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OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD MEANS ALL ELECTION-RELATED STUFF GOES IN HERE, DUR
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The odds of a dead tie among over 4,000,000 people though?
The gap is so big now, the provisional votes even if every single one first counted, and then every single one went to Kerry he still wouldnt win. Jesus stop dragging it on .. its 4AM .. I wanna know who won and goto sleep.
The gap is so big now, the provisional votes even if every single one first counted, and then every single one went to Kerry he still wouldnt win. Jesus stop dragging it on .. its 4AM .. I wanna know who won and goto sleep.
Funky Papa
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I respect the decision of the american people, but I can't understand it. I think this will be a very sad day not only for the USA but for the whole world.
What's this I am hearing that the % of provisional votes accepted is generally less than 30% due to error, etc.? The Democrats need 200 of 250k to come close in Ohio as is but that isnt even accounting for the fact that likely only 50k of them will even be accepted. What a trip.
And uhh shompola, the near 600k number reported hours ago by CNN was remaining votes in general for the state and included votes that hadnt been reported yet (it was still at 92% precincts reporting then). The highest number we've heard is 250k for provisional votes from the leader of Kerry's campaign (and not categorically denied by the SOS of Ohio).
And uhh shompola, the near 600k number reported hours ago by CNN was remaining votes in general for the state and included votes that hadnt been reported yet (it was still at 92% precincts reporting then). The highest number we've heard is 250k for provisional votes from the leader of Kerry's campaign (and not categorically denied by the SOS of Ohio).
snapty: Election night is Rather's time to shine, man!
CBS reports that the White House says that Bush will declare victory soon with or without a Kerry concession.
(EDIT: Now saying that nothing will happen before 10 AM tomorrow.)
If anyone comes across something that says what the election would look like with a proportional system, please post it in here. I'm sure it's not what most people would think!
CBS reports that the White House says that Bush will declare victory soon with or without a Kerry concession.
(EDIT: Now saying that nothing will happen before 10 AM tomorrow.)
If anyone comes across something that says what the election would look like with a proportional system, please post it in here. I'm sure it's not what most people would think!
I've heard all three numbers on TV. It seems like they're treating 600,000 as an absolute maximum, but the expected number will be somewhere in the 200,000-250,000. And with those numbers, it is mathematically possible for Kerry to win. It's just not very realistic.Society said:
If I understood this correctly, they count each state with a number of electoral votes that is representative for the number of people living there, right? But why not count all the votes all over the country and add them together instead of using representative numbers like that? Wouldn't that make it more fair?
I mean, let's say there are two states with the same amount of electoral votes. In one state candidate A wins with 80-20, and in the other candidate B wins with 51-49. Is it really fair to give them the same weight?
I'm just wondering, what is the point with this system? The advantages?
I mean, let's say there are two states with the same amount of electoral votes. In one state candidate A wins with 80-20, and in the other candidate B wins with 51-49. Is it really fair to give them the same weight?
I'm just wondering, what is the point with this system? The advantages?
soundwave05
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I propose a game of Jenga
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Society said:
I'm just going by the number a friend of mine (Democrat) said Ed Gillespie reported on one of the news channels (he apparently said 5-27%), hence my asking about it. His numbers might be on a national level though. Regardless of that fact however, it's painfully obvious the Dems have NO CHANCE at all, but are too proud or perhaps too embarassed to concede defeat even if its as clear as day.
norinrad21
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DRAFT in 2005
IT's ON people
IT's ON people
ErasureAcer
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has turned into its own civil war. Really. I can't wait to see the news tomorrow and see how local people are pissed off.
We should make 3 countries(cal, ore, wash)(upper blue)(everything else).
let's do this peacefully. I don't wanna kill someone.
We should make 3 countries(cal, ore, wash)(upper blue)(everything else).
let's do this peacefully. I don't wanna kill someone.
Do The Mario
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How can a man who can barely construct a concise sentence become president of the United States?
I am form Australian but I have an extreme interest in politics, I do several units at University as electives with my degree. I just can not believe that people feel safe under a Bush government.
To be honest Gorge Bush is the cause of a hell of a lot of the worlds problems today, the neglect to address the Israeli and Palestine issues means that we are further away from peace then ever before.
The unilateral action taken against Iraq and Afghanistan has done nothing but create resentment towards the USA. Children have lost there mothers and fathers do you think they will forget who was responsible for these atrocities in ten years time? I think not!
The US economy is also doing poorly, can someone please tell me what the bush government did right during its first term?
I am form Australian but I have an extreme interest in politics, I do several units at University as electives with my degree. I just can not believe that people feel safe under a Bush government.
To be honest Gorge Bush is the cause of a hell of a lot of the worlds problems today, the neglect to address the Israeli and Palestine issues means that we are further away from peace then ever before.
The unilateral action taken against Iraq and Afghanistan has done nothing but create resentment towards the USA. Children have lost there mothers and fathers do you think they will forget who was responsible for these atrocities in ten years time? I think not!
The US economy is also doing poorly, can someone please tell me what the bush government did right during its first term?
Like with Kerry would have been different...Funky Papa said:
Both Kerry and Bush want the best for their country and it's a natural reaction. PERIOD. Unless Kerry cared more about the whole world than his own home, things would be exactly the same.
When Spain left Iraq I knew we were gonna pay for it. For us the only difference is that Bush will be more hard than Kerry at making us pay for the betrayal. I see Ford and GM leaving Spain soon...
It's true. Remember, the US population is larger than ever before, and the voter turnout was pretty massive.Hollywood said:
It is NOT the largest margin of victory ever or anything (it is, after all, only a 3% pop vote win), but it is the largest number of votes ever recorded by a single candidate.
It is also the first time a candidate has collected a true majority of 50% or more of the popular vote since 1988 when Bush I won with 53% of the vote.
soundwave05
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The youth vote could've helped Kerry, but there's too much damn apathy with that crowd.
I hope Bush does reinstitute the draft, just to give some of these kids a kick in the ass.
I hope Bush does reinstitute the draft, just to give some of these kids a kick in the ass.
Do The Mario
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You cant be serious, because that one of the stupidest things I have ever seen on these message boards.
Is Microsoft going to pull out?
How about a total trade embargo on Spain?
BruceWayne
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So many gloomy faces and voices to be heard tomorrow conceding defeat(if they have any balls):
- Kerry
- Edwards
- Michael Moore
- John Stewart
- Dan Rather
- Peter Jennings
- Howard Stern
Feel free to add to the list.
- Kerry
- Edwards
- Michael Moore
- John Stewart
- Dan Rather
- Peter Jennings
- Howard Stern
Feel free to add to the list.
soundwave05
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Tenguman said:
This is sad but it's probably so damn true.
Believe it or not, but a lot of my friends are a bit more conservative now than they were when we 18 or so. I'm not sure why, and I certainly don't know if my little group reflects the entire U.S., but if more of my friends would've voted, they probably would've went with Bush, surprisingly. That wasn't the case in 2000, though.
soundwave05 said:
He should've pandered to their internet needs.
Candidate in South Korea pandered to making S.K. an information superpower, and he was able to swing behind for a massive suprise victory because of the youth.
Also... it's probably made a world of difference to them in the way they live now.
Do The Mario
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Voting is compulsory in Australia, you dont have to vote if you dont want to just get your name crossed off.
With the amount of money Americans spend on enticing people to vote it would be simpler just making voting compulsory then making money when people refuse to vote by having a $25 fine.
With the amount of money Americans spend on enticing people to vote it would be simpler just making voting compulsory then making money when people refuse to vote by having a $25 fine.
To all the people from out the US that is criticizing the result: WTF did you expect ?
I am not pro-Kerry nor pro-Bush.
1. Nearly all the media in Europe has been pro-Kerry. They have manipulated the news showing an evil Bush and an awesome Kerry.
2. People hates US citizens. Why ? Then again because of the media that show US as a conglomerate of fatass people without culture nor brain and big corporations ruled by evil. It's a natural reaction to hate the rich...
These are two considerations I wanted to make about media in Europe.
3. Anti-semitism on Europe. Yes, it exists although nobody admits it but ALWAYS Israel is the bad and Palestina the good. Hell...things are not black or white. Jew lobbies only can find faith in one person for now: Bush.
Perhaps anti-semitism is not the right word but I have yet to see news in which Israel is not the bad...
4. Fear. People in the US is afraid. They won't say nor admit it but they have the feeling all the world is against them and then it comes a man who sends he will kill the baddies...Guess who I am talking about ?
If people have voted Bush is because he and HIS TEAM (don't forgett the elections don't choose just a man but a TEAM) are the right people for the moment.
I am not pro-Kerry nor pro-Bush.
1. Nearly all the media in Europe has been pro-Kerry. They have manipulated the news showing an evil Bush and an awesome Kerry.
2. People hates US citizens. Why ? Then again because of the media that show US as a conglomerate of fatass people without culture nor brain and big corporations ruled by evil. It's a natural reaction to hate the rich...
These are two considerations I wanted to make about media in Europe.
3. Anti-semitism on Europe. Yes, it exists although nobody admits it but ALWAYS Israel is the bad and Palestina the good. Hell...things are not black or white. Jew lobbies only can find faith in one person for now: Bush.
Perhaps anti-semitism is not the right word but I have yet to see news in which Israel is not the bad...
4. Fear. People in the US is afraid. They won't say nor admit it but they have the feeling all the world is against them and then it comes a man who sends he will kill the baddies...Guess who I am talking about ?
If people have voted Bush is because he and HIS TEAM (don't forgett the elections don't choose just a man but a TEAM) are the right people for the moment.
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