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[Man God]

See, it is fun!

Ooh, better add a decent own but might buy to Majora's Mask. Depends on how it looks.

 

[MoxManiac]

If you go by sales than CT really isn't that major of a title. Same with Secret of Mana.

They're still short sighted though. The majority of SE fans will rebuy it on any system, for just about any price. No need to for carts, cds, manuals, ads, anything.

Heck some people would prefer the unadultered FF or DQ 1-6.

The other thing too is, I don't think VC releases would interfere with sales of remakes. I think a CT for DS, for example, would still sell well even if CT was on VC.

Comon JSnake, what's the hold up?

I hope it isn't Smash Bros N64, because I never played that game back then, so I hold no nostalga for it.

 

[Firestorm]

Games I owned and bought because I never beat and want to: Super Mario Bros (still haven't beat ;_
Games I got from GAF Secret Santa but never played: Donkey Kong Country 3
Games I got because I never played and knew were quality: Super Metroid
Games I bought because my friends and I needed something to do: Bomberman '93 (not good)

That's it!

Games I want to buy since I never played: Earthbound, Final Fantasy VI, Crono Trigger
Games I want to buy even though I played: Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Kirby Superstar, Super Smash Bros, Super Mario RPG

 

[EphemeralDream]

The other thing too is, I don't think VC releases would interfere with sales of remakes. I think a CT for DS, for example, would still sell well even if CT was on VC.

I think SE's thoughts on this are that the amount of people who would rather buy a cheaper version on VC of say FFVI, CT, etc. and then wouldn't go and buy a port or remake scares them enough to not allow that option. Basically buy the rather expensive port or you're out of luck as there is no other way of playing the game (eBay or ROMs aside).

Jiggy, are you at all worried about Nintendo ceasing the VC service or not carrying over purchased titles to their next console iteration? I've thought about selling some of my SNES and n64 titles, especially the ones in which I only own the cartridge. However, if they don't carry over titles, it'd be like the same problem again where you can only play this game on this piece of hardware. A terrible move on Nintendo's part should they do it, but seeing as they pay little attention to making the VC service better, it doesn't seem completely out of the question.

 

[L.B.]

*Dying of suspense*

 

[TJ Spyke]

well thats not entirely true.. Actraiser is an Enix game for example.. he said that SE games will only be released if they dont see any chances for those games to be remaked...

so i guess games like terraenigma, actraiser 2, soul blazer (was it.?) among some other games could come out.. (hopefully Secret of Mana and Seikendensetsu 3... )

Elevator Action, The Legend of Kage, Bubble Bobble, and Operation Wolf have also been released on the VC. They were originally Taito games, but Square Enix purchase Taito a few years ago (thus are technically SE games now).

I want to play the original Dragon Warrior though, I played it as a kid and want it again. No DS remake has been announced AFAIK, plus I want to play with the original graphics.

 

[Cheesemeister]

Real?

Mar. 3, 2008

This week's addition let's players pit their favorite Nintendo Characters against each other in a 4 player star studed smash fest!

Nintendo adds new games to the Wii™ Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points™ to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week's new games are:

Super Smash Bros: (Nintendo 64®, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone, 1,000 Wii Points): Super Smash Bros. is a four-player brawler using a non-traditional fighting engine: instead of simply depleting an opponent's life meter, you must knock him off the playing field! , Smash Bros. pits popular Nintendo characters in combat situations throughout well-known locations. Fighters include Mario, Link (from The Legend of Zelda), Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Samus Aran, Kirby, Fox McCloud (from Star Fox), Pikachu and four additional characters waiting to be unlocked. All characters fight in levels based on their own videogames, so you'll battle outside Hyrule Castle, Yoshi's Island, the Congo Jungle, Planet Zebes, Sector Z, Peach's Castle, Dream Land and Saffron City.

The gameplay is designed for multiplayer action with an emphasis on one-on-one fighting. While characters can pull off a number of distinctive moves based on their natural abilities (such as Mario's fireball or Samus Aran's Screw Attack), all fighters have a projectile, close range and throw attack with slight variations depending on whom you select. Various weapons and power-ups will also randomly appear during each stage, so players will be able to wield beam swords (resembling light sabers), baseball bats, fans and other types of items. The game also includes a variety of options to customize the action, including multiple difficulty levels, your choice of mono or stereo sound, adjustable screen settings and the ability to set the number of lives.

For more information about Wii, please visit wii.com.

 

[Jiggy]

List wars go:


Games I still own and still bought
Super Mario World*, The Dynastic Hero*

*own the GBA version
**already-owned in the sense that I have Wonder Boy in Monster World on VC

Games I once owned and bought again
Bubble Bobble, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, F-Zero X, Legend of Zelda, Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Star Fox 64*, Star Tropics, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels**

*I would still have the Star Fox 64 cartridge, but it was stolen from a friend who had borrowed it
**previously owned via Super Mario All-Stars

Games I played but never owned
ActRaiser, Donkey Kong Country, Kirby's Adventure, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Super Castlevania IV, Super Metroid, Zelda II: Adventure of Link

Games I had never played
Adventures of Lolo, Adventures of Lolo 2, Axelay, Beyond Oasis, Blazing Lazers, Bonk's Adventure, Bonk's Revenge, Chew Man Fu, Dragon's Curse, Galaga '90, Gate of Thunder, Gunstar Heroes, Kid Icarus, Kirby's Dream Course, Landstalker, Lords of Thunder, Military Madness, Neutopia, Neutopia II, New Adventure Island, Ristar, R-Type III: The Third Lightning, Shining Force, Sin and Punishment, Soldier Blade, Solomon's Key, Streets of Rage 2, Super Star Soldier, Wonder Boy in Monster World, Zanac



Games I own and would buy
Bomberman 64 probably, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Final Fantasy VI*, Illusion of Gaia, Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, Secret of Mana

*If and only if the old SNES translation is intact.

Games I once owned and would buy again
Blaster Master, Kirby Super Star*, Ogre Battle**, Super Mario RPG

*I know.
**Had owned the PS1 version, and played the better SNES version before that.

Games I've played, but never owned, and would buy
Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse, Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Demon's Crest, Duck Tales, EVO: The Search For Eden, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest possibly, Fire 'n' Ice, Lufia and the Fortress of Doom, Little Nemo: The Dream Master, Mischief Makers, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Shadowrun, Super Turrican, Terranigma, The Twisted Tales of Spike McFang, Zombies Ate My Neighbors


And I'm not listing the games I've never played that I'll probably buy.

Jiggy, are you at all worried about Nintendo ceasing the VC service or not carrying over purchased titles to their next console iteration? I've thought about selling some of my SNES and n64 titles, especially the ones in which I only own the cartridge. However, if they don't carry over titles, it'd be like the same problem again where you can only play this game on this piece of hardware. A terrible move on Nintendo's part should they do it, but seeing as they pay little attention to making the VC service better, it doesn't seem completely out of the question.

When Wii started off, I wasn't worried about it in the least, because letting people carry the games over seemed like such an obvious move that I couldn't fathom Nintendo not doing it.

After the repeated delays of already-rated games, the generally stagnant sales (in terms of tie ratio), and the continued refusal to really advertise the service, I'm less sure. On my slightly negative days, I'm worried that I'll end up having to keep my Wii and there'll be no way to move the games up to Super Wii (or whatever the next system is). On my really negative days, I worry that eventually they'll cancel the VC service entirely and keeping my Wii won't be good enough; I already have everything transferred to SD card (despite how stupidly long that process takes), but when a Wii breaks down, a replacement console won't recognize the transferred games on that card, so the service continuing to exist is pivotal.

On my neutral and my more positive days, I think there's still not too much to worry about. The slowed-down rate of releases suggests to me that they want to stretch this service out as long as possible; at the rate we're going, by 2011 we could very well end up with fewer than 20 Neo Geo games or fewer than 35 N64 games. And yet, despite some of the current systems not getting enough releases in the here and now, they keep adding support for other consoles like Master System (and Game Gear in that same category), Commodore 64, and MSX. I wonder whether they'd really spend the time, money, and effort to make the emulation of these systems possible and bring publishers on board without a solid long-term plan in mind.

Whatever the case, the treatment of VC lately has been fairly worrisome, and, yeah, I've certainly moved from having no fear for the next console generation to being really iffy. :/ Right now I'm still kind of hanging in there because I presume that VC will see a sort of renewed focus of Nintendo's advertising attention after WiiWare launches. If it doesn't, though, I'll be right there to panic and fill my own mind with FUD.

 

[JSnake]

Just bugged my rep again. We'll see..

 

[MichaelEM3]

Real?

Please! Please!

 

[Luigison]

Real?

If that's real NOA needs to fire their press editor.

 

[BooJoh]

Played but didn't own: Mario Kart 64, Kid Icarus, Punch-Out!!, R-Type 3

Never played: Dynastic Hero, Sin & Punishment

Own but repurchased: Pokémon Snap


As for Square-Enix, I hope they release Chrono Trigger, on VC or a remake.. I really don't care which, as long as I don't have to suffer owning only the PSX version anymore. Anyone waiting for FFVI should just buy the GBA version now or hope for a likely DS remake. E.V.O. has high potential for VC, and I really hope they make that happen.

 

[L.B.]

Hey JSnake,
It's one thing if your not allowed to share any info, that's completely cool. But do you know ANYthing about tomorrow's releases? Something "Big"? Or are you totally clueless like we are? :lol

Maybe we'll finally get Everybody's Nintendo Channel tomorrow

 

[Milabrega]

Post edited to save Jsnake's job.

 

[TJ Spyke]

Maybe we'll finally get Everybody's Nintendo Channel tomorrow

I really hope someone finds out the real info soon.

 

[BooJoh]

Hey JSnake,
It's one thing if your not allowed to share any info, that's completely cool. But do you know ANYthing about tomorrow's releases? Something "Big"? Or are you totally clueless like we are? :lol

Maybe we'll finally get Everybody's Nintendo Channel tomorrow

Pretty sure he's completely in the dark until he gets the PR.

Worst case scenario: NOA got tired of the Friday leaks and we'll go back to getting the PR from the NOA Press Site around 9am on Mondays.

 

[Jiggy]

Please! Please!

There's nothing that would please me about another one-game week.
But that doesn't matter since it's very probably fake. I mean, really:

This week's addition let's lets players pit their favorite Nintendo Characters characters against each other in a 4 player 4-player star studed star-studded smash fest!

Nintendo adds new games to the Wii™ Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points™ to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week's new games are new game is:

Super Smash Bros: (Nintendo 64®, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone, 1,000 Wii Points): Super Smash Bros. is a four-player brawler using a non-traditional fighting engine: instead of simply depleting an opponent's life meter, you must knock him off the playing field! , (no comma there) Smash Bros. pits popular Nintendo characters in combat situations throughout well-known locations. Fighters include Mario, Link (from The Legend of Zelda), Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Samus Aran, Kirby, Fox McCloud (from Star Fox), Pikachu and four additional characters waiting to be unlocked. All characters fight in levels based on their own videogames, so you'll battle outside Hyrule Castle (no, it's on top of Hyrule Castle), Yoshi's Island, the Congo Jungle, Planet Zebes, Sector Z, Peach's Castle, Dream Land and Saffron City.

The gameplay is designed for multiplayer action with an emphasis on one-on-one fighting. (contradiction with the frequent previous references to being for four players) While characters can pull off a number of distinctive moves based on their natural abilities (such as Mario's fireball or Samus Aran's Screw Attack), all fighters have a projectile (outright falsehood; even without factoring in the secret characters, DK and arguably Kirby don't have projectiles), close range and throw attack with slight variations depending on whom you select. Various weapons and power-ups will also randomly appear during each stage, so players will be able to wield beam swords (resembling light sabers) (they probably wouldn't say this), baseball bats (or this), fans and other types of items. The game also includes a variety of options to customize the action, including multiple difficulty levels, your choice of mono or stereo sound (and probably not even that), adjustable screen settings and the ability to set the number of lives.

For more information about Wii, please visit wii.com.

 

[JSnake]

Fuck fuck fuck fuck, I gave a link to Cheese's post to my rep asking if it was real. Here's hoping he doesn't look at the rest of the thread. EVERYONE EDIT YOUR POSTS

 

[Iam Canadian]

Where did you get that, Cheesemeister?

I highly doubt that's real. There are a number of factual and spelling errors. I also don't think that a game has ever gotten two paragraphs of description in a press release, even during a one-game week. Besides, this is pretty glaring:

This week's new games are:

...Followed by only one game.

 

[leroy hacker]

There are different categories of SE games. Even within Square's own library, there are different categories:

FFMQ and Secret of Evermore will never be remade. However, probably Square would rather the world forgot they existed than try to make a few long-tail dollars from them.

I have a feeling that Secret of Mana has never been ported and never will be because the code is so sloppy, so I'd say a VC release of this is more likely than for any of their other major SNES games. Still, they will probably want to leave open the possibility of doing a 3-d remake someday-though that day has probably been pushed far away by the failure of the World of Mana project.

CT is a question mark. They've ported it before, so they might port it again, though it seems like they missed the chance to do a direct port now that the GBA generation is over.

FF1-6 will never stop being remade, so we'll definitely never see them on VC.

Square's Japan only SNES games won't come to North America, so I'm not even going to try to think about them.

 

[L.B.]

I've been lurking here for a while, so I know what's been going on around here! I'm just curious to see how much he knows and what he is and isn't allowed to share.
The info he brings us every week.. is it allowed? Can he get into trouble for that?

If NOT, then why don't they just go public with it every Friday night?

 

[Iam Canadian]

Here's hoping for Earthbound. I said nothing else here.

Edit: This is a bald-faced lie, but Earthbound is more important than whatever this post was originally about.

 

[JSnake]

I thought your rep was okay with you sharing info with us.

I don't think he knows. I also don't remember saying that.

 

[Jiggy]

Edit 2: Eh, I might as well have fun and pretend I said nothing. There's a joke somewhere in here about NeoGAFers having fun with everything except playing games...

Edit 3: Nah, I'm re-editing my old post back in for no reason.

I thought your rep was okay with you sharing info with us.

We wouldn't know whether that person is okay with it, since JSnake "never" shares info with us.

Edit [1]: Serious note: I actually went back and edited one post, then realized it's pointless since we've got a whole thread here and months of history.

 

[Iam Canadian]

I don't think he knows. I also don't remember saying that.

Hm. I'm not going to go looking through this whole thread, but I could have sworn you had said something about the guy knowing about this but admitting that he couldn't keep it secret either.

But whatever.

 

[TJ Spyke]

Jsnake, i'm pretty sure that when you started back in October that you said your rep was OK with you giving us hints about the games.

 

[Milabrega]

I don't think he knows. I also don't remember saying that.

You made a post once that was something along the lines of the rep replying "Yeah, if I was your age I couldn't resist telling my friends what games were coming either".

Fuck fuck fuck fuck, I gave a link to Cheese's post to my rep asking if it was real. Here's hoping he doesn't look at the rest of the thread. EVERYONE EDIT YOUR POSTS

If you linked to the thread, the jig is up heh. Even still the info on friday should improve sales, as it gives time for people to purchase Points cards and for other users here to share opinions of the game, so this is one Nintendo leak i don't think they would mind.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Edit: Serious note: I actually went back and edited one post, then realized it's pointless since we've got a whole thread here and months of history.

Well, I would assume that any hypothetical Nintendo rep would end up reading maybe the last few pages, not the entire thread. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. >_>

 

[EphemeralDream]

Real?

Seems hard to believe NA would get 2 N64 games in a row, although the timing (being that it's SB) does seem right. And 1 game wouldn't surprise me, it's a pretty big release.

I'm hoping it's not though .

 

[JSnake]

Okay, it seems you guys are right. False alarm, lulz.

 

[Iam Canadian]

That's a very thorough proofreading job, Jigs, but I honestly would probably just excise that entire second paragraph. I've never known the PR to go into that much detail about a game.

 

[Plinko]

Even though I've never played Earthbound, you guys have hyped it so much that I'd be ecstatic if it was released on VC.

My guess for this week, though, is like everyone else's: Smash Bros. for 64.

 

[EphemeralDream]

If you linked to the thread, the jig is up heh. Even still the info on friday should improve sales, as it gives time for people to purchase Points cards and for other users here to share opinions of the game, so this is one Nintendo leak i don't think they would mind.

I think it has the opposite effect. Finding out on Monday would likely lead to more impulse buys, whereas finding out over the weekend gives the consumer more time to dwell on if they "need" it or not. Certain games could see a hype train forming, based on early news, but these games are likely popular enough to get bought by a lot of people anyway.

 

[Milabrega]

Even though I've never played Earthbound, you guys have hyped it so much that I'd be ecstatic if it was released on VC.

Same here heh.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Even though I've never played Earthbound, you guys have hyped it so much that I'd be ecstatic if it was released on VC.

I can't hype it enough. Earthbound is, bar absolutely none, my favourite game ever made.

If you have even the slightest interest in RPGs, I strongly recommend that you play it.

 

[Jiggy]

That's a very thorough proofreading job, Jigs, but I honestly would probably just excise that entire second paragraph. I've never known the PR to go into that much detail about a game.

Well, looking at their atrocious grammar and fact-checking, perhaps the extra effort needed to create the second paragraph is the explanation for why the PR took two extra days.

It's still fake, though.

 

[Firestorm]

Real?

Doesn't sound real. Nintendo wouldn't say "non-traditonal fighting game", also wouldn't clarify the series Link is from but not Samus, I think it's Kongo Jungle not Congo, and the emphasis on 1v1 fighting also isn't something I'd expect from Nintendo. And I just now realized jiggy covered it.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Well, looking at their atrocious grammar and fact-checking, perhaps the extra effort needed to create the second paragraph is the explanation for why the PR took two extra days.

Well, perhaps, but that paragraph looks like it had about five minutes of extra effort put into it. >_>

It's still fake, though.

Oh, I know.

I think it's Kongo Jungle not Congo

Actually, this is a legitimate error from the game itself. I'm fairly sure that the original Smash actually did spell it as "Congo Jungle".

Yes, this is the kind of useless miscellany that I remember. >_>

 

[Ranger X]

Smash Bros? well, ok. I guess it makes sense. I'm not a fan though.

Oh and, since people are listing their VC collection... Here's my superior one:

RangerX Virtual Console games

 

[JPBrowncoat]

I can't hype it enough. Earthbound is, bar absolutely none, my favourite game ever made.

If you have even the slightest interest in RPGs, I strongly recommend that you play it.

I want too so bad. My first taste will probably be on the Masterpiece section of Brawl if it is in fact in the US version.

 

[Jiggy]

Doesn't sound real. Nintendo wouldn't say "non-traditonal fighting game", also wouldn't clarify the series Link is from but not Samus, I think it's Kongo Jungle not Congo, and the emphasis on 1v1 fighting also isn't something I'd expect from Nintendo. And I just now realized jiggy covered it.

I didn't cover two of those things, though I was thinking that about Samus. As for Congo Jungle, it's the word "the" that seems most awkward to me--as if they're talking about the real Congo Jungle on the real Earth, or something. Bizarre.

 

[Iam Canadian]

As if it was necessary to drive yet another nail into the coffin of that fake PR, the phrase "4-player star-studded smash fest" is taken right from the original Smash commerical.

 

[reggieandTFE]

I've been playing Super Paper Mario for the last week and got in the mood for some platforming action so I bought Ninja Gaiden 3 (NES), Gunstar Heroes (GEN) and Yoshi's Story (N64).

Quickie Impressions: Holy shit, is Ninja Gaiden hard, I haven't gotten past the second level yet.

Gunstar Heroes is a lot more fun to me than the GBA game. Everything about it just seems cleaner.

Yoshi's Story is a fun little platformer if you don't expect it to be as good as Yoshi's Island. The graphics look great and the controls hold up surprisingly well on the classic controller. The only downside is that playing this after Gunstar Heroes makes me wish for Mischief Makers to come out on the VC. Are we ever going to get some more 3rd party N64 games?

 

[Iam Canadian]

Quickie Impressions: Holy shit, is Ninja Gaiden hard, I haven't gotten past the second level yet.

If you think that Ninja Gaiden's second level is hard....well, all I can say is that you haven't seen anything yet. >_> Ninja Gaiden doesn't really get serious until the third level, and it's just a never-ending campaign to utterly annihilate the player from there.

Good luck.

 

[JSnake]

Canadian, check your PMs plz. :U

 

[MoxManiac]

Canadian, check your PMs plz. :U

you better be pming back and forth about how excited you are about earthbound going up on monday!

 

[L.B.]

Wants. Info.

 

[JSnake]

you better be pming back and forth about how excited you are about earthbound going up on monday!

Well, it's related to EB and the VC.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Canadian, check your PMs plz. :U

Already taken care of.

 

[Cheesemeister]

Where did you get that, Cheesemeister?

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=935580&topic=41735999