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Official All-Pro Football 2k8 Neo-GAF Online League Thread: Rats off to ya!

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
hey guys, did I ever tell you the one time I went without internet for weeks on end? Oh, that's right, I couldn't because I didn't have real internet for weeks on end.

I still want to see/hear if the game will be worth buying, but I'd be interested as an alternative. Birmingham REPRESENT.
 

Z_Y

Member
Looks like the league is already filled up (or is it?)

I'd like to get in as a sub or maybe a part of another league. I probably won't buy this game unless I get in a league (j/k....or am I?) so I will watch this thread with...something something.


GT: Z Y

City: Cleveland
 

LiveWire

Member
QVT said:
Oh jeez you guys care about winning? I may have to withdraw, then. I was just going to sorta have fun. Don't want to be 0-16 and mucking up the integrity of the ****ing GAFleague now.

No, it's still a fun league even if you're sporting a losing record, which I sadly have for each GAF season. However, I've taken down all the vets at one point or another (except for you FMT! your time is nigh! Young with a season-ending injury on the first drive!), so it's still competitive and fun. I can only speak of the dozen or so vets here however, we've weeded out a lot of people over the past years who say they're all into it and then drop out.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Lonestar said:
hey guys, did I ever tell you the one time I went without internet for weeks on end? Oh, that's right, I couldn't because I didn't have real internet for weeks on end.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
QVT said:
Oh jeez you guys care about winning? I may have to withdraw, then. I was just going to sorta have fun. Don't want to be 0-16 and mucking up the integrity of the ****ing GAFleague now.

We do care about winning. Most all of us are very very competitive and thats what really makes this league strive. However we're not derogatory in any way. We all have respect for one another and keep it as such. We don't rub loses in people's faces or anything like that. However many of us do have pretty intense rivalries that if you lose against them you pretty much hate life the rest of the night...
 

newsguy

Member
vumpler said:
We do care about winning. Most all of us are very very competitive and thats what really makes this league strive. However we're not derogatory in any way. We all have respect for one another and keep it as such. We don't rub loses in people's faces or anything like that. However many of us do have pretty intense rivalries that if you lose against them you pretty much hate life the rest of the night...

I still remember losing to Matrix on a bomb with no time left on the clock and kicking that huge xbox so hard it ripped the power out of the wall. On that note, to prove what good sports people are in the league, Matrix inputted my stats for me on the website after seeing I got booted.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
My only incident that has happened is against the super bowl against DM... That controller got smashed so hard i couldn't keep it closed together. But thanks to the lazy guys at the "geek squad" when I went to exchange my 360 at bestbuy they took the controller back without testing it. I super glued the insides all together lol. The sides were still even a bit gapped but they never looked at it. :lol

And it wasn't frustration at DM but the brokenness of 07. The routes were so broken it was pathetic. So many uncontestable balls in that game when you were right there... So glad thats over.
 

Zep

Banned
Updated List

Troy Aikman QB Todd Christensen TE
Steve Bartkowski QB Ben Coates TE
Sammy Baugh QB Mike Ditka TE
Bubby Brister QB Troy Drayton TE
John Brodie QB Billy Joe Dupree TE
Randall Cunningham QB Eric Green TE
Len Dawson QB Keith Jackson TE
Lynn Dickey QB Brent Jones TE
John Elway QB John Mackey TE
Otto Graham QB Pete Metzelaars TE
Steve Grogan QB Jay Novacek TE
Jim Harbaugh QB Shannon Sharpe TE
Jim Hart QB Jackie Smith TE
Bobby Hebert QB Raymond Berry WR
Jeff Hostetler QB Fred Biletnikoff WR
Bernie Kosar QB Cliff Branch WR
Tommy Kramer QB Mark Carrier WR
Dave Krieg QB Anthony Carter WR
Greg Landry QB Dwight Clark WR
Archie Manning QB Gary Clark WR
Dan Marino QB Henry Ellard WR
Joe Montana QB Irving Fryar WR
Warren Moon QB Willie Gault WR
Ken O'Brien QB Ernest Givins WR
Neil O'Donnell QB Alvin Harper WR
Mark Rypien QB Raghib Ismail WR
Ken Stabler QB John Jefferson WR
Bart Starr QB Dante Lavelli WR
Roger Staubach QB James Lofton WR
Joe Theismann QB Eric Martin WR
Johnny Unitas QB Tony Martin WR
Bill Wade QB Don Maynard WR
Andre Ware QB Bobby Mitchell WR
Steve Young QB Herman Moore WR
Jim Zorn QB Rob Moore WR
Merril Hoge FB Drew Pearson WR
Daryl Johnston FB Pete Pihos WR
Tom Rathman FB Andre Reed WR
Ickey Woods FB Jerry Rice WR
Marcus Allen HB Ricky Sanders WR
Ottis Anderson HB Steve Tasker WR
Greg Bell HB Charley Taylor WR
Eric Bieniemy HB John Taylor WR
Ronnie Bull HB Yancey Thigpen WR
Earl Campbell HB Rick Upchurch WR
Tony Canadeo HB Wesley Walker WR
Reggie Cobb HB Bill Curry C
Roger Craig HB Dermontti Dawson C
Chuck Foreman HB Jim Otto C
Barry Foster HB Dwight Stephenson C
Abner Haynes HB Mick Tingelhoff C
Dalton Hilliard HB Randy Cross G
Paul Hornung HB Bill Fralic G
Leroy Kelly HB Russ Grimm G
Floyd Little HB Stan Jones G
Hugh McElhenny HB Jim Langer G
Freeman McNeil HB Larry Little G
Natrone Means HB Tom Mack G
Dave Meggett HB Randall Mcdaniel G
Lenny Moore HB Guy Mcintyre G
Chuck Muncie HB Jesse Sapolu G
Tony Nathan HB Steve Wisniewski G
Christian Okoye HB Tony Boselli T
Walter Payton HB Bob Brown T
Joe Perry HB Roosevelt Brown T
Mike Rozier HB Lou Creekmur T
Barry Sanders HB Joe Delamielleure T
Gale Sayers HB Joe Jacoby T
O.J. Simpson HB Jim Lachey T
Billy Sims HB Ron Mix T
Emmitt Smith HB Mike Munchak T
Matt Snell HB Anthony Munoz T
Thurman Thomas HB Bubba Paris T
Charley Trippi HB Jim Parker T
Curt Warner HB Bob St. Clair T
Chris Warren HB Korey Stringer T
Ricky Watters HB Richmond Webb T
Elvin Bethea DE Rayfield Wright T
Chris Doleman DE Ron Yary T
L.C. Greenwood DE Nick Buoniconti ILB
Deacon Jones DE **** Butkus ILB
Rulon Jones DE Harry Carson ILB
Too Tall Jones DE Pepper Johnson ILB
Dexter Manley DE Brian Jones ILB
Gino Marchetti DE Jack Lambert ILB
Jim Marshall DE Chuck Noll ILB
Leonard Marshall DE John Offerdahl ILB
Harvey Martin DE Gary Plummer ILB
Leslie O'Neal DE Joe Schmidt ILB
Lee Roy Selmon DE Mike Singletary ILB
Clyde Simmons DE Chris Spielman ILB
Tony Tolbert DE Scott Studwell ILB
Reggie White DE Brad Van Pelt ILB
Jack Youngblood DE John Anderson OLB
Jerome Brown DT Carl Banks OLB
Dave Butz DT Chuck Bednarik OLB
Art Donovan DT Brian Bosworth OLB
Mike Golic DT Robert Brazile OLB
Dan Hampton DT Lamar Lathon OLB
Greg Kragen DT Greg Lloyd OLB
Leon Lett DT Karl Mecklenburg OLB
Bob Lilly DT Ken Norton Jr OLB
Marty Lyons DT Bryce Paup OLB
Keith Millard DT Derrick Thomas OLB
William Perry DT Jessie Tuggle OLB
Dan Saleaumua DT Dave Wilcox OLB
Randy White DT Otis Wilson OLB
Lem Barney CB Leroy Butler FS
Tom Brookshier CB Deron Cherry FS
Willie Brown CB Nolan Cromwell FS
Lester Hayes CB Cliff Harris FS
Mike Haynes CB Ronnie Lott FS
Night Train Lane CB Eugene Robinson FS
Albert Lewis CB Eric Turner FS
Terry McDaniel CB Solomon Wilcots FS
Mel Renfro CB **** Anderson SS
Roger Wehrli CB Joey Browner SS
Rod Woodson CB Fred Marion SS
Jim Bakken K George Mcafee SS
Al Del Greco K Jack Tatum SS
Lou Groza K Charlie Waters SS
Jeff Jaeger K Willie Wood SS
Eddie Murray K
Jan Stenerud K NOTE: Yellow indicates
Garo Yepremian K players in the NFL
Ray Guy P :lol
 

bluemax

Banned
QVT said:
Oh jeez you guys care about winning? I may have to withdraw, then. I was just going to sorta have fun. Don't want to be 0-16 and mucking up the integrity of the ****ing GAFleague now.

As long as you play all your games, don't cheese, and are a good sport no one really cares how good you are.

I was pretty awful in the preseason tournament but I almost made the playoffs last year (would've if I had been in an easier division or hadn't crapped the bed in 4 of my last games). Most everyone I played early on was really helpful and gave me lots of advice that helped.

Just be graceful in defeat and most importantly PLAY ALL YOUR GAMES.
 

bdoughty

Banned
O'donnell and Bubby... (sad but true)

To be fair O'Donnell is probably in the Top 5 quarterbacks in Dallas Cowboy history.


I once played in a playground game with Bam Morris while he was a Texas Tech. Don't think he was pushing at the time - guess Tech payed pretty well. :)
 

AkaBalla

Member
was fortunate enough to be invited today to 2K's NY offices to get a hands-on look at their new All Pro Football 2K8 title. While I wasn't allowed to take any in game screen shots or videos, I did get to spend about an hour watching the game in action and playing it for myself as 2K's PR Manager Anthony Chau walked me thru different aspects of the game.

Before I go any further, Anthony wanted me to explain exactly why there is no Franchise mode, and to clear up any misconceptions that 2K has been planning this game for the last three years. According to him, the idea for this game was born about a year ago and as it began to go into development, there was just no time to add a robust franchise mode. The producers also wondered just how feasible it would be to have a franchise mode with teams made up of legends. 2K has not ruled out future iteration of the series having added franchise mode as they are exploring ways to do it, but for this year the focus was strictly on gameplay and delivering the best football product that they could.

From what I saw with my own eyes, they are well on their way to delivering on that. Fans of the last ESPN NFL 2K5, will have no problem picking up this game and playing it like they haven't missed a step. In fact the game moves identical to 2K5, granted with major next-gen upgrades, has some of the same moves (jukes, turbo charge), and all the defensive adjustments you were used to in previous versions of NFL 2K have made their return.

They tinkered with the kicking game a bit. Instead of it being meter based, the power of your kick will depend on your fingers. You'll see the familiar arrow which shows the direction the kick will go in, but that's where the similarities end. Instead you pull back on the right analog stick and quickly swing the stick upward with the distance being determined how fast you can swing the stick. At first I didn't dig this mechanic but as I played more, I got more used to it and eventually it becomes second nature.

One thing that stood out to me was the player control, it was really responsive. I had no problem skating Barry Sanders thru the hole or turning him on a dime upfield. The run blocking was well done, you could see the lineman surging forward on runs and standing defensive ends upright when pass blocking. Another wrinkle 2K added, and this was to combat the suction blocking that infuriates us all. When your defender engages in a block, by flicking the analog stick left or right, he can reach his arm out and try to trip the ball carrier as he goes by. Of course this animation will depend on how good the defensive player is, or how good the offensive player blocking is, but at least you have a chance in all situations to make a tackle while blocked. An element like this adds a great dimension to the gameplay.

The player models were well done and some of the 30 generic stadiums looked really hot. 2K since they weren't bound by any NFL restrictions, really went over the top on some of the stadiums. One stadium had this huge bird at one end and it's wings acted as the stadium's retractable roof. Hot! Anthony couldn't confirm that we'd be able to see the roof retract during gameplay, but the design was outstanding. The graphics on the players were tight as well and they really nailed some of the player faces like Jeff Hosteler (yeah he's in the game and not LT..BOOOOO!), Jerry Rice and Johnny Unitas. I asked why certain Legends were not in the game like Lawrence Taylor and was told generally it was a money issue. Some ex-NFL players wanted a bunch of loot for their likeness and 2K had to pass.

Just because the game is centered around legends, not everyone in the game is on the same level and 2K stressed that sim gameplay was still a priority. So any fears that APF was going to play NFL Blitz style can now be put to rest. You have different tiers of legends, gold tiered (Rice, Unitas, Sanders), silver tiered (Willie Gault) and bronze tiered (Hostetler, Jim McMahon). When you first start up a game, there are no set teams, so you have to pick your squad before you play. You get a choice of 2 gold tiered players, 4 silver tiered players and 5 bronze tiered players (forgive me if I'm a little off with the numbers, this is all off of memory). The rest of your squad will be filled out by generic players which break down like this:

OFFENSIVE LINE:
RUN BLOCK, BALANCED, PASS BLOCK

DEFENSIVE LINE
RUN STOP, BALANCED, PASS RUSH

DEFENSIVE BACKS
COVERAGE, BALANCED, RUN SUPPORT

WIDE RECEIVERS
SPEED, BALANCED, POSSESSION

RUNNING BACKS
SPEED, BALANCED, POWER

So you fill out your squads based on what strengths are a priority for you. When playing online you won't know what kind of team the opponent has until the matchup screen or you look at his VIP. So you may build a team that's strong against the run, but weak against the pass, while the opponent's team is a great passing team but has a weak running game. Should make for some interesting matchups online.

One thing I almost forgot to note, 2K did away with player ratings, instead the stars have certain abilities specific to them (about 4 catergories). For instance I saw Dan Marino had, Quick Release as one of his abilities, Walter Payton had Scissor Kick (for that high leg kick juke he used to do), Rice had Route God (no explanation needed) and Joe Montana had one listed for Signal Stealer for his ability to read and know exactly what the defense was doing. Quarterbacks with signal stealer as one of their attributes will be able to see what play you called on defense by pressing the X button.

The on the field action was done really nice, there are interactive sidelines (you can run into people standing on the side) and they have a camera shot called Field Pass that takes you right onto the field and you can see the offense or defense calling out plays. The familiar voices of two-man team Dan & Peter are also back calling the action.

I did see a few quirks, but keep in mind this was an 80% build I was playing. One instance I had a player running around with no upper body, only was his torso and legs running around on the field and a couple times the screen would go completely black for long periodds of time. I also saw some clipping of players. All this I was assured would be fixed.
 

Ramirez

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
where are all the steelers classics like bam morris, barry foster, and neil odonnel?

You forgot Kordell Stewart friend.

Quarterbacks with signal stealer as one of their attributes will be able to see what play you called on defense by pressing the X button.

They can do this every play? Please tell me no.
 

newsguy

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
newsguy: you down to play? i see you post but didn't see you show interest! come back to the leagues old friend... come back!

I am interested but these football games aren't what they were on the XBOX. I want to get in on the league cause I have a blast playing with you guys, but what if this game turns out to be shit and we're stuck playing a full season of something lame? I don't know if my foot or the 360 could handle the beatings. Whining aside, I'll put in my interest for a Miami team.
 
:lol well stealing the play is a little more crucial. that means anyone who has joe montana and knows anything about football will absolutely crush you.
 

TheDuce22

Banned
From what I saw with my own eyes, they are well on their way to delivering on that. Fans of the last ESPN NFL 2K5, will have no problem picking up this game and playing it like they haven't missed a step. In fact the game moves identical to 2K5, granted with major next-gen upgrades, has some of the same moves (jukes, turbo charge), and all the defensive adjustments you were used to in previous versions of NFL 2K have made their return.

****ING AWESOME! No more Madden fake ass momentum bullshit. I was starting to miss playable football games.
 

DMczaf

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i seriously doubt they would have the "signal caller" be able to steal every play

Belichick won't be pleased.

belichick_bill5.jpg
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
newsguy said:
I still remember losing to Matrix on a bomb with no time left on the clock and kicking that huge xbox so hard it ripped the power out of the wall. On that note, to prove what good sports people are in the league, Matrix inputted my stats for me on the website after seeing I got booted.

:lol

Good times.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Bah I just hope this game will still be seen as the appetizer for madden when it comes out. I hope we still have the madden league at launch... This game will be a nice alternative to NCAA but man I hope that's all it is...
 

TheDuce22

Banned
DMczaf said:

There were no rules against scrambling in random matches and I always managed to deal with it by taking controll of players. I know that concept is foreign to alot of Madden players because the momentum system discourages actual gameplay. The main problem with the 2k games, as I have always said, was the huge gap between top teir teams/players and the rest of them. It was basically impossible to beat a top team with with the shit teams. This game will not have that problem because of EA and the NFL, thanks guys!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
:lol :lol

Too bad I couldnt do that shit in Madden 07 all the time,Texans
(Carr ...goodbye bitch)
were a nightmare to play with.
 

Rorschach

Member
Long Bomb crown has been passed! (speaking of which...where's Lamonica and Gannon?)

Still no Bo or Brown. :|

If there is any justice, I will pick up Marcus Allen and Ken Stabler.
 
It was basically impossible to beat a top team with with the shit teams.

cardsdolphs1.jpg


never forget alteredbeast, never forget...


now guys, remember lets leave madden out of here. this is an APF thread only. if you hate madden, go post some of that sweet delicious hate in the official thread :D

also, just to clarify, the madden league will be happening shortly after the launch of the game. rest assured of THAT, my friends
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Matrix said:
:lol :lol

Too bad I couldnt do that shit in Madden 07 all the time,Texans
(Carr ...goodbye bitch)
were a nightmare to play with.
Carr??? Shit. Watch what he does with a REAL line in front of him. I'm glad to have him on our squad.
 
vumpler said:
Bah I just hope this game will still be seen as the appetizer for madden when it comes out. I hope we still have the madden league at launch... This game will be a nice alternative to NCAA but man I hope that's all it is...

So you're hoping that this game is not as good as it could potentially be, so that it won't be better than Madden?

That's one of the stupidest ****ing things I've ever read...
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
<3 Moon and Campbell

f-ing sweet
 

bdoughty

Banned
DMczaf said:
Lee Roy Selmon!

Selmon_BucsHistory.jpg


Lee Roy Selmon

OKLleroyselmon200.jpg


There was never a doubt. It's not like you had very many Bucs to pick from during the 70's early 80's. honorable mention to Doug Williams and Ricky Bell (RIP).


Edit: The yellow just means they are in the Hall Of Fame. Pretty sure Slemon was on the list to begin with.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
FMT: Like I said, about all I have for internet at home right now are the consoles. I can read through the PS3's browser, and play 360, etc. But I don't have a keyboard, since my laptop went bzzt. Most of my posting is here at work, whenever I actually get a chance to sneak a look.

And I said Birmingham, AL. Unless that's not a chooseable city. Not too clear on that fact though, not sure what the game will have available to us.
 

ORANGUTAN

Banned
How long after July 17th is the pre-draft tournament gonna start? I haven't decided if I'm going to buy this day one or use an online rental service. If rent, then it could take like 3-4 days after the release date to get it in the mail. If the reviews are amazing, I'll def buy it, though. But I have a feeling they'll just be OK.. like 8.5. Should've been a $39.99 game, which would've been a buy regardless of quality.
 
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