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Official College Football Thread 2004!

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marko

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Man, never know what to expect in college football. Mich St, after looking dominant beating Wisconsin, comes back and loses by 24 to Penn St???

Auburn losing to Alabama at half (although I do expect auburn to win). OSU beating Michigan was nice.
 

Brendonia

"Edge stole Big Ben's helmet"
I was at the PSU - Mich. St. game today, and it was sweet. I'm a PSU student so it's been tough the last couple of years, but really, we're not the worst team in the Big Ten. Illinois and Indiana come to mind first of all, and our defense is sick. Today the offense finally showed something and we blew out a pretty good MSU team. Apparantely Derrick Williams, the #1 recruit in the nation was at the game today, which is great news, because the team finally pulled it together. If we get him after having two years like this it would be incredible, especially considering we already got Justin King, the best DB and #9 overall prospect in the country. It's nice to finally have a game like that here against a decent team, it's been a while.
 
Well, looks like Michigan makes it to the Rose Bowl anyway. Wisconsin sure fell off fast, didn't they?

(And I'll continue to be amused at Iowa being ranked higher than an Arizona State team that blasted them by 30+ points earlier in the season.)

Also, if Washington State loses to Washington in the Worst Apple Cup Game In History today, I'll laugh. Haha.
 

Bowser

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UNC beat Duke 40-17, became bowl eligible, and got back the Victory Bell. All in all, a good day for UNC football :D
 
SUCK IT DOWN MORMONS! 45-21 with 9:00 to go in the 4th!!!

GO UTES!!!

Think I'll go see Spongebob now, and Tivo the rest of the massacre for later tonight.
 

MASB

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It's getting to the point that going to a bowl game isn't much of an honor anymore. I wonder how many 6-5 teams will be in a bowl game this year. :p At this rate, I can't wait for 10 years from now, when a team with a losing record makes a bowl game.

As for the SC-Clemson game, I'm just glad Lou Holtz made it out of the game unhurt. :p

And hopefully Steve Spurrier at SC will make the SEC East even more interesting.
 

Vicious

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Florida upsets FSU. What a great moment, with the Gators carrying Ron Zook on their shoulders.

That was such a nice scene after the recent fighting this weekend in sports. Man, what a game.
 
Cerebral Palsy said:
SUCK IT DOWN MORMONS! 45-21 with 9:00 to go in the 4th!!!

GO UTES!!!

Think I'll go see Spongebob now, and Tivo the rest of the massacre for later tonight.

I was at the game last night, it was INSANE! with 4 minutes left to go, the student section emptied onto the field and was standing along the sidelines chanting "UNDEFEATED" and "B-C-S, B-C-S"

it was so awesome!
and the last touchdown for utah was classis. Finainai (#94, huge lineman) was put in as tailback, lol. He was a senior and just wanted to score I guess, haha

btw--the afterparty at alex smith's house was insane, I love college. :D
 
impirius said:
Well, that was just disgraceful all around.

I knew something had to give when a bunch of the south carolina players went to the hill to taunt the clemson players as they made their entrance. I just knew the game wouldn't end well. Oh well, at least the whole country knows who we are now.
 

Ripclawe

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http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=2600624
NEW YORK Fox will be the new television home of the Bowl Championship Series.

The network and the B-C-S announced a four-year, 80 (m) million dollar deal today that gives Fox the broadcast rights to the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls from 2007-to-2010 and the national title game from 2007-to-2009.

A-B-C has held the broadcast rights to the B-C-S since college football's major conferences implemented the system to crown a national champion in 1998.

A-B-C withdrew from the bidding last week, with network officials saying they were unhappy with the new B-C-S structure, which added a fifth game. Starting with the 2006 season, the national title game will be played at the site of either the Fiesta, Orange, Sugar and Rose bowls the week after those games are played.

The new structure would allow greater access to the B-C-S and increase the number of teams involved from eight to 10.
 

cubanb

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Hey Cyan,
Scary article on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=roadtobcs/1121

Although Texas did not play on Saturday, the Longhorns narrowed the margin between themselves and California in the coaches' poll from 89 points to 39 points, despite Cal's 35-point victory. In the AP poll, the Bears' advantage dipped from 108 points to 90.

Who knows what prompted this significant turn of events, but all of a sudden, Texas is close enough to Cal in the BCS Standings that an impressive win over Texas A&M could possibly give the Horns hope of moving up one very important spot. COULD is not the same as WILL, but it's more of an opportunity than Texas thought it had a week ago

The simple solution to this new crisis for Cal would seem to be a loss by Texas against Texas A&M. But even that could open the door for an entirely new disaster scenario. The rule that would allow either Cal or Texas to get a BCS at-large spot by being ranked in the top four is contingent upon a spot still being available after a previous rule is applied. That previous rule is the one that allows any team not from a BCS conference to get an at-large bid by being ranked in the final top 6. But it does not restrict the number of teams that can qualify that way.

A loss by Texas would likely move Utah up to No. 5 in the BCS Standings and open the door for either Boise State or Louisville to possibly jump into the No. 6 position. Right now, those teams are very close with Georgia and Miami for the No. 7 spot in the standings. If Utah is ranked fifth in the BCS and either Boise State or Louisville is sixth at the end of the year, then those two teams would get the BCS at-large bids, and Cal -- even if ranked No. 4 -- would be left out of the Bowl Championship Series.

In addition to being a raw deal for the Bears, this would also put the Rose Bowl in the very difficult position of having to choose an opponent for Michigan from among the ACC champion (likely Virginia Tech or Miami), the Big East champion (likely Boston College) and the two non-BCS schools. The Rose Bowl has already taken it on the chin a few times from the BCS, but that would be by far the worst misfortune yet.
 

impirius

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Azwethinkweiz said:
I knew something had to give when a bunch of the south carolina players went to the hill to taunt the clemson players as they made their entrance. I just knew the game wouldn't end well. Oh well, at least the whole country knows who we are now.
Well, in a roundabout way, I was right about Clemson not going bowling.. heh. And neither is South Carolina. Dammit.

Congrats on the victory and the last half of the season... too bad for everyone in SC that things ended the way they did.
 
Cyan said:
But those weren't even computers or anything, those were the human polls. Human voters aren't going to count a bye week as better than a complete walloping of an arch-rival... are they?

:(

C'mon, you beat Stanford, thats like kicking a chiuaua.
 
Chesapeake Silt said:
Yeah, it's almost as bad as nearly getting beaten by Kansas.

Thats just because Vince was bored. You be 6'5, 250 lb quarterback thats made out of butter (he has to be, there is no other explination) and try not to be bored.
 

impirius

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Time to put the past behind us...

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Welcome, Coach Spurrier!
 

DJ Sl4m

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I think it's great Spurrier is going to SC, now all the teams in the SEC can continue hating him, while Florida can seek revenge on his cry baby ass.

wooooooo
 
sugar bowl wants Utah v Auburn at all costs, now THAT would be a good game!

BTW USC FANS, UTAH BEAT BYU BY MORE THAN YOU DID IN A RIVALRY SITUATION, SUCK IT DOWN.
 
Cyan said:
I'm not sure which would be worse, Texas kicking us out of the Rose Bowl, or Boise State. On the one hand, Texas is a good team. They're probably almost as good as us, ;) whereas Boise State isn't even close.

On the other hand, Texas has been a good team for a long time. They've had plenty of chances to play in this kind of high-profile bowl game. Boise State hasn't. Cal, too, come to think of it. It's been many years for us.

Screw 'em both. Cal for the Rose Bowl!

But c'mon, it would be really funny to see Boise State vs Micihigan or something in the rose bowl, and BC vs Utah in the Fiesta. I think if that were to happen, The Big 12, Pac 10, and the Rose Bowl would all be extremly pissed and hopefully be able to change something.
 

marko

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ConfusingJazz said:
But c'mon, it would be really funny to see Boise State vs Micihigan or something in the rose bowl, and BC vs Utah in the Fiesta. I think if that were to happen, The Big 12, Pac 10, and the Rose Bowl would all be extremly pissed and hopefully be able to change something.

They are already plans for a fifth BCS bowl. In a year like this, that would help. But honestly, this is the first year in 8 that there will be a mid major in a BCS bowl. If this was a common occurrence, then I could see your point about change. In fact, I bet the BCS is glad to get a non BCS team in a BCS bowl, helps show that there is not a strangle hold on BCS bowls by BCS teams, since there has been a lot of pressure on it in the past.
 

cubanb

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Cyan said:
I'm not sure which would be worse, Texas kicking us out of the Rose Bowl, or Boise State. On the one hand, Texas is a good team. They're probably almost as good as us, ;) whereas Boise State isn't even close.

On the other hand, Texas has been a good team for a long time. They've had plenty of chances to play in this kind of high-profile bowl game. Boise State hasn't. Cal, too, come to think of it. It's been many years for us.

Screw 'em both. Cal for the Rose Bowl!
unbelievable that boise state, a team that had trouble with one of the WORST teams in the nation, San Jose state, could make a major bowl while cal could miss out
 

Miguel

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I've got a Rockets one in the works if they don't turn this shit around too.

Argh. Being a Houston sports fan is hard hard work. :(
 

Lathentar

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Cyan said:
Argh, Vince Young, you bastard. If Texas fucks this up for us... man. My pissed-offness will be unequaled in the annals of human history.

Edit: Nice avatar, Mig. ;)
I almost want Texas to lose just to fuck over Cal. I really don't care if Texas goes to the Holiday Bowl again.
 

Miguel

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Cyan said:
The fuck just happened there? A 1-point safety?

:lol

The holder botched the hold...kicker kicks it...Aggie player picks it up at the 3...hit and fumbles...
A&M recovers in the endzone. Safety. :lol
 
I think Texas passes Cal, because Arizona State choked against Arizona. Really shitty loss, and it'll drop ASU in all the computer polls - they've been a bit inflated because their only two losses were to highly ranked USC and Cal. ASU dropping dings Cal in their computer rankings. Maybe Utah v. Michigan in the Rose Bowl? I'd certainly rather see PAC10 v. Big10 in the Rose Bowl, so I hope I'm off on this one.
 
Cyan said:
Good work, Texas. Now we just have to hope you didn't play well enough to advance on us in the polls. Although if voters are consistent, we'll gain votes for having a bye.

The funny thing is, if somehow Cal and Texas both get passed over for a BCS bowl, they'll probably end up playing each other in the Holiday Bowl. Now that'd be something to see.

Nah, we won't go to the Holiday Bowl, we like to mix it up every once in a while, this year we are going to the Cotton Bowl. I am really getting sick of these 2 bowls. The 1999, 2000, 2003 Cotton Bowls and the 2000, 2001, 2003 Holiday Bowls. Hook 'em!

You would think with 5 straight 10 win seasons, we would somehow accidently stumble into a BCS Bowl. Or twice finishing the regular season in the number 5 slot.

I hate the BCS.

Oh, POOOOOOR AG-GIES! :D
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
I have a friend with a spreadsheet that was convinced a 7 point or more Texas win would allow us to jump Cal. However, the Arizona State loss may help Cal as dumb as it sounds. One of the computers has ASU ahead of Cal, and one has them ahead of Texas. For Texas it doesnt matter because that is the worst of their computer polls (so its thrown out along with their best). So Cal is in a stronger position because one of their opponents is now worse than they were before today. The BCS is a steaming pile of shit.

Something tells me Texas will jump Cal still, especially if UAB can beat Southern Miss tommorow (and Mizzou can beat Iowa State)... but it is highly shitty that either Texas or Cal wont be in a BCS bowl so that Virginia Tech and Boston College can make it.

Of course with Texas luck the last few years OU will drop a big egg to Iowa State in the Big 12 championship game.

Edit: If Cal goes to the Holiday bowl you can expect to play Oklahoma State or Aggy. Probably OSU. We are either in Cotton against LSU or in the Rose bowl against Meeechigan.
 

marko

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Pittsburgh. ^^^ for the question above, Pittsburgh with a win over South Florida will get the big east bcs bid.
 

marko

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Cubsfan23 said:
Louisville is up 42-0 at Halftime. We will destroy anybody we play in our Bowl Game


Louisville is quite impressive. Will be a big boost to the big east next year.
 
VTech vs. Miami in a de facto ACC title game next week - that should be pretty cool.

Damn, Iowa State just owned themselves in OT - threw an interception. Colorado vs. Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game.
 
marko said:
Pittsburgh. ^^^ for the question above, Pittsburgh with a win over South Florida will get the big east bcs bid.
Ouch! that's really sad. WTF happened there, could the BSC and the Big East not renegotiate their contract after Miami and Va Tech moved out?
 

marko

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lilraylewis said:
Ouch! that's really sad. WTF happened there, could the BSC and the Big East not renegotiate their contract after Miami and Va Tech moved out?

You are either in BCS or out, so nothing to renegotiate. I suppose the BCS could of pulled the big east BCS bid, but honestly, the big east did not ask Miami and Vatech to leave (notice they are at the top of the ACC now, so which conference was really weak all these years?), and I think the BCS did the right thing by letting the big east keep it's BCS bowl bid. The BCS does have requirements to keep BCS eligibility (top 12 in BCS standings average over 4 years or something like that), so a Pittsburgh BCS bid does not help the big east in the future since they are quite low in the BCS standings.

Also, do not forget there have been other unremarkable teams in the BCS over the years (although Pittsburgh probably does take the cake). A 4 loss Florida St team in 2002 for example, plenty of other 3 loss teams.


What I think you will see happen, is a fifth BCS bowl game will be added, which mean the big east BCS bowl bid will not be as critical. You will also see the big east improve over time. Lousiville will step in and take position towards the top of the big east. Lousiville/WVU/Pittsburgh/Syracuse, and hopefully Uconn can continue improving, and Rutgers/Cincinnati/South Florida also improve.
 
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