyeRelief
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I can't wait for HOT dhalsim
He'll be on fire
In the context of Garlador's post, I vehemently disagree. What changes when substituting those words other than impact and emphasis? The meaning is identical. Your heightened focus on it is really puzzling me as it takes nothing from his argument. In fact, this is the primary contributor to "sniping" taking place here now.
lucebuce12
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The puns are too much for me to handle.
dragonzdogma
Member
Gaf/Capcom don't shoot me please.
Are the ALT costumes free? Or did someone find them inside the game and capcom will try to sell them later? I've heard that all content would be free tho if you play the game?
could anyone help me catch up on the latest regarding this ^
Are the ALT costumes free? Or did someone find them inside the game and capcom will try to sell them later? I've heard that all content would be free tho if you play the game?
could anyone help me catch up on the latest regarding this ^
Vlaphor
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Millions = Most people dislike this and it needs to end now
Many = This is a topic of discussion, but not a feeling held by the majority. Still, alternatives and ways to address these issues are worth looking into.
Okay, you're purposefully trying to take attention away from the actual argument. Got it.
Not even mentioning the alarming fact that you think if a minority objects it devalues their objection.
It seems like those costumes will be story related and purchasable with in-game currency.
Ya but only a few million people at most are the core audiences that would buy SFV. It may not be big overlap with the anti-sexy group.
Banana Aeon
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Vlaphor
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Didn't say it devalued the objection. Said that a few people disliking something doesn't mean everyone dislikes something. Their objections are still worth looking into for a way to make them happy.
The golden age of comics
Cindi Mayweather
Member
Interpreting sexualization and the developers intent is easy. It's in your face at all times. You can see Laura's ass cheeks, underboob, her knockdown state is sexualized, and I think you even see her camel toe. There's nothing subtle about this and there's no way to misinterpret the developers intentions. Out of female characters so far, all of them except Karin are sexualized to a degree. Yet most of the male characters are ugly. Only Hot Ryu and arguably Vega has been overtly sexualized, and only Hot Ryu like the girls. So don't give me this "equality" diatribe. It's insulting to my intelligence.
Let's play a game!
What's sexualized?
dragonzdogma
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lucebuce12
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Trickster
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Vlaphor
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Also, it's been removed. The jiggle videos are people backporting the costumes to the beta which still had it.
This raises an important question. Where can I see Laura's alt 2p selection screen?
Cindi Mayweather
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Banana Aeon
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Vlaphor
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...with the jiggle glitch. For science.
Cindi Mayweather
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Disliking the costumes doesn't mean you're in the anti-sexy or equality or ethics in video games or w/e the fuck crowd. IDGAF about any of that. Excessive titties and ass for no reason other than to just have them to raise some dicks/extra $$$ can definitely hurt the perception of this game in the greater gaming audience. If you overdo it you become like DOA. Also, little kids played SF in the arcades/on their SNES and I would hope this game remains suitable for that age group, too.
lucebuce12
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That video does have the jiggle. Check out 5:06 for proof.
I guess maybe it just bugged out?
dragonzdogma
Member
Who said anything about morality?
Exactly my point....It's all about the user experience.