Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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cartman414
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Gradius II? Nice. Hopefully we also get the Famicom version as well, which has also long been on the Japanese VC service. Not as arcade authentic, nor did it have the extra stage from the Duo CD version, but it was more balanced. Also liked a couple of the song arrangements a little better.
I do feel a little bad for PAL-land though that Columns III counts as an import because they didn't originally get it.
I do feel a little bad for PAL-land though that Columns III counts as an import because they didn't originally get it.
If NA gets either Final Soldier or Gradius II--or some other import--along with one other game on Monday, I won't complain about the two-game schedule for this week. Previously-Japan-only titles deserve a time to shine. (I wouldn't buy Gradius II, actually--never been a fan of the series--but the principle is important here, and others are giving positive feedback. Final Soldier, on the other hand, is my third-most-wanted title of the VC-eligible already-rated games, behind only Shining Force II and FS' more lighthearted companion Star Parodier.)
...Of course, if neither Final Soldier nor Gradius II are there, or if one of those is the only title to show up in VC's final week before WiiWare enters the picture, the complaints will commence as per usual. In fact, if Final Soldier doesn't show, the complaints will probably be even stronger than normal, since I think Star Soldier R is supposed to be a WiiWare launch title and right about now would be a great time to strike.
...Of course, if neither Final Soldier nor Gradius II are there, or if one of those is the only title to show up in VC's final week before WiiWare enters the picture, the complaints will commence as per usual. In fact, if Final Soldier doesn't show, the complaints will probably be even stronger than normal, since I think Star Soldier R is supposed to be a WiiWare launch title and right about now would be a great time to strike.
Thanks, will fix the text there.A Black Falcon said:
Looks pretty decent. I'll read up on these two when I find time. <_<
Oh, interesting... I'm generally wary of sequels that switch genres, but I like platformers, so perhaps this worked out.
Scalpel Knight
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I haven't bought a VC game in a long while. I should officially go on hiatus until EarthBound, which will mean being on hiatus forever. Thanks Nintendo!
While I'm thinking about, just wanted to post this tidbit after I followed the link in that Iwata financial briefing thread...
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/080425qa/04.html
Why I'm still optimistic at this point, even I don't know, but there you have it.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/080425qa/04.html
Just so we can be clear in the future about who we can blame. Unless I'm misunderstanding what he means--which is certainly a possibility with phrasing like that.
I'm willing to that believe IGN wasn't making up what they said in their last podcast about having spoken with developers who claimed to have many VC titles ready and waiting to be put up if Nintendo would just get around to it. With that said, I think NOA could have had some games prepared in advance.kassatsu said:
Why I'm still optimistic at this point, even I don't know, but there you have it.
Iam Canadian
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Gradius II is definitely something to look forward to. I'm a Gradius fan, so I definitely want to try it.
I still want Parodius, though. Do the right thing, Konami.
Iam Canadian
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Well, that bodes somewhat well. With Star Parodier and Final Soldier on the horizon, it seems that Konami, through Hudson, seems comfortable with putting up shooters requiring no real translation up as imports on the VC. The SNES Parodius games need no real translation; I believe that the first SNES Parodius was even released in Europe.
I just really want Parodius. I daresay I might even enjoy the Parodius games more than the actual Gradius games, though I've only played the original and Gradius III. Jiggy, even a non-Gradius fan like yourself should at least give Parodius a try. I don't know what it is that you don't like about Gradius, but the Parodius games are just a lot of fun.
I just really want Parodius. I daresay I might even enjoy the Parodius games more than the actual Gradius games, though I've only played the original and Gradius III. Jiggy, even a non-Gradius fan like yourself should at least give Parodius a try. I don't know what it is that you don't like about Gradius, but the Parodius games are just a lot of fun.
I couldn't remember what I didn't like about Gradius either, so I looked up the PCE version of Gradius II on YouTube. While watching the entire first level, I was thinking, "Huh, this is pretty cool. Maybe not $9 cool, but why did I not like this series again?" Then I kept watching and the player got to one of those segments with an enormous net of that destructible mesh-looking stuff that practically fills the screen and I remembered. :| That stuff and terrain that could change without warning, forcing level memorization, always annoyed me since I'd rather play a more reactionary type of shooter.
With that said, the Parodius series is too colorful and charming for me to overlook.
With that said, the Parodius series is too colorful and charming for me to overlook.
Cheesemeister
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Iwata said:
...Uh, what?
Iam Canadian
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Jiggy37 said:
Well, I've only played part of the first SNES title, but it seemed to have pretty fair level design. There were some sections with altering terrain (including a rather frustrating section with moving trees or something like that) but I found that it was manageable and could be dealt with without too much memorization. At least give it a try. From what I played, it seemed easier than the traditional Gradius games.
One of my favourite aspects of the series are the multiple playable characters, each with their own weapon setups. It adds a lot of replay value and a lot of the characters are actually homages to other Konami games.
Plus, the weapons are insane. With a few Options and a Ripple Laser, the entire screen just gets flooded with your shots. Your firepower can get even more extreme than it can in Blazing Lazers.
Segata Sanshiro
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Well, that's a pretty big clue that points at... something.Cheesemeister said:
Kobun Heat
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Versus WiiWare.Cheesemeister said:
I'm not sure what everybody's getting at here, but I read the context of that VC quote as Nintendo's share of Virtual Console revenue being proportionally larger than Nintendo's share of WiiWare revenue. Eh, maybe I should just quote the whole thing. Edit: Beaten, kind of.
Edit 2: Actually, reading this over again, is he implying that Nintendo submits VC games to rating boards rather than the other publishers?
I agree; even without having played it, that's a huge selling point to me. Same kind of thing with Star Parodier, although that only has three characters.Iam Canadian said:
Nuclear Muffin
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Nintendo acts as the publisher for Virtual Console games so they get a larger share of the profits than Wii Ware.
How long did the previous Hanabi Festival last, wasn't it 2 weeks last time?
How long did the previous Hanabi Festival last, wasn't it 2 weeks last time?
WiiRevolution1
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*looks at new thread title*
haha if you think one game a week is tough wait till May 12th where there ZERO VC games! :lol
haha if you think one game a week is tough wait till May 12th where there ZERO VC games! :lol
WiiRevolution1
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lsslave said:
Um...Im not complaining...I was just saying it thats all..
I plan to buy almost every launch title.
Just wonder when we'll get the pr telling us the launch games...
Kobun Heat
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Jiggy37 said:
They must be, which means that we can now safely eliminate "ESRB fees" off the list of potential reasons that Virtual Console sucks.
I do love that the mounds of evidence keep piling up.
But seriously: I legitimately haven't decided whether I'll be more likely to complain if no VC games are put up that day or to give a free pass to Nintendo for one week only. I think WiiWare is shaping up very well and I definitely wish for its success, so I may not be inclined to go criticizing Nintendo on that particular day. We'll see.
If there are zero VC games put up on that day, I'll be sure to allocate my time appropriately so that I won't merely be limited to playing Gyrostarr, playing LostWinds, possibly playing other WiiWare launch titles that have definitely caught my interest but that I'm not yet fully sold on (Star Soldier R, Toki Tori, Defend Your Castle), and possibly playing other WiiWare titles that I would buy if they actually made the launch (Family Ping Pong, Dr. Mario, World of Goo), but also have time to come to the VC thread and fire complaints at Nintendo.WiiRevolution1 said:
But seriously: I legitimately haven't decided whether I'll be more likely to complain if no VC games are put up that day or to give a free pass to Nintendo for one week only. I think WiiWare is shaping up very well and I definitely wish for its success, so I may not be inclined to go criticizing Nintendo on that particular day. We'll see.
Baron_Calamity
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I wish nintendo would make a Wii ware of Donkey Kong but jazz it up like Pacman C.E.
evilromero
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That would great considering they took out one of the stages in the NES version.Baron_Calamity said:
SonicMegaDrive
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I'd prefer a Donkey Kong 2(Sequel to GB version) on the WiiWare.
But that's a really good idea, and I hope Nintendo has thought of something similar.
Okay, I've got a slight modification on the perennial "which is the best shmup on VC":
Which is the *most accessible* good shmup on (EU) VC?
I like the genre, but I'm rubbish; something which isn't stunningly challenging like many can be would be ideal. To put my skill in perspective: I've completed Axelay, and that's about it. And that was back when it was new, so I've probably lost most of my skills since then anyway.
Any suggestions?
Which is the *most accessible* good shmup on (EU) VC?
I like the genre, but I'm rubbish; something which isn't stunningly challenging like many can be would be ideal. To put my skill in perspective: I've completed Axelay, and that's about it. And that was back when it was new, so I've probably lost most of my skills since then anyway.
Any suggestions?
Baron_Calamity
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evilromero said:
Thats one thing that ticks me off about Nintendo. They have never made a decent home version of Donkey Kong. You have to drag out an Atari 800 to find a decent port.
evilromero
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I wouldn't count on the game ever coming to the VC. Your best bet is to hit up ebay.Y2Kev said:I feel so weird for really, really wanting Castlevania 64. I really want to play it but I have no way to do so right now.
evilromero
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I agree with Konami's support but so far there is no precedent for third party N64 games coming to the VC. And I would wage to guess that if some begin to appear Castlevania would be pretty low on the list.Y2Kev said:
So I'm guessing that we're not getting early VC Update news today with the banning of JSnake...
As always, I have my fingers crossed for Shining Force II. I was waiting for Phantasy Star IV, but a recent purchase of the Sega Genesis Collection has taken care of that. VC really needs more rpgs though.
As always, I have my fingers crossed for Shining Force II. I was waiting for Phantasy Star IV, but a recent purchase of the Sega Genesis Collection has taken care of that. VC really needs more rpgs though.
Segata Sanshiro
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Wow, I went fishing for why JSnake was banned and boy was that a fun read.
Let us all hope for the great Shining Force II to appear. As ever, it *could* happen!
Let us all hope for the great Shining Force II to appear. As ever, it *could* happen!
WiiRevolution1
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kswiston said:
Wait WHAT? Why was he banned? *looks through thread*
Gah must find answer!
EDIT: I cant find it :lol
Aw well I'll have to get the pr from the other site I know him on.
EDIT2: Aw I found it :lol
EDIT3: After reading Chrush's post...maybe I did'nt find it...aw well better stay out've it..
Segata Sanshiro
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For what it's worth, he actually deserved the ban.
I'm guessing that the picture he posted involved hitting women.
So he's a 15-year-old on Viagra who ejaculates blood, is controlled by his mother, has to go to bed after 9:30PM, isn't allowed to have a girlfriend, prides himself on getting Nintendo news, plans on being a games journalist, and jokes about domestic violence.
Man.
Someone once sent me a link to his old Photobucket for some reason. Never seen so many Photoshopped Naruto and Pokemon signatures and avatars in my life. Not to mention the emo-ish MySpace-style pics.
So he's a 15-year-old on Viagra who ejaculates blood, is controlled by his mother, has to go to bed after 9:30PM, isn't allowed to have a girlfriend, prides himself on getting Nintendo news, plans on being a games journalist, and jokes about domestic violence.
Man.
Someone once sent me a link to his old Photobucket for some reason. Never seen so many Photoshopped Naruto and Pokemon signatures and avatars in my life. Not to mention the emo-ish MySpace-style pics.