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they decided to boycott it at the French GP which was early july. the German GP was in early august. Of course the changes couldn't be made within a month.Dead Man said:According to the wiki it was only missed for one year. It was back at the Nurburgring in 1971. Or, have I just realised I am an idiot and do you mean they boycotted it until work was done, which could not be done quick enough, so the race was held at H'ring, and then the track was reconstructed after the race had already been held?
One more crime to lay at Bernies feet.
The reconstruction work began in February 1971, so it definitely didn't took place because of reconstruction work but because of the boycott
From the GP of Germany, any radio communication between the driver and the command post are freely available
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Morning GAF. Not long until free practice 1, but I cant think as to who I shall pick as my main driver on a long
longish term.
The candidates AKA the guys I can just barely afford:
Massa: Nope. lets move on.
Kubica: Gets the most out of the car, but with no major updates the Renault could be left behind. (no F-duct / Blown Floor.)
Shoemaker: Consistently inconsistent, but the Mercedes does look like the best of the rest. Bar Alonso maybe.
So who do you think I shall choose bearing in mind I will be sticking with him for awhile. (At least 2-3 races)
The candidates AKA the guys I can just barely afford:
Massa: Nope. lets move on.
Kubica: Gets the most out of the car, but with no major updates the Renault could be left behind. (no F-duct / Blown Floor.)
Shoemaker: Consistently inconsistent, but the Mercedes does look like the best of the rest. Bar Alonso maybe.
So who do you think I shall choose bearing in mind I will be sticking with him for awhile. (At least 2-3 races)
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Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Are there any english streaming sites left? All of the ones I used to use don't have it anymore....
I'm stuck watching practice in spanish.
I'm stuck watching practice in spanish.
http://www.firstrow.net/ has Spanish streams -_-
Not a good show by Hami, made a stupid mistake!!! You could hear it in his voice how pissed he was.
Hope they can rebuild the car for FP2 and get some good times on the board.
Good show by button at the end of session for the third fastest tip, still 1 sec off the pace.
Any idea what happend to Alonso????
Hope they can rebuild the car for FP2 and get some good times on the board.
Good show by button at the end of session for the third fastest tip, still 1 sec off the pace.
Any idea what happend to Alonso????
Free practice 1.
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Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:25.701 20
2. Massa Ferrari 1:26.850 + 1.149 27
3. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.936 + 1.235 16
4. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:26.947 + 1.246 21
5. Petrov Renault 1:26.948 + 1.247 21
6. Rosberg Mercedes 1:27.448 + 1.747 20
7. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:28.114 + 2.413 31
8. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:28.193 + 2.492 24
9. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:28.300 + 2.599 19
10. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.486 + 2.785 23
11. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:28.735 + 3.034 21
12. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:28.735 + 3.034 21
13. Kubica Renault 1:28.903 + 3.202 20
14. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:29.048 + 3.347 13
15. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:29.280 + 3.579 17
16. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:29.366 + 3.665 34
17. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.429 + 3.728 8
18. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:29.500 + 3.799 19
19. Alonso Ferrari 1:29.684 + 3.983 15
20. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:29.690 + 3.989 17
21. Fauzy Lotus-Cosworth 1:30.938 + 5.237 27
22. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:31.720 + 6.019 23
23. Schumacher Mercedes 1:32.450 + 6.749 13
24. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:32.791 + 7.090 26Diablohead
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woo f1 this weekend
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Yep.
Hamilton only getting out now, 12 minutes to go. That crash cost him dearly.
Edit: He still goes 7th fastest, 0.7sec behind first yet still 0.7sec faster than Jensen. Kinda hard to draw any conclusions from the two practices, but if pushed id say it looks like a RedBull/Ferrari fight this weekend.
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Why is Sutil so frikken awesome in the wet?
I'd love to see him in the Mercedes next year.
I'd love to see him in the Mercedes next year.
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Very impressed with Chandhok on the commentary! I'd heard he was very popular in the pit lane, I can see why. That's some encylopedic knowledge of f1 he has going on.
edit: actually, he kind of talks right over the other two quite often. That's not so cool!
Anyhoo, I'm predicting a winner this weekend not from mclaren, red bull or ferarri. You heard it here first!
edit: actually, he kind of talks right over the other two quite often. That's not so cool!
Anyhoo, I'm predicting a winner this weekend not from mclaren, red bull or ferarri. You heard it here first!
It's hard to deny Michael Shumachers influence in Germany when it comes to motorsport. Indeed, five other drivers on the grid are German, so it's easy to understand why this particular Grand Prix is so anticipated for the home crowd. The next round of the 2010 Formula Grand Prix visits the Hockenheimring, where Michael Schumacher, his teammate Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil, Timo Glock Sebastien Vettel and Nico Hulkenberg hope to give their home country the proper spectacle they came for.
In 1907, Germany staged the first of the Kaiserpreis races at the Taunus Circuit. Entries were limited to touring cars with engines of less than eight litres. Italy's Felice Nazzaro won the race in a Fiat. Like the Prinz-Heinrich-Fahrt, which was held from 1908 to 1911, it was a precursor to the German Grand Prix.
The first national event in German Grand Prix motor racing was held at the AVUS (Automobil Verkehrs und Übungs-Straße) race circuit in southwestern Berlin in 1926 as a sports car race. The first race at AVUS, in heavy rain, was won by Germany's native son, Rudolf Caracciola in a Mercedes-Benz. The event was marred by Adolf Rosenberger's crash into one of the marshals' huts, killing three people. The German Grand Prix became an official event in 1929, but would not return to AVUS again until 1959, and then only once.
The Grand Prix moved to the new, 28 km (17.4 mi)-long course at Nürburgring, which was inaugurated on June 18, 1927, with the annual race, the ADAC Eifelrennen. It stayed mainly on the 22.8 km (14.2 mi) Nordschleife (North Loop) course until the 1970s, when the rival Hockenheimring would take over owing to safety concerns.
The 1930 and 1933 German Grands Prix were both cancelled because of the country's economic problems.
Starting in 1934, there were often several races each year with the so called "Silver Arrows" Grand Prix cars in Germany, eg. the Eifelrennen, the AVUS race, and several hillclimbs. Yet it was only the Grand Prix at the Nürburgring that was the national Grande Epreuve, which counted toward the European Championship from 1935 to 1939.
After Bernd Rosemeyer and Hans Stuck scored one victory each, Rudolf Caracciola took the German GP in 1937 and again in 1939, a feat no other German driver accomplished between 1937 and 1995, when Michael Schumacher won. During this time, foreigners scored two upset wins: Italian Tazio Nuvolari in 1935 and the British Dick Seaman in 1938.
At that time, a new track had been built near Dresden, called the Deutschlandring, which was intended to host the 1940 German Grand Prix. However, because of the outbreak of World War II, the race was never run.
After WWII, Germany and German drivers were banned from international contests until 1951, so the inaugural F1 Season in 1950 did not include the German GP.
Owing to the decline in attendance after the retirement of Mercedes and Juan Manuel Fangio, the AvD returned the German GP to AVUS in 1959. Owing to the simple layout of this high speed track and several accidents, it was considered a bad move. In anticipation of 1961 rule changes in F1, the 1960 GP was held for Formula 2 cars of Porsche as well as the F2 Ferrari Dino of Wolfgang von Trips, which did not show up. This GP did not count towards the World Championships, and was also held on the shorter 7.7 km (4.8 mi) Nürburgring Südschleife (South Loop).
After the former Formula 2 rules were declared the new Formula 1, Porsche entered Formula 1 in 1961. Additional F1 races were held at their home town Stuttgart at the Solitude circuit. These races, joined together with Grand Prix motorcycle racing World Championship events, drew an average of 288,000 spectators. There were rumours that the German Grand Prix might be moved to the more popular track, yet the opposite happened, as the Solitude races were canceled after 1965, while the GP had returned to the Nürburgring Nordschleife in 1961.
In 1970, drivers asked for safety improvements on such short notice that they could not be made, and the German Grand Prix moved to the Hockenheimring, which had already been modified. After a rebuild, the Nordschleife hosted six more GPs. Formula 1 finally declined to race there after 1976, with Niki Lauda's crash sealing this decision.
Since 1977, the Hockenheimring has become the German Grand Prix's permanent home, with the exception of the event in 1985, which was held on the new 4.5 km (2.8 mi) Nürburgring. In 1984 an additional F1 race already had been held at the Nürburgring following the inauguration of its modern "Grand Prix Strecke" layout. Following the success of Schumacher, this went on to become the venue for a second annual F1 race in Germany, the European Grand Prix or Luxembourg Grand Prix since 1995.
In 2006 it was reported that from 2007 until 2010, the German Grand Prix would be shared between the Nürburgring (former home of the European Grand Prix) and the Hockenheimring. The former would hold the races in 2007 and 2009 and the latter in 2008 and 2010. However, the name for the 2007 Grand Prix was later changed. While it was originally intended to be the German Grand Prix, the Nürburgring currently lists the 2007 event as "Großer Preis von Europa" (European Grand Prix).
The 2010 GP, to be held in Hockenheim, is in jeopardy as the track owners, the city and the state of Baden-Württemberg, are not willing anymore to lose money due to the high licensing costs imposed by F1 management. In addition, talks with Bernie Ecclestone were hampered by his Hitler quotes. If the track is relieved from being the venue, the owners intend on returning the track back to its former layout.
Onboard Lap
Red Bulls Mark Webber walks us through a lap of the Hockenheimring.
*Note that this is the layout from around 2002
Take a closer look here.
Fastest Lap
Fernando Alonso - Renault - 1:33.365
Most Wins
Rudolf Caracciola - 6
Most Wins for Constructor
Ferrari - 19
Highlights from Previous Years
Highlights from German GP 2003
Footage from German GP 1970 (Article discussing race below)
Previous Winners
*Note that the 2007 German GP was cancelled.
Drivers Championship Standings
Constructors Championship Standings
Last Minute News
Hockenheim revisited - The 1970 German Grand Prix
Ferrari and Red Bull pace worries Jenson Button
Hispania drop Karun Chandhok for German Grand Prix
Red Bull F1 team boss rules out driver favouritism
Jacques Villeneuve confirms Durango commercial link
Friday analysis - Ferrari back in the hunt?
Friday practice - selected team and driver quotes
Woot! I'm back in time for Hockenheim! I'm gonna shake things up a bit in the fantasy league. I'm being too reactionary. With comissioner's fees becoming larger, I'm gonna make a decision for the rest of the season. I'm trying to figure out if I should stay awake another 4 hours, or set my alarm for 5am. But I gotta watch practice and decide which team I think has it for the rest of the season.
As for practice, I wonder if Lewis got caught out by the blown diffuser. He noted the change in grip levels when you lifted off the throttle. He set the fastest time for primes, but we'll see if they have anything for qualies. PEACE.
I'm gonna shake things up a bit in the fantasy league. I'm being too reactionary. With comissioner's fees becoming larger, I'm gonna make a decision for the rest of the season. I'm trying to figure out if I should stay awake another 4 hours, or set my alarm for 5am. But I gotta watch practice and decide which team I think has it for the rest of the season.As for practice, I wonder if Lewis got caught out by the blown diffuser. He noted the change in grip levels when you lifted off the throttle. He set the fastest time for primes, but we'll see if they have anything for qualies. PEACE.
Practice = ???? for me.
WTF is going to happen in qualies? I have no damn clue. :lol How confident you feeling in your picks, SL?
I'm throwing some cards in a hat and pulling names at random right now. :lol Good luck you everyone on their picks. Let's crush AtlasF1!
McLaren looks like they're on the cusp of getting that blown diffuser working. Button isn't that happy with it, but Lewis looks like he could come to terms with it by Q3, or in the race.
Ferrari look so quick, I had the crazy idea of picking Massa this weekend. I might still do it, but that knucklehead is hardly reliable. Oh well. This should be another entertaining race, if practices are anything to go on. The parity is better between the top three teams than any race prior. I can't wait. PEACE.
EDIT: Thanks Juicy Bob.
WTF is going to happen in qualies? I have no damn clue. :lol How confident you feeling in your picks, SL?
I'm throwing some cards in a hat and pulling names at random right now. :lol Good luck you everyone on their picks. Let's crush AtlasF1!
McLaren looks like they're on the cusp of getting that blown diffuser working. Button isn't that happy with it, but Lewis looks like he could come to terms with it by Q3, or in the race.
Ferrari look so quick, I had the crazy idea of picking Massa this weekend. I might still do it, but that knucklehead is hardly reliable. Oh well. This should be another entertaining race, if practices are anything to go on. The parity is better between the top three teams than any race prior. I can't wait.
PEACE.EDIT: Thanks Juicy Bob.
Quite interesting session.
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pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:15.103 18
2. Alonso Ferrari 1:15.387 + 0.284 21
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:15.708 + 0.605 16
4. Massa Ferrari 1:15.854 + 0.751 20
5. Rosberg Mercedes 1:16.046 + 0.943 20
6. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.207 + 1.104 13
7. Schumacher Mercedes 1:16.473 + 1.370 16
8. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:16.481 + 1.378 23
9. Kubica Renault 1:16.646 + 1.543 20
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:16.743 + 1.640 17
11. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.882 + 1.779 19
12. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.990 + 1.887 21
13. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.037 + 1.934 15
14. Petrov Renault 1:17.148 + 2.045 20
15. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.220 + 2.117 19
16. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.341 + 2.238 21
17. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:17.538 + 2.435 22
18. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:19.193 + 4.090 11
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:19.607 + 4.504 10
20. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:20.533 + 5.430 9
21. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:21.538 + 6.435 14
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:23.444 + 8.341 10
23. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:23.873 + 8.770 7
24. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (Drive shaft issue) 2- Status
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