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[Ghost]

fucking ridiculous to push schumi out of the points, fair enough the FIA were intending to finish the race under the safety car, and so the overtake wasn't legal, but they informed the teams that the safety car was coming in, and they waved the green flags, so Michael was well within his rights to start racing.

The FIA turn formula 1 into a circus with their ridiculous egos and one-upmanship, you fucked up! Just do the sensible thing and admit it!

urgh.

 

[mrklaw]

fucking ridiculous to push schumi out of the points, fair enough the FIA were intending to finish the race under the safety car, and so the overtake wasn't legal, but they informed the teams that the safety car was coming in, and they waved the green flags, so Michael was well within his rights to start racing.

The FIA turn formula 1 into a circus with their ridiculous egos and one-upmanship, you fucked up! Just do the sensible thing and admit it!

urgh.

agreed. If rules are ambiguous, then they should reflect that in any punishment. In this case, they could have just reinstated the positions as they were when the SC came in, rather than push Michael way back out of the points

 

[Steroyd]

Maybe the FIA don't know their own rules, it keeps changing every year so it'd be easy to lose track.

Must be the first time I've known a motosport to have green mean anything other than go.

 

[Roxas]

I must say, that i am SHOCKED that an FIA decision has gone Ferarri's way. Shocked i say!

 

[mclem]

The only explanation. :lol

"Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine"

 

[Opus Angelorum]

I must say, that i am SHOCKED that an FIA decision has gone Ferarri's way. Shocked i say!

The irony being against a former driver.

 

[rockman zx]

It's amazing that Alonso after one DNF and many mistakes is only 3 point behind. Let's hope he won't do more mistakes because right now he is the only one how can stop the Red Bulls, or at least try.

 

[Dead Man]

Hill told BBC Sport: "Believe me my only concern was that the right thing was done, if that was the case consistently things would be better.

Stay classy Damon. :lol

 

[navanman]

F1racemanager website has been updated but its as slow as shit.

I've an extra 11 million to play with. The gap between mid-field teams and top 5 is growing so its definitely time to even downgrade some other area to go with top team driver, car.

 

[S. L.]

slow as shit is an understatement.

 

[Dead Man]

slow as shit is an understatement.

Indeed. I can only get the front page to load. Next year we go with another website, yeah?

 

[S. L.]

gained two places again, I'm such a f1 pimp

who is JTF1?

 

[Dead Man]

I went nowhere I thought I would do better, I blame Petrov.

 

[Dibbz]

Wooo 57th in the league. The ball is rolling and it ain't gonna stop. You guys better watch out :lol

 

[Leunam]

Gained two places after losing them last week. Yay me.

 

[DieH@rd]

"Force of DieH@rd" have gone up another 2 places!

 

[S. L.]

seriously guys, sate which team you are when you say "wooo i gained a place" :lol

 

[Igo]

I'm on my way back up! I gained 3 placed and could have had more if I went with my initial choice of Liuzzi over Buemi for my 2nd driver. Buemi totally fooled me with his practice times. Well that and Liuzzi had a series of terrible finishes. Now he''ll be more expensive too. I really should have been looking long term.

I wonder what they'll do if Mercedes win their appeal.

 

[Dead Man]

seriously guys, sate which team you are when you say "wooo i gained a place" :lol

Blue Racing. Solidly middle of the pack! :lol

 

[navanman]

LOLa F1, up 2 places this week.

 

[Deadman]

Hmm slipped down to 5th, but i think i maximised what i could do with the money i had this week. Was just a little short of being able to afford an RBR engine/chassis.

 

[mrklaw]

going to start getting interesting in the fantasy league soon. A lot of us will have solid teams/engines/fuel, so it'll be driver choice that differentiates, and its still quite varied at the moment.

Plus many of us are on shitty drivers to afford decent chassis etc, so it'll be a slog to get the top drivers. Those that are already on buemi etc have an advantage there.

 

[S. L.]

it's interesting that a few went with Kubica for last race. didn't do the math on him, so i wonder how that will work out

also i got bumped to 10% broker fee >_<

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Managed to get 898 points out of that, and 2mil in bet money. At a quick glance, I still can't afford to actually upgrade anything though >_<

Spoiler

I'm in the AtlasF1 league ¬_¬

 

[DieH@rd]

Oh snap, im short 3.9mil to buy Shumacher [over Sutil].

Hopefully next bonus question will be 4mill, if not im changing to Barichello [over Petrov].

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Oh snap, im short 3.9mil to buy Shumacher [over Sutil].

Yeah I'm surprised at how cheap he is. Even though his results haven't been that great, it's clear that it's mostly been bad luck that's given him those results.

I'm not sure why some teams' engines and chassis aren't priced identically either, given that they yield identical points.

 

[Cereal KiIIer]

Team name Tag Heuer Racing
Subleague position 67 / 73
Points gathered 1896 (+855)




(I only have 3 races done... I started after the beginning)

 

[shas'la]

Im in a sports bar in tokyo getting loaded for the race. Hoping for the right brazilian to bring out the right safety car at the right time to get Alonso the win.

Make it so Massa you fucking loser!

So what was the bar like, many f1 fans, or were you just the only mug sitting at a table looking up a TV?

 

[TylerD]

Damn!

Tyler D Vetmacher GP

4237 pts overall
+960 pts in Monaco and stayed stagnate at P11. I would have moved up to P10 with 963 pts.

My team was Kubica/Buemi/Force/Lotus/Total.

 

[mrklaw]

Damn!

Tyler D Vetmacher GP

4237 pts overall
+960 pts in Monaco and stayed stagnate at P11. I would have moved up to P10 with 963 pts.

My team was Kubica/Buemi/Force/Lotus/Total.

Intersting that you got so many points with middling drivers and teams. I had FI and RBR so should have killed your lotus points, but your drivers must have compensated more than I thought. Need to spend some time with the stats I think.

Edit: I guess Kubica did really well though.

 

[DarkJC]

http://www.abload.de/img/captureax1w.png
gained two places again, I'm such a f1 pimp

who is JTF1?

Me

 

[Deadman]

I think turkey will be interesting as the top people can now start affording more than one top team to fit into their chassis/engine supplier or can reach the top levels of the drivers. If I drop down to di grassi/senna I can afford mercedes engines and mclaren chassis.

 

[S. L.]

Managed to get 898 points out of that, and 2mil in bet money. At a quick glance, I still can't afford to actually upgrade anything though >_<

Spoiler

I'm in the AtlasF1 league ¬_¬

your loss, as we a clearly rocking AtlasF1

 

[Pimpwerx]

Redshift Racing here, and I'm kinda fucking up. I didn't lose a place, but I'm losing a shitload of points to JTF1 and SL. It seems they're onto something.

I missed the Monaco race, that's why I didn't post anything this weekend. I'm not sure if I'm even gonna watch a torrent since most of you know it's my most-hated circuit. Two weekends in a row now ruined by one thing or another. Oh well, I shouldn't have anymore interruptions until July. For some reason, everyone I went to college with is getting married now. Weddings are not good for race weekends. PEACE.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

your loss, as we a clearly rocking AtlasF1

Yeah but I'm higher up that league than I would be in this one, so n'yer.

 

[AcridMeat]

SFF1, up 7 places. Unfortunately almost everyone ahead of me got more points. :lol

 

[Chris R]

Just running some more figures.

Liuzzi and Buemi were the clear winners when it comes to points/price. Obvious losers were anyone who could afford Button or Alonso. Force India and Toro Rosso were the budget priced deals when it came to Engine/Chassis. And finally, there is basically no reason not to own Total fuel by now :lol

Can't wait for Turkey, even if the track is kinda boring, that Turn 8 is fun to watch, and it will fall on my Birthday weekend (as well as the Indy 500 and Coco Cola 600 )

 

[Dead Man]

Source

Jenson Button is refusing to hand blame to the unnamed mechanic who left a transport cap over his left radiator intake at the start of the Monaco GP.

Button's grand prix came to an end on the second lap of the race after the cap caused his engine to overheat, pretty much cooking it. His retirement from the Monaco GP saw him drop from the very top of the Drivers' standings down to fourth place.

But despite the blow, the reigning World Champ has taken a pragmatic attitude, conceding that yes mistakes were made, everyone makes them at times.

"I am sure the guy involved is gutted and I feel sorry for him," Button told The Times.

"We all make mistakes and we just have to make sure we don't do that again. As soon as I saw the flames and fire from the back of the car, I knew we weren't going any farther.

"It is a human error and I am not going to blame anyone because we all make mistakes."

And it just so happens that Button wouldn't have a leg to stand on if he did start throwing the blame around after he made a mistake in qualifying.

The Brit, who could only manage eighth place on the Monte Carlo grid, drove off with the television remote control still in his cockpit

"That was my fault. I hung on to it. At Rascasse there is a little opening in the fence and I threw it through there. It still works!" he told the Mirror.

And although one can only assume that Martin Whitmarsh was left fuming, the McLaren team boss still managed to bite his tongue.

It is disappointing to everyone in the team and devastating to the person responsible.

"I know these things happen but it is just hard to accept when it does. Inevitably he is devastated. The car went to the grid with no airflow so it was cooked.

"You do what you can but you cannot recover from that. These cars don't have fans, they rely on airflow so if you deny that you are not going to survive very long. We will sit down and talk about it."

See Lewis, that is how you do it. Classy. And LOL at the remote!

 

[Deadman]

Mercedes has now decided not to appeal.

Source

Mercedes GP has decided not to press ahead with its appeal against Michael Schumacher's 20-second penalty in the Monaco Grand Prix.

Schumacher was dropped from sixth place to 12th after the event finished for having overtaken Fernando Alonso at the final corner - shortly after the safety car had pulled in to the pits.

The team believed that the regulations allowed Schumacher to race from the safety car line, but the FIA insisted that cars had to cross the finish line in order. This was because of a differing interpretation of the safety car rules, and especially article 40.13 of F1's Sporting Regulations.

With the FIA having agreed to look into the rules at the next meeting of the Sporting Working Group, Mercedes GP has decided it will not continue with its appeal.

 

[Pterion]

Source

See Lewis, that is how you do it. Classy. And LOL at the remote!

Pretty sure Button would have acted differently if he was in the top 3 rather than 11th place. Probably thankful for a better spent afternoon...

BTW, 4 dry races and 4 times Hamilton has comprehensively beaten Button. Button needs to step up his game in the dry.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Was #4 after 2 races. Now at 37. ;_;

My fantasy sports luck is as awful as ever.

 

[Lucius86]

Down 5 places to 33, really struggling now despite having Kubica!!! :-(

 

[navanman]

Toyota have spoken out about F1 for the first time since they left the sport. They come off as very bitter IMO, they failed in F1 and never had the proper setup to succeed.

Their method of trying to succeed in motorsport since the 90s in WRC, F1, etc.. and when they actually did try with the right people (Mike Gascoyne), they were pushed out by the old guard.

Former Toyota team principal Tadashi Yamashina reckons the Japanese manufacturer will not return to Formula 1 in the current era because the sport has become too "elitist".

Yamashina, who remains a senior managing director at Toyota, believes F1 no longer offers the manufacturer a significant link to its customers and says it is better served competing in other areas of motorsport.

"There is a big gap between Formula 1 and Toyota's actual car users," Yamashina told Automotive News. "F1 remains the pinnacle of auto racing, but its image grew too elitist.

"At races such as Nurburgring [24 Hours], fans can get right into [the] pitlane, mingle with the teams and touch the cars. They can soak up the atmosphere and feel part of the event. By contrast, average fans have no hope of strolling the paddock at an F1 race. For the fortunate few who can afford to do that, it's fine.

"I think the best kind of races are those in which people can get in close to the race."

Members of Toyota's board will attend this weekend's World Touring Car Championship event at Monza to evaluate a future touring car programme.

 

[Templar Wizard]

Interesting monaco 2007 revisit, regarding Ron Dennis and Alonso:



Alonso's last victory in Monaco was in 2007, and it was the event that marked the beginning of the end of his relationship with McLaren and their former team principal Ron Dennis.

That race is remembered as one that Alonso won thanks to team orders, after McLaren told team-mate Lewis Hamilton to slow down and not challenge Alonso for the victory.

But that reading is wrong.

This has never come out before, but it was Dennis's actions after that race that so angered Alonso, and which convinced him the team would always be behind Hamilton and not him. That was the backdrop to the tumultuous fall-out that enveloped McLaren and Alonso as that famous 'spy-gate' summer unfolded.

As a McLaren insider revealed to me: "Fernando won in Monaco fair and square in 2007.

"Lewis was generally quicker through the weekend, but in qualifying Fernando did it and Lewis didn't. Lewis was quicker in the first run but then he made mistakes and Fernando got pole.

"Fernando won the race because he pulled an 11-second gap in the first stint when Lewis had (tyre) graining and after that Fernando was just cruising because we had rear brake issues.

"But after the race, Ron said to Fernando: 'Be nice to Lewis because we had to (pit) stop him early.' And Fernando said: 'What do you mean? I was just cruising.'

"He got very annoyed about that because it was like Ron saying we handed you the victory. Even after that, the relationship was unrecoverable."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2010/05/alonso_overreaching_in_reargua.html#more

I agree with Benson that Alonso is pulling a 'il leone' for this year. there is a thin line between pushing to the absolute limit and coming back with the wheel in your hands occasionally, or simply letting it get a bit loose. he needs a faultless race in Turkey to sweep the decks and take the real fight to the Red Bulls.

 

[Dead Man]

http://planetf1.com/news/3213/6163917/FIA-Admit-To-Grey-Areas-After-Schu-Move

The FIA have admitted that rules regarding overtaking behind the Safety Car need to be amended following the final lap confusion in Monaco.

Michael Schumacher was slapped with a 20-second post-race penalty for passing Fernando Alonso shortly after the Safety Car returned to the pits on the final corner.

However, the German and his Mercedes team insist they were not in the wrong as race control messages of 'Track Clear' and the green flags and lights shown by the marshals meant drivers were free to race.

Although the team opted not to appeal against the punishment, they asked the FIA to include article 40.13 on the agenda of the next Sporting Working Group meeting.

The FIA have heeded their request and the matter will be discussed in Geneva next month.

A statement from motor sport's governing body read:'The problems identified during the final lap of the Monaco Grand Prix, counting for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, showed a lack of clarity in the application of the rule prohibiting overtaking behind the Safety Car.

'Adjustments to the regulations are necessary to clarify the procedure that cars must meet when the last lap is controlled by the Safety Car whilst also ensuring that the signaling for teams and drivers is made more clear.

'These adjustments will help to avoid the problem which occurred during the Monaco Grand Prix from happening in the future.

'The Formula One Commission, upon a proposal of the F1 Sporting Working Group will submit an amendment to the Sporting Regulations to address this issue. These amendments will be considered by the World Motor Sport Council at its next meeting in Geneva on June 23.'

 

[mrklaw]

So they admit that the rules are ambiguous at best, but the punishment still stands?

 

[moojito]

Aye, you would think given the admitted lack of clarity, common sense should prevail and they should put Alonso 6th and Schumacher back in 7th.

 

[Dead Man]

So they admit that the rules are ambiguous at best, but the punishment still stands?

Aye, you would think given the admitted lack of clarity, common sense should prevail and they should put Alonso 6th and Schumacher back in 7th.

Yeah, seems pretty dodgy to hand out penalties on what is admitted to be a badly written rule. Give Alonso back the place, sure, but the penalty for Schumi is way out of proportion given this admission.

 

[Dead Man]

Just a little something I'm sure a certain team principle would rather forget:

I have no idea where it is from, but he certainly has the porn star look down.

 

[navanman]

Vettel to get new chassis for Turkey:

Sebastian Vettel is to be given a new chassis for the Turkish Grand Prix after his Red Bull Racing team discovered a fault on the car he had used in Monaco.

The German has been beaten by team-mate Mark Webber in the last two races, and in Monaco he had no response for his team-mate's pace throughout the weekend.

After the cars returned to the Red Bull Racing factory earlier this week, the team conducted a detailed investigation into the car Vettel has used all season (chassis number 3), and discovered a fault - although it has not specified exactly what it is.

With the outfit determined to give both its drivers an equal chance of battling for the championship, however, it has decided to give Vettel a replacement chassis for the next race of the season in Istanbul.

When asked by AUTOSPORT to clarify the chassis situation, team principal Christian Horner said: "Sebastian Vettel experienced some handling peculiarities with his current chassis during the Monaco GP. Upon further investigation a small defect was found on his chassis, which will be replaced for the next race in Turkey."

Webber used chassis number 2 for the season opener in Bahrain, but switched to chassis 4 after that.

Lotus shifts development to 2011 car:

Lotus has elected to shift design focus onto next year's car in the hope that the head-start on its 2011 challenger will help it surprise the opposition.

The Hingham-based outfit has made good progress with its T127 this season, with a major aerodynamic upgrade introduced at the Spanish Grand Prix helping the outfit close down the gap on the established outfits.

And although the team plans to introduce another update for the British Grand Prix, Lotus' technical chief has confirmed that the priority now is to get on with ensuring it does as good a job as possible for 2011.

"We still have stuff coming through and there will probably be a package for Silverstone, but now we are very much concentrating on 2011," Gascoyne told AUTOSPORT. "The 2011 model is going in the wind tunnel soon.

"This year we were always going to play catch up. Next year, with the big rule changes, it levels the playing field and we need to put our resources into that. So we want to keep pushing, but we want to look at next year as well."

With the limited time frame that the team had to create its 2010 car, having only been given the green light for its entry six months before the start of the season, Gascoyne admits that the team had to focus on simply getting its challenger ready for this year rather than pushing it to the design limit.

And although he thinks further improvements can be made to the T127, he reckons that resources will actually be better spent focusing on 2011 because there is little hope of overhauling the current teams in the points' table.

"We want to get 10th [in the Constructors' Championship] and realistically, even if we made the car better, would we get ninth or eighth? Probably not.

"Therefore is it worth putting resources into that, or switching them to next year? There is also the commercial aspect you want to be seen moving forward this year, but we want to take some people by surprise next year."

He added: "We are still testing in the wind tunnel and there are bits in production that are coming through, so we are not stopping now.

"We are also taking weight out of the car. We don't have carbon suspension on the car, that will be coming through for Silverstone, and that will obviously carry over to next year. We are pretty happy with where we are."

Williams call for 2011 tyre spec testing:

Formula 1 teams should be granted a special post-grand prix test session after one of this season's races to help them get an understanding of next year's tyres.

That is the view of Williams technical director Sam Michael, who thinks that the best solution for helping teams better understand tyre characteristics for their 2011 car designs is to give them a day's running with the new tyre supplier.

F1 teams are hoping to finalise whether they want Pirelli or Michelin for next year before the Turkish Grand Prix - although teams already have to get on with their 2011 designs without knowing who will supply tyres.

Michael reckons that even with full data from F1's new tyre supplier it will be hard for teams to fully understand how the rubber will behave.

"We have to just crack on with the design, assuming the tyres are similar to what we have got now because we don't have any other data," Michael told AUTOSPORT.

"We haven't decided on the tyre supplier, and even when you get the data it will be hard to ascertain the differences between Bridgestone and whoever it is without running the car on track. Hopefully we will have some sort of test.

"I think the ideal thing would be to stay back after one or two grands prix, maybe stay back on the Monday after Monza or Abu Dhabi, and do two one-hour practice sessions with a couple of sets of the new tyres if they can be produced that quickly."

Abu Dhabi is already in talks with F1 teams about holding a test immediately after the season finale, possibly for the young driver running that is currently allowed in the regulations.

Still no word if 2011 will be on 13" or 18" tyres. Its too late to make change to 18" wheels for next year though, IMO.

Upstate New York F1 track pitch to FIA:

New York state could yet be the venue of a United States Grand Prix, after details emerged this week of plans to host a race at the Monticello Motor Club - 90 minutes from Manhattan.

Just a few weeks after a bid to hold a race in New Jersey was scuppered when the mayor ruled it out, it has been revealed that talks are underway for a race at the venue that is located at the foot of the Catskill Mountains.

American publication Autoweek has published a letter from Ari Strauss, the president of the Monticello Motor Club, who talks about meeting F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and having hosted F1 track architect Hermann Tilke at the venue.

In the letter, Strauss says: "A few months ago, [MMC chairman] Bill McMichael and I met with Bernie Ecclestone, President/CEO of Formula One Management (FOM), and discussed the terms for an exclusive 10-year United States Grand Prix to be hosted at MMC.

"Shortly thereafter, Hermann Tilke, the chief engineer and circuit designer for F1, spent time at MMC and confirmed that our track and surrounding properties, with some expansion and minor track modifications, is an excellent location for a Grand Prix

"Since receiving a letter of understanding from FOM confirming their hope to bring the U.S. Grand Prix to Monticello, Bill and I have continued to secure the backing and support of local, state, and federal politicians and organizations."

Despite the hopes expressed by Ecclestone, Strauss does admit that it is far from certain an F1 deal can be pulled off.

"Securing F1 is like winning the Olympics, competition is fierce, and this is not a done deal," he added. "While the prospect of F1 at MMC is exciting, we remain focused on our core business: the club and its members."

The Monticello venue is 4.1 miles long, and features 22 corners.

Looks like a pretty crappy track and not very suitable for F1.

Mercedes revert to long wheelbase W01

Mercedes has confirmed it will revert to using the long wheelbase version of the W01 in next week’s Turkish Grand Prix.
Ross Brawn added the team have “major and very challenging upgrades” planned for the next few races:

I am encouraged that we have made progress over the last two races and that we have identified our areas of weakness which we are working hard to rectify. We have some major and very challenging upgrades for the next few races which have been made possible by the commitment and hard work of everyone at the factory over the past weeks.

In Turkey, we will return to our previous suspension system and longer wheelbase car, we have the latest iteration of our ‘F-duct’ rear wing plus further aerodynamic developments.

The longer W01 has only been used at the Spanish Grand Prix so far this year – the team believed the shorter wheelbase car was better-suited to the Monte-Carlo track.

Nico Rosberg said he was looking forward to racing at Istanbul Park, especially because of the track’s distinctive and challenging turn eight:
Istanbul Park is a great circuit and one of the best of the newer tracks that we visit. From a drivers’ point of view, the layout provides some good opportunities for overtaking with a very wide track, lots of late braking zones and gradient changes. Turn Eight is the corner that everyone talks about. The triple apex is probably one of the longest corners that we drive and it has very high G levels. It’s great fun to drive and you can make up a lot of time there if you get it just right.