Official 2008 Auto Racing thread (F1, Moto GP, WRC, NASCAR, etc)
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Seems to be a lot more interest in this thread then there was last year...good to see.
I was either busy or tired to post about last week's race...I reckon a simple :lol :lol :lol sums it up pretty well though. I am pretty worried about how fragile these cars appear to be though, considering the carnage that took place in the practice rounds today. The lack of TC does add to the entertainment factor, but I don't want to see too much taken away from these cars that causes 'em to break apart like Lego models on the slightest off road bump.
The timing of this race isn't particularly ideal, as I'll have to find a way to manage my sleep time in order to watch the big four EPL clashes later in the day. But it does make for a pretty cool late Saturday night/Sunday morning.
I was either busy or tired to post about last week's race...I reckon a simple :lol :lol :lol sums it up pretty well though. I am pretty worried about how fragile these cars appear to be though, considering the carnage that took place in the practice rounds today. The lack of TC does add to the entertainment factor, but I don't want to see too much taken away from these cars that causes 'em to break apart like Lego models on the slightest off road bump.
The timing of this race isn't particularly ideal, as I'll have to find a way to manage my sleep time in order to watch the big four EPL clashes later in the day. But it does make for a pretty cool late Saturday night/Sunday morning.
Times for all three practice sessions, including the pre-qualifying session (Heifeld sure tore it up).
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Malaysian GP free practice session 3 times
1. HEIDFELD BMW 1m35.019s
2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m35.262s
3. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.388s
4. TRULLI Toyota 1m35.389s
5. WEBBER Red Bull 1m35.437s
6. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m35.653s
7. PIQUET Renault 1m35.768s
8. BUTTON Honda 1m35.781s
9. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m35.827s
10. GLOCK Toyota 1m35.911s
11 HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.927s
12. ALONSO Renault 1m36.068s
13. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.183s
14. FISICHELLA Force India 1m36.229s
15. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.490s
16. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m36.529s
17. KUBICA BMW 1m36.618s
18. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m36.668s
19. SATO Super Aguri 1m36.908s
20. SUTIL Force India 1m36.939s
21. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m37.140s
22. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m37.703s
Malaysian GP free practice session 2 times
1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.055s
2. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.206s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m35.428s
4. BUTTON Honda 1m36.037s
5. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m36.474s
6. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.493s
7. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.512s
8. KUBICA BMW 1m36.671s
9. FISICHELLA Force India 1m36.756s
10. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.838s
11 BARRICHELLO Honda 1m36.879s
12. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.908s
13. HEIDFELD BMW 1m37.106s
14. ALONSO Renault 1m37.328s
15. PIQUET Renault 1m37.331s
16. WEBBER Red Bull 1m37.346s
17. GLOCK Toyota 1m37.512s
18. SUTIL Force India 1m37.614s
19. SATO Super Aguri 1m39.021s
20. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m39.361s
21. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso no time
22. COULTHARD Red Bull no time
Malaysian GP free practice session 1 times
1. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.392s
2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.459s
3. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.556s
4. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.578s
5. HAMILTON McLaren 1m36.626s
6. ALONSO Renault 1m37.022s
7. PIQUET Renault 1m37.034s
8. KUBICA BMW 1m37.218s
9. BUTTON Honda 1m37.282s
10. TRULLI Toyota 1m37.540s
11. HEIDFELD BMW 1m37.649s
12. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m37.649s
13. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m37.776s
14. GLOCK Toyota 1m37.782s
15. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m38.219s
16. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m38.232s
17. WEBBER Red Bull 1m38.707s
18. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m38.798s
19. FISICHELLA Force India 1m39.046s
20. SATO Super Aguri 1m40.178s
21. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m40.351s
22. SUTIL Force India 1m41.269sToyota is doing pretty well, Jarno was first in first period of time qualifying (1.35,205.).
Kimi is in his own league right now
and Heidfeld second. And what the hell happened to Williams ? 
Raikkonen fastest in second half of qualifying (1.34,188) !
Button, Coulthard, Piquet, Barrichello, Vettel and Rosberg out.
Kimi is in his own league right now
and Heidfeld second. And what the hell happened to Williams ? Raikkonen fastest in second half of qualifying (1.34,188) !
Button, Coulthard, Piquet, Barrichello, Vettel and Rosberg out.
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1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1.35,748
2. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari + 0,482
3. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren + 0,865
4. Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 0,961
5. Jarno Trulli Toyota + 0,963
6. Robert Kubica BMW + 0,979
7. Nick Heidfeld BMW + 1,005
8. Mark Webber Red Bull + 1,261
9. Fernando Alonso Renault + 2,702
10. Timo Glock Toyota + 3,908
11. Jenson Button Honda
12. David Coulthard Red Bull
13. Nelson Piquet Renault
14. Rubens Barrichello Honda
15. Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso
16. Nico Rosberg Williams
17. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India
18. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso
19. Takuma Sato Super Aguri
20. Adrian Sutil Force India
21. Anthony Davidson Super Aguri
22. Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsIt will be interesting race tomorrow.
Raikkonen > Massa.
Kovalainen > Hamilton.
Kimi's got this race...no way did Massa suddenly gain a half a second on Kimi. The true pace was revealed in session two, and Kimi slaughtered the field. Based on the way he drove his ridiculously heavy fueled car last week with little issue (being stuck behind Rubes is what did him in, well that and the two brain cramps :lol), I think Kimi wins this one with some ease. Still, if Massa is gonna get any wins, he probably won't be in a better position to do it.
I'll post all the quali times when ITV's website updates them.
I'll post all the quali times when ITV's website updates them.
Same as today.flsh said:No rain today and a Ferrari - McLaren showdown tomorrow. Going to be good
What are the temperatures and humidity going to be like tomorrow?
According to ORF (Austrian national television) comentator, both Mclarens are much heavier than Ferraris. We will see tommorow.
Midisurf: Heikki will pit two laps before Hamilton (IMO)
Kimi's clearly driving heavy...or at least, heavier. I'd bet a month's pay on it.
Kimi's pay I mean.
Forgot to mention that the FIA will have to do something about the last few moments of Q3. You can't have a bunch of cars crawling up the track, while a couple of others are literally slaloming through them trying to get a time. Pretty dangerous shit.
BTW, Massa's wife is hot as FUCK. I can hate the player, but I can't hate his game.
Kimi's pay I mean.
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Pole position shootout
1. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.748s
2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.230s
3. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.613s
4. HAMILTON McLaren 1m36.709s
5. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.711s
6. KUBICA BMW 1m36.727s
7. HEIDFELD BMW 1m36.753s
8. WEBBER Red Bull 1m37.009s
9. ALONSO Renault 1m38.450s
10. GLOCK Toyota 1m39.656s
Qualifying 2
1. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m34.188s
2. MASSA Ferrari 1m34.412s
3. HAMILTON McLaren 1m34.627s
4. HEIDFELD BMW 1m34.648s
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m34.759s
6. KUBICA BMW 1m34.811s
7. TRULLI Toyota 1m34.825s
8. WEBBER Red Bull 1m34.967s
9. GLOCK Toyota 1m35.000s
10. ALONSO Renault 1m35.140s
Knocked out:
11. BUTTON Honda 1m35.208s
12. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m35.408s
13. PIQUET Renault 1m35.562s
14. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m35.622s
15. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m35.648s
16. ROSBERG Williams 1m35.670s
Qualifying 1
1. TRULLI Toyota 1m35.205s
2. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m35.227s
3. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.347s
4. HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.392s
5. WEBBER Red Bull 1m35.440s
6. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m35.645s
7. HEIDFELD BMW 1m35.729s
8. KUBICA BMW 1m35.794s
9. ROSBERG Williams 1m35.843s
10. BUTTON Honda 1m35.847s
11. GLOCK Toyota 1m35.891s
12. ALONSO Renault 1m35.983s
13. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m36.058s
14. PIQUET Renault 1m36.074s
15. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m36.111s
16. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m36.198s
Knocked out:
17. FISICHELLA Force India 1m36.240s
18. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.388s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m36.677s
20. SATO Super Aguri 1m37.087s
21. SUTIL Force India 1m37.101s
22. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m37.481sForgot to mention that the FIA will have to do something about the last few moments of Q3. You can't have a bunch of cars crawling up the track, while a couple of others are literally slaloming through them trying to get a time. Pretty dangerous shit.
BTW, Massa's wife is hot as FUCK. I can hate the player, but I can't hate his game.
seattle6418
Member
why do you guys hate massa? am i missing something?
i hope it rains tomorrow. i kept expecting rain tonight and nothing happened. 10 more minutes, 10 more minutes... and then it was over before the shower.
go massa!
i hope it rains tomorrow. i kept expecting rain tonight and nothing happened. 10 more minutes, 10 more minutes... and then it was over before the shower.
go massa!
I don't really hate the guy...but ever since people tried to put Massa on the same level as Kimi a year or two ago, I've basically made it my mission to LOL at him at the slightest mishap, or when Kimi leaves his ass in the distance.
In qualifying and from the front, Massa is as quick as any driver out there. But as a driver starting behind the first row, or a driver in traffic, he's so far away from the top three guys (Kimi, Alonso, Hammy) in terms of overall driving skill, control and racing IQ, that the comparison simply becomes embarassing for him.
So er, yeah...that's where I'm coming from. I've been a Kimi worshipper ever since he joined McLaren, so I'm gonna be defensive regarding him in any case. :lol
In qualifying and from the front, Massa is as quick as any driver out there. But as a driver starting behind the first row, or a driver in traffic, he's so far away from the top three guys (Kimi, Alonso, Hammy) in terms of overall driving skill, control and racing IQ, that the comparison simply becomes embarassing for him.
So er, yeah...that's where I'm coming from. I've been a Kimi worshipper ever since he joined McLaren, so I'm gonna be defensive regarding him in any case. :lol
The Spacepope
Member
Well, he ain't called Felipe "I can only win from pole position" Massa for nothing.
Tim the Wiz
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It'll be a Kimi-Hamilton-Alonso podium, in that order, for my money. Can't wait.
DrM said:
Ok, thanks for correcting.
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Revised grid:
1. Massa Ferrari
2. Raikkonen Ferrari
3. Trulli Toyota
4. Kubica BMW Sauber
5. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault
7. Alonso Renault
8. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes *
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes *
10. Glock Toyota
11. Button Honda
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
13. Piquet Renault
14. Barrichello Honda
15. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
17. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari
18. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari
21. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
22. Nakajima Williams-Toyota **
* Penalised for blocking
** Penalised for his crash his Australiahttp://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66021
"Lewis Hamilton and Heikki Kovalainen have each been moved five places down the grid for blocking rival drivers in qualifying for the Malaysian Grand Prix."
"Hamilton was penalised for blocking Heidfeld, while Kovalainen got his penalty for blocking both the German and Alonso."
Penalty confirmed
Revised grid:
1. Massa Ferrari
2. Raikkonen Ferrari
3. Trulli Toyota
4. Kubica BMW Sauber
5. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault
7. Alonso Renault
8. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes *
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes *
10. Glock Toyota
11. Button Honda
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
13. Piquet Renault
14. Barrichello Honda
15. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
17. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari
18. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari
21. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
22. Nakajima Williams-Toyota **
* Penalised for blocking
** Penalised for his crash his Australia
Revised grid:
1. Massa Ferrari
2. Raikkonen Ferrari
3. Trulli Toyota
4. Kubica BMW Sauber
5. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault
7. Alonso Renault
8. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes *
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes *
10. Glock Toyota
11. Button Honda
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
13. Piquet Renault
14. Barrichello Honda
15. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
17. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari
18. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari
21. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
22. Nakajima Williams-Toyota **
* Penalised for blocking
** Penalised for his crash his Australia
SpoonyBard
Banned
Fucking Heidfeld... I hope he crashes with Kubica on the first corner.
SpoonyBard
Banned
Wes said:
Oh well, Alonso then?
MidiSurf said:
The whole slow inlap after qualifying is quite dangerous too. I'm glad they don't have the "burn off" phase of Q3 anymore, but they should just get the fuel credits like last year. Hopefuly they change the rules soon or else there's gonna be a massive accident.
Ghost said:
It's really hard to pass in Sepang. So if they don't do it right at start it will be pain in the ass to get past even Alanso.
Yet again some statistics
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Wins by starting position:
Pole: 5 wins
2nd: 2 wins
3rd: 0 wins
4th: 1 wins
5th: 0 wins
6th: 0 wins
7th: 1 winsEddie Irvine and Fernando Alonso are the two drivers to reach first place from second grid.
Ralf Schumacher took the first place in 2002 and he started from 4th place.
Kimi Raikkonen took the first place in 2003 and he started from 7th place.
marvelharvey
Member
Here's a video of the incident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_GjtJ9SIY
Seems a little odd though, as there's another driver in that pack who should be receiving a penalty. Not sure who it was (maybe a Red Bull?), but you'll see them in the above video at 0.48, making Heidfeld take the outside line at the bend before he reaches the McLarens.
Seems a little odd though, as there's another driver in that pack who should be receiving a penalty. Not sure who it was (maybe a Red Bull?), but you'll see them in the above video at 0.48, making Heidfeld take the outside line at the bend before he reaches the McLarens.
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