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[Mr. Sam]

I know it's not the same but if the BBC shit Sherlock up like they did Merlin and Robin Hood then I'm going to start cracking skulls.

What happened to "In Moffat We Trust"?

 

[Keyser Soze]

Well should really be still exicted for Sherlock, why?

Shine Limited, the people behind Merlin made:

Got To Dance
Demons
Gladiators (2008)
The Biggest Loser
Masterchef Goes Large
The What in the World? Quiz
Battle of the Brains
Hex
Sugar Rush
Charles & Camilla: Madly In Love
The Unofficial World Records of Sex (UWROS)
100 Greatest Sexy Moments.
Merlin

...that's a pile of shit, so Merlin never had a chance. I did like Hex though (worth a fiver too).

Tiger Aspect, The people behind Robin Hood made:

Harry & Paul
Benidorm
Argumental
Ross Kemp on Gangs
White Girl
Double Time
The Vicar of Dibley
Mr Bean
Roman's Empire
May Contain Nuts
The Catherine Tate Show
The Monastery
Fat Friends
Crooked House
Paul Merton in India
Paul Merton in China
Prescott: The Class System and Me
The Thin Blue Line
The Lenny Henry Show
Murphy's Law
The Dame Edna Treatment
Swiss Toni
Robin Hood

...some decent, but much shit was in their past too

Hartswood Films, the people behind Sherlock made:

Carrie and Barry
Coupling
The Cup
Fear, Stress & Anger
Is It Legal?
Jekyll
Men Behaving Badly
The Savages
Supernova
Sherlock

...Some greats, a small bit of shit

Moffat wrote episode off:

Press Gang
Stay Lucky
Joking Apart
Murder Most Horrid
Chalk
Coupling
Doctor Who
Jekyll

...Bow, Bow, Bow

I remain excited for Sherlock

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

Swiss Toni

Wait what? There was a Swiss Tony program?

 

[Lard]

I know it's not the same but if the BBC shit Sherlock up like they did Merlin and Robin Hood then I'm going to start cracking skulls.

Jesus, Robin Hood was terrible.

Also, I'm glad to hear there are other people who like Donna.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Wait what? There was a Swiss Tony program?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000CCE26Y/

 

[WanderingWind]

I'M CLEVERER THAN YOU!

Eh. I'm not digging The Poison Sky. This plot device has been done to death in the episodes I've seen. Alien comes to earth, offers amazing technology that -surprise - is going to kill everbody. Companion makes emotional phone call home. Doctor tries to get everybody to listen to him, but they won't. Etc. Etc.

This one makes it worse, because UNIT brought him in especially for this purpose and they still won't listen. That's not clever, that's lazy writing.

The Santorans are good villains though. A whole race based off of the old British general stereotype. "I'd admire them. The bravery of the stupid is bravery nonetheless."

 

[Lard]

It's not the best episode for the Sontarans, admittedly.

The Invasion of Time is probably the best one (Fourth Doctor).

Edit - Santorans?

You made me think of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_(sexual_neologism)

 

[G-Fex]

I'M CLEVERER THAN YOU!

Eh. I'm not digging The Poison Sky. This plot device has been done to death in the episodes I've seen. Alien comes to earth, offers amazing technology that -surprise - is going to kill everbody. Companion makes emotional phone call home. Doctor tries to get everybody to listen to him, but they won't. Etc. Etc.

This one makes it worse, because UNIT brought him in especially for this purpose and they still won't listen. That's not clever, that's lazy writing.

The Santorans are good villains though. A whole race based off of the old British general stereotype. "I'd admire them. The bravery of the stupid is bravery nonetheless."

I wish Sontarans were real so I could hit one in the back of the neck with a hammer.

 

[RetroMG]

So next for you is the Doctor's Daughter. For extra creepy, keep in mind that David Tennant was (and may still be?) going out with the hot blond.

Also: You WILL believe that fish can drown!

 

[G-Fex]

So next for you is the Doctor's Daughter. For extra creepy, keep in mind that David Tennant was (and may still be?) going out with the hot blond.

Also: You WILL believe that fish can drown!

I can't believe he dumped the chick from the girl in the fireplace.

 

[Coeliacus]

I wish Sontarans were real so I could hit one in the back of the neck with a hammer.

Yes! The hollow metal sound feels like it would be so goddamn satisfying.

 

[RetroMG]

I can't believe he dumped the chick from the girl in the fireplace.

I always thought she dumped him, because she wanted to go to America to pursue a serious acting career... And ended up in Moonlight.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Silly David

Cool Dog!

 

[G-Fex]

I always thought she dumped him, because she wanted to go to America to pursue a serious acting career... And ended up in Moonlight.

If that's true that's a shame. David seems like a real nice guy, so does Matt.

Chris Ecclesion though? Hell no.

 

[mclem]

So next for you is the Doctor's Daughter. For extra creepy, keep in mind that David Tennant was (and may still be?) going out with the hot blond.

It's incestuous on so many levels without *actually* being incest!

 

[The Elite]

It's incestuous on so many levels without *actually* being incest!

I wonder if they ever role-play?

Hmmm...

 

[Nickiepoo]

David seems like a real nice guy.

Personally confirming this.

Anyone who saw him on stage in Hamlet alongside Patrick Stewart will know that he can act live too. Respect ++

 

[Dr Zhivago]

It's not the best episode for the Sontarans, admittedly.

The Invasion of Time is probably the best one (Fourth Doctor).

Invasion of Time is pretty terrible, the Vardans are amongst the worst ever baddies. Plus it was another episode that made the Time Lords look like complete morons.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

Invasion of Time is pretty terrible, the Vardans are amongst the worst ever baddies. Plus it was another episode that made the Time Lords look like complete morons.

I still think that "The Time Warrior" or perhaps "The Sontaran Experiment" are the best of the TV stories - you can't go too far wrong with Robert Holmes' script (Irongron!) and Linx and Styre are both pretty fun characters.

 

[WanderingWind]

"Guns are evil!"

"But I'm going to ignite their atmosphere and blow up the entire ship, killing them instantly."

:lol

The Poison Sky was sort of dumb. We got anti-car and anti-gun moralizing in one dumb repeat episode of basically half of the Earth based Doctor Who episodes. Plus Martha.

D-

On to the Doctor's Daughter.

EDIT: Oh, she's fucking smoking hot.

 

[Dr Zhivago]

"Guns are evil!"

"But I'm going to ignite their atmosphere and blow up the entire ship, killing them instantly."

But of course, he couldn't bring himself to do it.
Surely you liked the 'Are you my mummy?' line?

 

[WanderingWind]

But of course, he couldn't bring himself to do it.
Surely you liked the 'Are you my mummy?' line?

In 'The Empty Child?'

EDIT: The actors attraction in this is evident. It's very, very disturbing.

 

[Mr. Sam]

In 'The Empty Child?'

Tennant says it in The Poison Sky while wearing a gas mask.

 

[G-Fex]

In 'The Empty Child?'

EDIT: The actors attraction in this is evident. It's very, very disturbing.

No when the UNIT commander gave him a gas mask.

 

[WanderingWind]

Tennant says it in The Poison Sky while wearing a gas mask.

Okay, I totally missed that goddamn it.

One sec.

EDIT: :lol Nice. "If you could concentrate..."

 

[Diablos54]

How could you miss like, the best bit of the episode? :lol

 

[WanderingWind]

How could you miss like, the best bit of the episode? :lol

Alcohol.

EDIT: Seriously, why did they pick somebody he was banging to be his 'daughter.' Body language is the hardest thing to fake. So are microexpression. She's TERRIBLE at hiding both and he's actually not much better.

EDIT2: When did he become such a whiny bitch? "You're an echo. Nothing more!" Wah.

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

Alcohol.

EDIT: Seriously, why did they pick somebody he was banging to be his 'daughter.' Body language is the hardest thing to fake. So are microexpression. She's TERRIBLE at hiding both and he's actually not much better.

To be fair, she is A Doctor's daughter. Just not THAT Doctor.

 

[JonathanEx]

Just a reminder of what Jenny looks like for those who may have forgot.

 

[WanderingWind]

Dumbest. Prison Guard. Ever.

AHAHAHAH. Donna got told to sit her fat, ugly ass down. "Why don't we save your 'feminine wiles' for later, eh?"

 

[G-Fex]

Hooray for hot daughters.

 

[WanderingWind]

I never get tired of the flexible girls ninja flipping through lasers bit.

....FISH CAN BREATHE UNDERWATER FUCKWADS. Great acting too, Martha. :lol

 

[KibblesBits]

I never get tired of the flexible girls ninja flipping through lasers bit.

....FISH CAN BREATHE UNDERWATER FUCKWADS. Great acting too, Martha. :lol

Oh no! Don't die! Oh.... he's dying! Oh no! Heeeeeelp!
Thanks for saving me, but don't die... *beat* Oh he's dead now. *goes about business*

Baaaaaaaad Writinnnnng! ...and acting. But can you blame her that time?

 

[WanderingWind]

Oh no! Don't die! Oh.... he's dying! Oh no! Heeeeeelp!
Thanks for saving me, but don't die... *beat* Oh he's dead now. *goes about business*

Baaaaaaaad Writinnnnng! ...and acting. But can you blame her that time?

I can, actually. Her cries of anguish were so bad.



Of course. They kill Jenny off for zero reason. Have to try to pull on those heartstrings one last time. Meh. The handwave to explain away the regeneration was nonsense, too.

His anger at her killer was cliched and we all knew nothing was going to happen. Pointless scene. And yes, Doctor. We've seen you kill people for far, far less. You also committed genocide, remember? You don't really have much room to talk.

EDIT: Oh, snaps.

 

[G-Fex]

I can, actually. Her cries of anguish were so bad.



Of course. They kill Jenny off for zero reason. Have to try to pull on those heartstrings one last time. Meh. The handwave to explain away the regeneration was nonsense, too.

His anger at her killer was cliched and we all knew nothing was going to happen. Pointless scene. And yes, Doctor. We've seen you kill people for far, far less. You also committed genocide, remember? You don't really have much room to talk.

Doctor probably should relieve his anger by beating more people up. I'd kill for a Doctor Who beat em up game.

Spoiler

not serious, though that would be a cool game

 

[WanderingWind]

I owned myself. She lives!

Doctor probably should relieve his anger by beating more people up. I'd kill for a Doctor Who beat em up game.

Spoiler

not serious, though that would be a cool game

Nah, not complaining that he doesn't often resort to violence. But some writers tend to forget that he does occasionally. I don't mind some moralizing but the context is a bit off, IMO. Maybe the older Doctors were less violent, but the new Who is fairly violent.

 

[HolyCheck]

I owned myself. She lives!

teehee!

There was a post a bit back saying it seemed like a great set up for a spin off, does seem so.

 

[WanderingWind]

The Unicorn and the Wasp.

Amazing dialogue.
"Typical. All the good men are on the other bus."
"Or Time Lords."

"Well, only one. But it was a good one."

Heh. Nice dig at the Charles Dickens silliness.

 

[Mr. Sam]

But she can't act. Or she's trying to play the character like the terminator. I can't tell.

 

[KibblesBits]

But she can't act. Or she's trying to play the character like the terminator. I can't tell.

Be more specific, this is Doctor Who. You could be referring to almost anyone.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Be more specific, this is Doctor Who. You could be referring to almost anyone.

I was gonna say they're not normally the focal point of their own spin-off. Then I remembered.

 

[maharg]

EDIT2: When did he become such a whiny bitch? "You're an echo. Nothing more!" Wah.

I always thought Ten was pretty whiney.

 

[mclem]

The Who half of the set list for the 2010 Doctor Who Prom has been announced:

The Madman with a Box (Prologue)
An Untimely Arrival
I am the Doctor
Battle in the Skies
Amy
Liz, Lizards, Vampires and Vincent
This is Gallifrey / Vale Decem
Pandorica Suite
Song of Freedom
Doctor Who Theme

An orchestral live Vale Decem should be incredible (once I'd confirmed which it was from a visit to Youtube. The video was, naturally, packed full of spoilers once I'd seen the context!). I hope "I am the Doctor" is the track occasionally suggested to be Eleven's theme. And not the minor pop hit from the eighties with a Pertwee voiceover...


Edit: Y'know, the writeup on Gallifrey Base's news page sounds like it's actually being played out *in character*. That'd be... interesting.

 

[Blader]

Be more specific, this is Doctor Who. You could be referring to almost anyone.

:lol

 

[Thomper]

The Who half of the set list for the 2010 Doctor Who Prom has been announced:

The Madman with a Box (Prologue)
An Untimely Arrival
I am the Doctor
Battle in the Skies
Amy
Liz, Lizards, Vampires and Vincent
This is Gallifrey / Vale Decem
Pandorica Suite
Song of Freedom
Doctor Who Theme

An orchestral live Vale Decem should be incredible (once I'd confirmed which it was from a visit to Youtube. The video was, naturally, packed full of spoilers once I'd seen the context!). I hope "I am the Doctor" is the track occasionally suggested to be Eleven's theme. And not the minor pop hit from the eighties with a Pertwee voiceover...


Edit: Y'know, the writeup on Gallifrey Base's news page sounds like it's actually being played out *in character*. That'd be... interesting.

I am childishly excited about being at the Saturday-prom, and fear for those around me about what I'll do if I see a Dalek. :lol

 

[Sober]

I always thought she dumped him, because she wanted to go to America to pursue a serious acting career... And ended up in Moonlight.

Except Moonlight was awesome, too bad it was just bad timing in retrospect.

Waiting to see WW's reaction to River Song ...

 

[Regulus Tera]

His anger at her killer was cliched and we all knew nothing was going to happen. Pointless scene. And yes, Doctor. We've seen you kill people for far, far less. You also committed genocide, remember? You don't really have much room to talk.

I blame this episode for making me dislike Moffat's two-parter later in the season.

No spoilers (or maybe yes?)!

 

[Eteric Rice]

Wandering, you must hurry and get to series 5. HURRY!

 

[Thomper]

The Sun made up a story about how Matt Smith is leaving after his second series. Don't believe The Sun, ever, but reading the comments is... wow. Half of the people are saying Smith's too ugly to do any acting, there's a few who want RTD back, and the others seem worried that, as there's only 13 Doctors possible, they'll have to end the show soon if actors keep leaving this quickly. Because it'd be impossible for the show to continue after 13 Doctors. :lol

Though reading that does make me think: there's probably enough 'fans' out there who'll make a fuss about the 13th Doctor being the last possible Doctor. Stuff like the Sun and the Daily Mirror will probably try to spin a story out of that about how the BBC is 'ruining' the 'epic story' of Doctor Who by going back on the Time Lord legacy if they go beyond a 13th, so... I hope/guess that might mean they'll have to address that on the show, when we get to that, quite specifically, to shut those critics up. Because it looks like these tabloids will try anything to work up a Who-shitstorm.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

The Sun made up a story about how Matt Smith is leaving after his second series. Don't believe The Sun, ever, but reading the comments is... wow. Half of the people are saying Smith's too ugly to do any acting, there's a few who want RTD back, and the others seem worried that, as there's only 13 Doctors possible, they'll have to end the show soon if actors keep leaving this quickly. Because it'd be impossible for the show to continue after 13 Doctors. :lol

I'd be massively disappointed if Matt Smith left after series 2. I'm also constantly surprised at the dislike for him, or for Moffat's run on the series so far, as it seems to me to be such a leap above what came before it in terms of quality.