Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]

SuperPac said:
I don't remember that being part of it. I'm pretty sure Midway still owns it. If Btoads was part of the Microsoft deal then why the hell haven't they put it up on XBLA? That would've been a nice bump for the Arcade service... Ugh.
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RARE's ingornance of XBLA is pretty baffling all around. You'd think the suits at MS would want their handheld team refocused on it rather than making games for a competitor.
 
jarrod said:
RARE's ingornance of XBLA is pretty baffling all around. You'd think the suits at MS would want their handheld team refocused on it rather than making games for a competitor.
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Agreed.
 
Nintendo is not a competitor for MS in the handheld market. As far as MS is concerned, DS is just another way to make some money there. Definitely pretty unique, but look at the Rare games and Age of Empires.
 
borghe said:
Nintendo is not a competitor for MS in the handheld market. As far as MS is concerned, DS is just another way to make some money there. Definitely pretty unique, but look at the Rare games and Age of Empires.
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Well, now there Zune. And MGS may think the RARE investment would be better served by pushing the Xbox platform in all possible areas rather than letting their million dollar baby make Diddy Kong Racing DS.... I wouldn't count on indefinite RARE/Nintendo handheld stuff logically...
 
They're CERO rated too. Not sure that blows that theory out of the water. But the games they have that we don't are largely bigger, longer games.
 
What is up with the but ugly menu for the games?

I always thought these were pretty neat:

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Actually, I like the current game screens, especially more than those. We don't need a giant image of the console that takes up more space than the game itself.
 
Kevar said:
Actually, I like the current game screens, especially more than those. We don't need a giant image of the console that takes up more space than the game itself.
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you're right, but it WOULD have been cool to implement those boxarts somewhere
 
All I want is Super Metroid. And Kirby Superstar. And maybe Secret of Mana...That's all.
I DREAM about Europe getting one day Earthbound, Final Fantasy 6 or Chrono Trigger, but we all know what is the reality :( .
 
Yeah, I was sad when I finally hooked up to the Japanese VC off of my import Wii and saw STREET FIGHTER II. O_O

Hey john, is it possible to buy japanese VC stuff outside of Japan, or will I have to somehow snag a Wii Points card from Japan before attempting to feel the love that is the jp VC?

EDIT: nvm, I just purchased jp Wii points with my US debit card. >=D
 
Bearillusion said:
Are high scores for games saved at all? Like NES DK for example.
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Only as much as the save state. That is, if you leave the game and return it will go right back to where you left off, and the high score will remain. If you choose to Reset the game, though, the score resets to the default.
 
I got SFII and Gradius last night. Gradius made me cry happy tears.

And now as I got to really work out the d-pad on the Classic for SFII, I must say this. It's not good. =( It's easier to pull of the movements on the analog vs. the d-pad. I need to give it more time, but attempting Shoryukens on the classic d-pad was a chore.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Only as much as the save state. That is, if you leave the game and return it will go right back to where you left off, and the high score will remain. If you choose to Reset the game, though, the score resets to the default.
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My high score is saved in Bomberman..
 
So why aren't Capcom and Konami on the VC train in the US? Is it just that their US offices are slow to react, or what?

Why have major publishers been phenomenally slow to get on the bandwagon with either VC or XBLA? EA's got a wealth of Genesis games they could put on VC...is it that they'd rather sell people that PSP compilation?
 
oreelios said:
My high score is saved in Bomberman..
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Ahh, well, Bomberman can save your position in the single-player game anyway, can't it? So the original probably saved the high score as well. So perhaps I should've said that it doesn't seem to add this in if the game originally didn't have it, except through save state. At least, I specifically noticed it resetting in Mario Bros. when I told it to Reset.
 
SuperPac said:
So why aren't Capcom and Konami on the VC train in the US? Is it just that their US offices are slow to react, or what?

Why have major publishers been phenomenally slow to get on the bandwagon with either VC or XBLA? EA's got a wealth of Genesis games they could put on VC...is it that they'd rather sell people that PSP compilation?
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What I'm curious about is how the hell did GameTap of all people work out deals to get a bunch of games on their service...is Ted Turner really that influential?? lol

Konami = 13 games on there
Capcom = 43 games
Sega = about 100 games

wtf??
 
God this thread brings back sweet memories...

Battletoads is one of the greatest NES games ever. Really! Unbelievable graphics and music... and do i have to mention the graphical STYLE ! Haters burn in lavah...


Megaman 2 cover is legendary :) But feast your eyes on this baby!

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Oh my god i laughed my ass off when i saw this the first time. But seriously Megaman-series is the BEST on NES. Goes even beyond Marios and such... in my books at least.





Yes and my opinion about VC is pretty negative. The games are just too Focking pricey. Its not even impossible to find some of the titles ORIGINAL for the same price.

And some Genesis etc titles are available in these 40 in 1 games for psp and so on. They are cheap at least.
 
I can't understand the reluctance either. The only explanaitions I can think of are that Nintendo/MS doesn't want 3rd parties stealing their thunder. Which would be pretty stupid, if anything delay 1st party games like they apparently did with MP3.

The other possibility is exclusivity deals. Could it be that certain games are being released on VC in Japan because the right to their downloadable version in Europe/US is held by someone else?

Maybe there's just more work involved in putting these online than we think, getting the game converted, rated by ESRB or whoever, approved by MS/Nintendo. maybe some companies don't see it as worth while. I'm not familiar with GameTap, but is it an emulator based system? If so then there's probably less work involved in getting it to work, whereas with the consoles it seems it's a little more than just dumping a ROM with some DRM on a server.
 
People complaining about the lack of titles in the US SHUT THE **** UP!

Nintendo just released the lineup for Europe for the launch this Friday. It's got to be a joke...

France, Denmark, Finland, UK, Germany, Italy, Greek, Portugal and Spain:

- Donkey Dong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)

Norway, Belgium, Austria, Irland, Luxenbourg, Swiss and Sweden:

- Donkey Kong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- The Legend of Zelda (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)
- Dungeon Explorer (TurboGrafx)
- Victory Run (TurboGrafx)


Seriously, i think this might be so not true, it would be SO lame...

Ok, it's just on one page and it got no real source, it says GoNintendo, don't know. I think I'll just wait.
 
CoolS said:
People complaining about the lack of titles in the US SHUT THE **** UP!

Nintendo just released the lineup for Europe for the launch this Friday. It's got to be a joke...

France, Denmark, Finland, UK, Germany, Italy, Greek, Portugal and Spain:

- Donkey Dong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)

Norway, Belgium, Austria, Irland, Luxenbourg, Swiss and Sweden:

- Donkey Kong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- The Legend of Zelda (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)
- Dungeon Explorer (TurboGrafx)
- Victory Run (TurboGrafx)


Seriously, i think this might be so not true, it would be SO lame...

Ok, it's just on one page and it got no real source, it says GoNintendo, don't know. I think I'll just wait.
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and you'd think nintendo would want the two best games for the european launch to be from a nintendo system...
 
LakeEarth said:
I still can't believe November is over and there are only 17 VC games. I know Nintendo has a history of ignoring quantity, but if they're trying to make an 'iTunes' I think they should really triple the game amount and soon.
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"Nothing personal. It's just business"

Games like Mario Bros and Baseball wouldn't sell any numbers if there were already a large selection of titles. Instead, only the top favorites would sell. Better to trickle the games out and squeeze more sales out of lesser titles. Especially since later sequels of some titles make some of the originals obsolete. Like how it makes no sense to release both Street Fighter 2 and Hyper Street Fighter 2 at the same time, or how Super Metroid is much better than Metroid, etc.

Of course, they could just charge less for lesser titles, but since Xbox Live has shown that people are willing to go the $5 minimum and $10 max, thats probably even less appealing. Can't do an "Itunes" like gaming service right off the bat.

What I don't get is the differences in releases in each region though. Why the hell does Japan already have Street Fighter 2 and we dont? Obviously it would sell over here just as well. Maybe its because their initial lineup was too weak for Japan, so they needed more Japanese top sellers?
 
CoolS said:
People complaining about the lack of titles in the US SHUT THE **** UP!

Nintendo just released the lineup for Europe for the launch this Friday. It's got to be a joke...

France, Denmark, Finland, UK, Germany, Italy, Greek, Portugal and Spain:

- Donkey Dong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)

Norway, Belgium, Austria, Irland, Luxenbourg, Swiss and Sweden:

- Donkey Kong (NES)
- Mario Bros. (NES)
- Wario’s Woods (NES)
- The Legend of Zelda (NES)
- Bomberman 93 (TurboGrafx)
- Super Star Soldier (TurboGrafx)
- Dungeon Explorer (TurboGrafx)
- Victory Run (TurboGrafx)


Seriously, i think this might be so not true, it would be SO lame...

Ok, it's just on one page and it got no real source, it says GoNintendo, don't know. I think I'll just wait.
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WHAT?? If that's true it sucks, and why split Europe like that?

I will enjoy playing on Donkey Dong though o_O
 
Anyone notice that the Megadrive games are 600points in Japan?! That's about $5, rather than the 800points we are paying in the US... :(
 
thaivo said:
Anyone notice that the Megadrive games are 600points in Japan?! That's about $5, rather than the 800points we are paying in the US... :(
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Yes, and that's why I'll be buying Genesis games from the JP VC over the US VC. I mean, what constitutes the price change?
 
CoolS said:
People complaining about the lack of titles in the US SHUT THE **** UP!

Nintendo just released the lineup for Europe for the launch this Friday. It's got to be a joke...
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I'm actually relieved, there were talks about us not getting any TurboGrafx games. And I really want to play Bonk's Adventure. The line-up is a bit lacking, yes, but I think we will get most if not all games released in the US relatively soon.
 
donkey show said:
Yes, and that's why I'll be buying Genesis games from the JP VC over the US VC. I mean, what constitutes the price change?
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Regional popularity? SEGA can't exactly get away with charging SFC prices in Japan... I bet Hudson could for some PCE stuff though actually.
 
My only thing that I can think of besides buying a JP Wii is maybe rerouting the host server for the US Wii Store to the JP Wii Store, similar to that Wii Store browser trick. If that works, the only question would be if the games themselves were compatible with the US firmware.

Buying wouldn't be an issue though since I use my US Visa CC to buy JP VC games.
 
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=12493

Virtual Console games for countries in PAL regions are now available, though the Wii itself will not be launched until next week. Interestingly, games are being released by country rather than region.

The TurboGrafx system never made it to Australia and New Zealand, and those countries will again not receive TurboGrafx games. Their initial Virtual Console selection is limited to three NES choices, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., and Wario's Woods.

The European countries of Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain get those three NES games as well as three TurboGrafx games, Bomberman '93, Bonk's Adventure, and Super Star Soldier.

Austria, Belgium, Ireland, Norway, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Sweden, and Switzerland are a little luckier with an additional three games available. They can also purchase The Legend of Zelda for NES, and Dungeon Explorer and Victory Run for TurboGrafx.

More games and countries may be added before the Australian and European launches, which occur on December 7th and 8th, respectively.
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I hate Nintendo Australia so much. SO. MUCH. Miss out on TurboGrafx COMPLETELY. AGAIN. AND THREE BLOODY STUPID NES GAMES. America can never whinge again. Just think about my generic e-rage. ;_;
 
donkey show said:
My only thing that I can think of besides buying a JP Wii is maybe rerouting the host server for the US Wii Store to the JP Wii Store, similar to that Wii Store browser trick. If that works, the only question would be if the games themselves were compatible with the US firmware.

Buying wouldn't be an issue though since I use my US Visa CC to buy JP VC games.
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Can you still od the DNS trick? I thought the new update killed that?

Can someone who can still do this try it, sounds like a plan? You'd need JP VC points though.
 
Virtual Console games for countries in PAL regions are now available, though the Wii itself will not be launched until next week.
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Give them a chance to prepare the VC without us sneaking around. There's still 4-5 days 'till the release of Wii in those regions and I'm sure they're during the uploading process now. I wouldn't take it for good, if I were you.

Although, if it's true. Damn them... Damn~~
 
Yeah 3 NES games does sound like rape, but a couple days prior there was nothing up at all. Im sure we'll see more then 3 games. PLZ
 
Bo130 said:
Give them a chance to prepare the VC without us sneaking around. There's still 4-5 days 'till the release of Wii in those regions and I'm sure they during the uploading process now. I wouldn't take it for good, if I were you.

Although, if it's true. Damn them... Damn~~
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Hopefully you're right. I think there will be uproar if we get such a shitty treatment.
 
VOOK said:
Yeah 3 NES games does sound like rape, but a couple days prior there was nothing up at all. Im sure we'll see more then 3 games. PLZ
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Quoted and bolded for desperation. Hear our pleas!
 
It would be rediculous NOT to get some god damn TG games, since all the old games need to be re-rated anyhow. It's more up to Hudson to do it, but I don't know who distributes their games here. There is a Komani Australia, but it looks like they only deal with Pachinko / Slot machines.

Edit: ****, it's Atari Australia who distribute Konami games. If they're anything like the old Ozisoft, they've got no clue whatsoever.

VOOOOOOK! Get on it!

I'm really dissapointed that Nintendo didn't go for a collective system for all areas, because we're going to get stiffed royally.
 
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