Official Football•Soccer•Fútbol Thread 2008/2009

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Kinan

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h0pper said:
what's funny is that Konami hasn't released shit in regards to PES2009. I mean, the just officially announced that Messi will be on the cover. Practically nothing regarding gameplay. I saw the intro video and it was all CGI shit, no actual gameplay graphics. On the other hand, FIFA has been at 3 events already and has released a sleu of new media. Granted, some of it is shaky cam video but who cares? It's still something.

I almost feel like Konami are ashamed to put their shit out there because they're not happy with it right now or something. I dunno, but it'd be really bad if FIFA officiall overtook PES. If they got enough people playing, I think it would be hard for Konami to get them back.

GC is like in a week. Will be plenty of info there.
 

Cedeo

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Karakand said:
I like how people "in the know" post on message boards instead of talking to the press. We're finally cutting out the middlemen.

It's most likely bollocks but it's entertaining.

Would be bad not to have any derbys.
 

Cedeo

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hadareud said:
they can bid all they want, Henry would never ever go to another Premiership club. And if he would it certainly wouldn't be to Spurs or Manyoo.

I don't want him to be honest, but bookmarking this anyway :D
 
hadareud said:
they can bid all they want, Henry would never ever go to another Premiership club. And if he would it certainly wouldn't be to Spurs or Manyoo.

That's what Alan Smith said...

Besides, Henry is coming to the twilight of his career and if a big club in England welcomed him then under the right circumstances I think he'd take it. I don't believe that he'd never go to another club, Arsenal is a special club to him but I think he'd accept a move no problem.

Very, very few players would not play for one of their rivals on principal. A few years ago Gerrard was close to signing for Chelsea and 'fans' were burning his shirt at the gates of Anfield. :lol :lol :lol (This is supposed to be one of the most unified clubs in the world with the 'best' fans)

Having said that I do think these rumors are a bit stretched.
 

SupahBlah

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liquid_gears said:
Very, very few players would not play for one of their rivals on principal. A few years ago Gerrard was close to signing for Chelsea and 'fans' were burning his shirt at the gates of Anfield. :lol :lol :lol (This is supposed to be one of the most unified clubs in the world with the 'best' fans)

Having said that I do think these rumors are a bit stretched.

One fan burnt a Gerrard 17 shirt, do you know how old that was when he was number 17?

I just loved how there was a TV camera nearby.
 

Cedeo

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gerrardshirtburnin-1.jpg
 

SupahBlah

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Cedeo said:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x135/Jumbo_Jim/gerrardshirtburnin-1.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've commented on that one before, I find it hilarious he spent money on a Liverpool shirt.

Its probably a Thai fake but still.
 

hadareud

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liquid_gears said:
That's what Alan Smith said...

Besides, Henry is coming to the twilight of his career and if a big club in England welcomed him then under the right circumstances I think he'd take it. I don't believe that he'd never go to another club, Arsenal is a special club to him but I think he'd accept a move no problem.

Very, very few players would not play for one of their rivals on principal. A few years ago Gerrard was close to signing for Chelsea and 'fans' were burning his shirt at the gates of Anfield. :lol :lol :lol (This is supposed to be one of the most unified clubs in the world with the 'best' fans)

Having said that I do think these rumors are a bit stretched.
Henry will not join one of our rivals, it's not gonna happen.

I'm aware that this probably sounds like the deluded talk of a naive supporter, but I know for certain that he wouldn't do it.

Yazan said:
:lol

a bit young for you, don't you think?
 

SupahBlah

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Yazan said:

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Poor Yazan.

In other stupid news.

Since Mourinho felt the need to talk about the Premier League and say "This year is our year" Liverpool are down to 6/1 on the odds for the title, which is stoopids. I'm optimistic but I still believe its United's to lose. With Chelsea the main challengers.
 

Yazan

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Yeah, we should wait 10 years....

But I don't understand why we would sign another midfielder, we have already way too many. Maybe Galliani was serious when he said that Ambro can play as a defender (but Ancelotti showed him that he can be a forward as well:lol ).
 

Ghost

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The West Ham fan sites are awash with the story from Sweden that Freddies contract was cancelled because Freddie couldn't return to pre-season training because his dad is being accused of raping his mum, that apparently explains why the CEO said he'd be staying 2 days before announcing he was gone.

And it hasn't come out in the press yet because Swedish law stops any press from reporting the names of people under investigation (or something like that).



So if that's true I doubt he'll sign for anyone for a while.


Could be BS though.
 

SupahBlah

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Having had his dreams - and possibly career - torn to shreds by Sir Alex's admirable obstinacy over Cristiano Ronaldo, Spanish daily AS's man in Manchester has just one more thing to say before possibly being handed his marching orders after writing his expense-account funded rubbish for the past two months.

In Sunday's edition, the hapless hack returned to his favourite haunt - lurking outside Ronaldo's mock tudor mansion - to try and fail to get a promise from the Portuguese pouter that one day, even in an alternate universe, he will wear the white shirt of Madrid.

"He's back to work," sighed AS' correspondent getting in one last dig before having his pen and dictaphone taken away from him. "In the constant rain that inundates Manchester, even in August where the thermometer doesn't go over 15 degrees".

Good night and good luck.

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:lol
 

Yazan

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According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Milan could today complete the loan signing of Chelsea outcast Branislav Ivanovic, despite Carlo Ancelotti recently declaring his opposition to the transfer.

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Blablurn

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would be awesome. i wonder if you'll win the uefa cup :) this will be interesting.

unfortunately we weren't able to do that. damn arshavin.
 

Cedeo

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Ben Collett wins £4.5million compensation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7553678.stm

A former Manchester United player whose career was ended when he was injured in a tackle has been awarded more than £4.5m in compensation.

Ben Collett, 23, broke his leg in a reserve game against Middlesbrough five years ago, at the age of 18.

Boro player Gary Smith and his club admitted liability for the injury.

The total compensation will be decided when sums for future loss of pension and interest on past loss of earnings are determined at a hearing in October.

Sitting at London's High Court, Mrs Justice Swift awarded the player £4.3m and said the final sum payable to Collett was unlikely to be less than £4.5m.

Collett's solicitor Jan Levinson said the award "reflects Ben's talent and potential prior to the tackle as one of the brightest young footballers in the country".

He added: "Having said that, Ben would have preferred to have earned this through a full career in the game."

The match against Middlesbrough was Collett's debut for United's reserve team.

Manchester United's manager Sir Alex Ferguson described him as an "outstanding" player.

Collett joined United's youth academy aged nine and went on to become a member of the club's FA Youth Cup-winning team in 2003.

But his right leg was broken in two places in the match in May 2003.

The compensation will be paid by Middlesbrough's insurers.

Mrs Justice Swift said had it not been for the injury Collett would have been offered a three-year professional contract with Manchester United.

At an earlier hearing in Manchester Sir Alex said: "I thought the boy showed fantastic focus, a great attitude to work hard and they are qualities to give any player an outstanding chance in the game."

The court had heard that Mr Collett could have earned more than £13,000 a week, making a total in excess of £16m if he had played until the age of 35.

Mrs Justice Swift awarded Mr Collett £3,854,328 for future loss of earnings.


During his 11 years at Manchester United, he had impressed players and staff at all levels, from Sir Alex Ferguson and Mr Gary Neville to the contemporaries who played alongside him

The figure for general damages for pain and suffering, loss of amenity and loss of congenial employment was £35,000.

Past loss of earnings was put at £456,095.

Mrs Justice Swift said of Collett in her ruling: "I found him a most impressive young man.

"He was plainly intelligent and it is clear that he has brought - and will in the future bring - to his academic studies the same dedication and commitment that he formerly applied to football."

She said that Collett's "positive attitude towards his injury and to the devastating blow of being unable to pursue his chosen career does him great credit".

Collett plans to take up a place at Leeds University next month to study English.

Other witnesses at the hearings included United captain Gary Neville.

The judge said: "During his 11 years at Manchester United, he had impressed players and staff at all levels, from Sir Alex Ferguson and Mr Gary Neville to the contemporaries who played alongside him."

Gary Smith, 24, was released by Middlesbrough and went on to play for MK Dons, before a free transfer to his current club, Brentford FC.

A spokesman for Brentford said Smith would not be commenting on the outcome of the case.
 

hadareud

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how did it happen? was it a deliberate attempt to break his leg/injure him?

I'm not so sure I like this judgement. Of curse you feel very sympathetic towards the guy, I mean it's horrible for your career to be ending in such a way when you're only 18. On the other hand this is football and injuries do happen, and unless this guy deliberately broke his leg it's an incredible outcome of this case with far reaching implications.

Don't clubs have an insurance for things like that so they can compensate their players?
 
Highlights from MLS this week...
Steven Goff said:
The Good, the Bad, the Coyote Ugly

THE GOOD

*Chad Barrett's sensational free kick for his new club, Toronto.
*Juan Pablo Angel's free kick for the Red Bulls.
*Taylor Twellman's header three minutes into his first league start of the year.
*Toronto snapping an 0-6-5 skid in all competitions and earning its first league road victory since mid-April.
*New York beating DCU for just the third time in the last 21 meetings in all competitions.
*Chicago's comeback, which resulted in victory, and Chivas USA's comeback, which made things difficult for victorious Kansas City.
*Jaime Moreno's120th career goal.
*The Wizards' shifting lineup produces three goals.
*Chivas's second multi-goal effort in the last 12 games. The Goats were missing Razov, Suarez, Bornstein, Galindo, Eskandarian and Kljestan.
*The Fire sweeping the three-game season series from the first-place Revs by a 9-1 total.
*Davy Arnaud's bizarre goal and Sasha Victorine's diving header.
*19,240 at Gillette Stadium.

THE BAD

*Colorado in a 1-5-3 rut.
*Shalrie Joseph swatting the ball from Blanco and getting tossed.
*A week after its first shutout, DCU's defense reverts to form and allows four.
*The Revs' second loss in two months in all competitions.

THE COYOTE UGLY

*Matt Reis's blunder on Gonzalo Segares's knuckeball, allowing Chicago to draw even.
*Colin Clarke's dismissal for sending Nana Attakora-Gyan into the signboards.
*Four mediocre teams in the East in places four through seven with 25 points apiece, the second time that's happend this summer.
*Toronto's free kick from six yards.
*Marc Burch's back-pass header that led to Angel's second goal.
*Thousands of empty seats in Denver.
 

Cedeo

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hadareud said:
how did it happen? was it a deliberate attempt to break his leg/injure him?

I'm not so sure I like this judgement. Of curse you feel very sympathetic towards the guy, I mean it's horrible for your career to be ending in such a way when you're only 18. On the other hand this is football and injuries do happen, and unless this guy deliberately broke his leg it's an incredible outcome of this case with far reaching implications.

Don't clubs have an insurance for things like that so they can compensate their players?

shit, just searched his name on youtube and all there was is child porn and rapping. I haven't really heard much of the case since when it happened and I haven't seen the tackle, I didn't think it was intentional though, just unlucky.
 

Yazan

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MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver trovato un accordo con l'AS Monaco FC per la cessione delle prestazioni sportive del calciatore Dario Simic all'AS Monaco, squadra che milita nel massimo campionato francese. Lo stesso Simic domani sarà nel Principato di Monaco per sottoporsi alle rituali visite mediche.

Simic to Monaco, probably means that Ivanovic is a Milan player quite soon.
 

hadareud

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Cornballer said:
hadareud - thanks for taking care of the prediction league stuff.

Who do you want to start against FC Twente?
no worries :)

with the injuries we have there's not too many options I guess. I hope Nasri will be fit in time so we can play with him and Theo on the wings. Denilson is probably a definite in the centre to partner Cesc, unless Wenger thinks Ramsey is ready (he didn't look ready on Saturday, he looked very tired). Up front Adebayor and Van Persie are not in doubt of course.

The real question is who Wenger will play at centre back alongside Gallas. I guess it will be Kolo, but personally I'd prefer Senderos or Djourou. I love Kolo, but I think it's becoming increasingly apparent that he and Gallas do not compliment each other, while Gallas seems to do much better with Djourou and Senderos. Won't happen though I'm afraid, even though Kolo could probably do with a few more weeks of training after his illness.

My lineup would look like this.

-------------- Almunia ---------------
Sagna - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Walcott - Cesc - Denilson - Nasri
---- Van Persie - Adebayor --------

Hopefully we'll have a signing by Saturday and we won't see two attacking midfielders in the centre anytime soon again.
 
Looks like a good setup to me. Unfortunately, I get the feeling we're going to be Eboue'd again on Wednesday.

What's the story on Inler?
 

hadareud

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to quote Wenger:

"I do not know yet if it will be the Swiss player or somebody else," said Wenger at the Amsterdam Tournament. "But it is not necessarily going to be the Swiss boy [anyway] because we are not especially on him at the moment, so I cannot tell you more about him than anybody else.

I have no idea. All I know is that we need to sign somebody this week or next week. Inler would be fine by me.
 
Champions League qualifiers for this week:

- UEFA Champions League (Qualifying Third Round ) -
Tuesday:
Fiorentina v Slavia Prague

Wednesday:
Spartak Moscow v Dynamo Kiev
Levski Sofia v BATE Borisov
Shakhtar Donetsk v Dinamo Zagreb
Anorthosis Famagusta v Olympiacos
AaB v FBK Kaunas
Galatasaray v Steaua Bucuresti
Sparta Prague v Panathinaikos
SK Brann v Marseille
Schalke 04 v Atlético Madrid
Twente Enschede v Arsenal
Juventus v Artmedia Petrzalka
Partizan Belgrade v Fenerbahce
Standard Liege v Liverpool
Guimaraes v FC Basel
Barcelona v Wisla Krakow

It's unclear if Setanta are showing the Twente-Arsenal match in the US. I'm trying to track down some info. The match might be on ESPN360, though.
 
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