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Official 2005 NBA Playoffs thread! Now with 100% less Kobe!

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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Dumb Alonzo.. dumb, dumb, dumb.... and just like that the lead is back to 8.

Wow and the jumpers that Wade was hitting the other night? Gone.
 

SKluck

Banned
Zo picks up #3, good call though.

Rip is back, thank god. Chauncey is self-destructing.

Flagrant on Haslem... I don't know about that. Changed to a tech, stupid stupid call.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Haslem got whored that wasn't a hard foul IMO...but hey... gotta play through em.

Wha? Wow looking at the replay I don't know what it was...

Wow Billups with the clock winding down way out 3.

Wade is cold, cold, cold.
 

Pimpwerx

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Flagrant? AAAAAHHHHH!!! A fucking tech? Jesus Christ. This is fucking ridiculous. In the second half, the refs need to get their shit together. The flow of this game is pathetic. One foul after another. This is the goddamn playoffs. Let them play. Ugh, and the Pustons back up by 12. :( This is not a good first half. PEACE.

EDIT: Points in the paint, Wade. Poor shot selection like Game 1 all over again. SVG has to talk to him at halftime. Get his head on right again. Pass the fucking ball, setup good looks. This is why we need to run the offense through Shaq, which is why he needs to stay out of foul trouble. We need to close it to within 10 for halftime. That's the least amount of famage we can hope for.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Pistons do a great job re-establishing their lead... Hamilton and Billups are hummin tonight... <sigh> not a good half for the Heat at all.. foul trouble limited their effectiveness.... now... do you bring Shaq out immediately or do you sit him to start the 3rd quarter?

Hard decisions to be made.
 

SKluck

Banned
I just realized the Pistons have 60 pts :lol wtf.

And Miami shot more ft even.

:lol @ Rip beating his Playoff avg in 1 half.

Great great support from the bench for the Pistons. Too bad they are all gonna get ditched when the season ends :lol.

17 asts and 0 turnovers. Crazy crazy. Billups needs to calm the fuck down though. He's hitting big 3's but he's being very very passive other than mouthing off.
 

Cloudy

Banned
So is Wade his own worst enemy, or did the Pistons forget how to guard him in 2 and 3?

I can't believe they waited till game 4 to put a fast guy on him fulltime. It's not like they used Tay on AI and Wade isn't much slower than that dude :lol
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
SKluck said:
I just realized the Pistons have 60 pts :lol wtf.

And Miami shot more ft I think.

They might have shot more FT's but their shooting % is problem in the cellar right now... ugh I want to see all of this game but I have to be up at 5am tomorrow....
 

SKluck

Banned
Cloudy said:
I can't believe they waited till game 4 to put a fast guy on him fulltime. It's not like they used Tay on AI and Wade isn't much slower than that dude :lol

Tay has been saying for like a week now "I'm too slow for him!" practically begging for someone else to guard him :lol. Tayshaun is great, but he's not fast. If anything he is slow and decieves people with his slowness :lol.

Pistons have taken 12 more shots than Miami, but then again they shot like 20 more than Miami the other day :lol

If the theory holds true, Pistons will have an easy ride to 90, and the win.
 

Pimpwerx

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1. Wade...if you take another long jumper, I'm gonna fucking kill you. When the shot is falling, that's fine. But when you miss like 7 shots in a row, all jumpers, then that tells you to fucking stop. Ugh. SVG doesn't do enough to reign him in at times like this. You strap a leash on his ass and tell him if he Kobes this game away again, he's not playing in Game 5. There are other players on this team. Give them a chance to get involved.

2. Shaq...that last foul was bullshit, but when you get a foul in the opening minutes, that tells your big, dumb ass to take it easy. He say out most of the first half. The most important player on our teams needs to be on the court. Ditto for Zo. You can't run Twin Towers when both your guys are in foul trouble from the first half. Jesus, this is compromising our strategy.

3. REBOUND REBOUND REBOUND! Break out the Balmer dance, SVG. We look like idiots just standing around as Detroit outrebounds us on both ends of the court. Detroit can try all sorts of difficult shots b/c they know there's a better than 50% chance they'll come up with the board. It's about hustling to the whistle. How many out of bounds saves have Detroit gotten b/c they hustle? This is the entire series I'm talking about here. REBOUND GODDAMMIT. And when you rebound, hold onto the fucking board. Zo has either been stripped, or fumbled away a good five boards. Embarassing. Haslem is the only rebounder worth a damn right not, and he's got one bad hand. This just shouldn't be happening.

Now Detroit is hitting their shots, but we're just playing like garbage. Taking shitty shots on offense, and not getting any second looks. And they we're giving up offensive boards galore on the other end so Detroit just plugs away until it falls in. And then the fouls. We just need to play smarter.

Shaq gets a touch from the first play in the 3rd. He gets a touch everytime down the court. He's also gotta work harder to get a good post position. Don't try these 8-footers, get in the paint. I think SVG should give Butler a chance on the perimeter. That or run a couple plays to give DJ some looks from 3. If he can get hot, he can be more productive. He's not getting many chances this series. OK, time to get another beer. PEACE.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
Pimpwerx said:
1. Wade...if you take another long jumper, I'm gonna fucking kill you. When the shot is falling, that's fine. But when you miss like 7 shots in a row, all jumpers, then that tells you to fucking stop. Ugh. SVG doesn't do enough to reign him in at times like this. You strap a leash on his ass and tell him if he Kobes this game away again, he's not playing in Game 5. There are other players on this team. Give them a chance to get involved.

2. Shaq...that last foul was bullshit, but when you get a foul in the opening minutes, that tells your big, dumb ass to take it easy. He say out most of the first half. The most important player on our teams needs to be on the court. Ditto for Zo. You can't run Twin Towers when both your guys are in foul trouble from the first half. Jesus, this is compromising our strategy.

3. REBOUND REBOUND REBOUND! Break out the Balmer dance, SVG. We look like idiots just standing around as Detroit outrebounds us on both ends of the court. Detroit can try all sorts of difficult shots b/c they know there's a better than 50% chance they'll come up with the board. It's about hustling to the whistle. How many out of bounds saves have Detroit gotten b/c they hustle? This is the entire series I'm talking about here. REBOUND GODDAMMIT. And when you rebound, hold onto the fucking board. Zo has either been stripped, or fumbled away a good five boards. Embarassing. Haslem is the only rebounder worth a damn right not, and he's got one bad hand. This just shouldn't be happening.

Now Detroit is hitting their shots, but we're just playing like garbage. Taking shitty shots on offense, and not getting any second looks. And they we're giving up offensive boards galore on the other end so Detroit just plugs away until it falls in. And then the fouls. We just need to play smarter.

Shaq gets a touch from the first play in the 3rd. He gets a touch everytime down the court. He's also gotta work harder to get a good post position. Don't try these 8-footers, get in the paint. I think SVG should give Butler a chance on the perimeter. That or run a couple plays to give DJ some looks from 3. If he can get hot, he can be more productive. He's not getting many chances this series. OK, time to get another beer. PEACE.

this has gotta be the longest in-game post of all-time.
 

SKluck

Banned
Pimpwerx said:
3. REBOUND REBOUND REBOUND! Break out the Balmer dance, SVG. We look like idiots just standing around as Detroit outrebounds us on both ends of the court. Detroit can try all sorts of difficult shots b/c they know there's a better than 50% chance they'll come up with the board. It's about hustling to the whistle. How many out of bounds saves have Detroit gotten b/c they hustle? This is the entire series I'm talking about here. REBOUND GODDAMMIT. And when you rebound, hold onto the fucking board. Zo has either been stripped, or fumbled away a good five boards. Embarassing. Haslem is the only rebounder worth a damn right not, and he's got one bad hand. This just shouldn't be happening.

DET 3 14 17
MIA 3 12 15

Dude what are you talking about?

All the Bigs in this game are getting owned on the fouls. Miami's big 2 have 3, All of Detroit's 4 have at least 2, Dice has 3.
 

strikeselect

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Yeah rebounding's not really the top priority right now. We're alright there.

Foul trouble is the main reason the Heat are down.

We haven't been able to run the offense through Shaq and as a result has disrupted the flow of our offense (including Wade).
 

Pimpwerx

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SKluck said:
DET 3 14 17
MIA 3 12 15

Dude what are you talking about?
Holy crap, it doesn't even look that close. Maybe they counted all the times Zo came up with the ball and then had it slapped right out of his hands. Like I said, it happened a good 5 times already. Can you tell that the rebounding has been this close? Detroit's been the ones controlling this game with their hustle. Maybe I'm watching a different game. Those stats don't seem right at all. :? PEACE.
 

SKluck

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Pimpwerx said:
Holy crap, it doesn't even look that close. Maybe they counted all the times Zo came up with the ball and then had it slapped right out of his hands. Like I said, it happened a good 5 times already. Can you tell that the rebounding has been this close? Detroit's been the ones controlling this game with their hustle. Maybe I'm watching a different game. Those stats don't seem right at all. :? PEACE.

It's the turnovers. Not so much as having them as not forcing ANY. Miami has NO defense right now, none. Detroit has the Heat on their heels, so Miami has gone soft.
 

DarienA

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Turnovers:

Miami: 6
Detroit: 0

and I'd go further and say that Detroit has probably converted off of all of those... that's 12 points.

And that's another example of Miami giving up on a play when the Pistons don't.

Wade starting to feel it and Rasheed sits down....
 

Pimpwerx

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PLAY TO THE FUCKING WHISTLE, YOU BITCHES! Detroit is beating us with heart. Miami plays like they expect shit to go their way sometimes. Play to the fucking whistle.

Wade with some wacky shots...if they fall I smile. If they don't, I snarl. I want him driving to the hoop, not fading away. Shaq getting a touch everytime down...that's what I'm talking about. Off to a better start in this 3rd. But I want us up going into the 4th, not trailing and struggling. Detroit goes on these points binges and the Heat falls asleep. We need to keep the pressure on. They're probably going to Rip coming out of this timeout. They better watch it. PEACE.
 

DarienA

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Heat chipping in to that lead... Detroit fans have gone quiet... 3 secs left... don't let them score!

No box out and Ben Wallace gets the rebound... and they turn around and score... stupid.

No argument there Shaq travelled.

Damn Haslem with the big time dunk.... the finger must not be hurting now...
 

DarienA

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Now Detroit has gone cold and Miami is coming like the devil on that ass....

Shaq's gotta sit down.. and that's too bad cause that's a bitch foul.
 

Pimpwerx

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Has there been a single quarter this series when Shaq hasn't been in foul trouble? Seriously, if he can give a full game against Detroit, it would be such a big boost. Anyway, we need to get the lead for the 4th. I see no reason why we need to be coming from behind the entire damn game. They showed the second-chance points advantage. That's how the rebounding looked to me. Detroit just outhustling us and making good on their chances. PEACE.
 

DarienA

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Wow I go to put my daughter down the lead is only what 5? I come back.. back up to 12...

So the 4th quarter lead is 10.... it's doable but Miami is going to have to fight ALL quarter for it... and dammit I gotta miss it... alright folks keep the back and forth goin. ;)
 

Pimpwerx

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This game is getting out of hand now. This is really frustrating. Shot selection...not very good. Shaq should be getting the first touch everytime down the fucking court. Wade's getting trapped, and trying to force it. Give it to Shaq, let him create the openings. PEACE.
 

strikeselect

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The early foul trouble screwed the Heat's offense right from the beginning.
That's the X-factor IMO
 

Pimpwerx

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Well, this game is pretty much over now. It's possible to make a comeback, but not with the garbage ball we've been playing all night.

I think we need to regroup for Game5. SVG should tell the big men that it's ok to concede some early dunks and early points. Stay the fuck out of foul trouble, having them on the court is more important. So what if they contest a few shots, but end up with early fouls and miss half the half? Give up a few easy buckets, but play for more minutes and get a chance to contest way more shots than they have tonight.

I'm not throwing in the towel by any means, but this has been a lesson in rebounding and hustle. I know we went over the stats already, but even TNT is pointing out the second-chance shots. Regardless of what the stats read, the Heat have been outhustled and simply outplayed. And it's always gonna be a fight to get points against this Detroit team. Let's see if we can maybe pull off a miracle in these last 5. DJ...I'm looking at you, son. :D PEACE.
 

strikeselect

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oh golly gee, yeah Dwyane let's drive to the basket and be aggressive with 2 MINUTES REMAINING.


should've been doing that the entire game
 

Cloudy

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I'm glad the Pistons are gonna win but I feel the refs screwed Miami's whole gameplan from the start with the bogus foul on Shaq. This is an empty victory :(
 

Pimpwerx

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Cloudy said:
I'm glad the Pistons are gonna win but I feel the refs screwed Miami's whole gameplan from the start with the bogus foul on Shaq. This is an empty victory :(
Don't even think about it. Someone ban this foo. PEACE.
 
Cloudy said:
I'm glad the Pistons are gonna win but I feel the refs screwed Miami's whole gameplan from the start with the bogus foul on Shaq. This is an empty victory :(
were we watching the same game?
the away team is getting jordan whistles on just about everything
 

Cloudy

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Besides Shaq being in foul trouble, Detroit hit their FTs, limited turnovers and didn't let the role players rack up points....
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
these refs so far this series aren't good. I'm not gonna blame any losses for anyone on refs, cuz I think that's a bullshit thing to do. I mean, if you're gonna lose because the refs suck, then you probably weren't playing good enough to win anyways. Sure it usually may cause a few points one way or the other, but ultimately, if you're depending on those 2 or 4 points that a ref cost you, then you haven't played well enough (in ANY sport) to warrant a win.

but yeah, my beef with these refs is that they're sooo inconsistent. They don't favor any team, which is good. Crawford is usually solid like that. But sometimes they'll call ANYTHING like its an old Bulls game, and othertimes they'll let the teams run and hack away like its an old Celtics/Pistons game from the 80's. I just wish they'd be consistent. If you're not gonna call the light stuff, then keep it that way the entire game. Don't switch all the time. I understand wanting to control the game, but really... lets get some consistency.


now I get to listen to Charles mumble his way through an explanation of the pistons.
 
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Pimpwerx

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Cerrius said:
darko = human victory cigar
No kidding man. The ultimate insult right there. :lol I fucking hate you Darko! That was a well-earned loss. Played like garbage the whole first half. Played an even game in the second, but still got worked on the boards like a bunch of chumpstains. Oh well, no more silly predictions...this series. It might well go the full 7 at this rate. But I'm still picking the Heat...duh. It's a no-brainer IMO. We'll do better at home, but ffs, we have no excuse playing like this. Again, SVG has to tell Shaq and Zo to concede some east bucket early if it keeps them on the court longer. We don't need to be fouling so hard early. Besides which, if you're gonna foul, hack the fuck out of them. Don't give up any chances for extra points.

BTW, Wade with those long jumpers. Yeah...they fell in Games 2 and 3. This isn't Game 2 or 3. When it's not falling, you find a different strategy. Shoulda been going to the paint alot sooner IMO. And is there still a reason Shaq doesn't get a touch EVERY FUCKING TIME DOWN THE COURT?????!???!? I've said it all season. He should get at least one touch. I think I said the same thing last year with the Lakers. If you're not letting him setup the offense, you're totally wasting him. You give it to him first. If he has his man off balance, he can move to the hoop. Otherwise, he can dish it back out to someone who's open, while trying to get his man back off balance again. It's like Shagtics 101.

Good game to the Pistons. They hit their shots, but they've shot pretty well all series long. They just hit slumps at the wrong times. But they played like they wanted it. Outhustled us total. Pimped us on the boards. It was a show of force from a team with heart. Fouls aren't an excuse at anytime IMO. Miami has enough depth to carry through. But all series long, we've been beaten to the ball by Dertroit. It's not a a best of 3. Depressing. :( PEACE.
 
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