Gully State said:
They still have a HIS 4850 for $99 ($89 after rebate):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161259
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They still have a HIS 4850 for $99 ($89 after rebate):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161259
ElyrionX said:
You in Canada? I've found that NCIX and the like sell GTX 275 for roughly around the same price as HD 4890s here, so that's worth considering as well.
MSI TwinFrozr GTX 275 for $239.99! That's the equivalent of $210 US.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=37424&vpn=N275GTX-Twin Frozr OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1025
Why couldn't I wait a week?
Ugh, after some some financial bumps in the road, I was unable to drop all that money on upgrading my rig - now I'm back in the black with a little extra cash, and I don't think I can do the full upgrade, but I can do the essentials (my mobo is busted right now so my rig is dead as it is).
Case
Motherboard
Fan
- am I getting better at picking stuff or do I still suck (all that after tax and shipping is almost exactly 300 bucks) - I also need to get a new GPU and better memory (2gb at 533hz ugh) - but the stuff I have my eye on (Radeon 4850 1gb, 4gb 1066hz) would cost me another 200 bucks at least, which would have me cutting it too close this month. I figure at any rate, it'll all be cheaper next month.
Case
Motherboard
Fan
- am I getting better at picking stuff or do I still suck (all that after tax and shipping is almost exactly 300 bucks) - I also need to get a new GPU and better memory (2gb at 533hz ugh) - but the stuff I have my eye on (Radeon 4850 1gb, 4gb 1066hz) would cost me another 200 bucks at least, which would have me cutting it too close this month. I figure at any rate, it'll all be cheaper next month.
Raidmax PSU's aren't that greatKinitari said:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129045
Mobo is Biostar, eh...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128372
Cooler is for the wrong socket:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103031
No need for spending extra on 1066 RAM, get cheap 800Mhz sticks, also a 1GB 4850 will offer 0-5% better performance than the 512MB version and it can't utilize the memory at higher resolutions anyway.
KilledByBill
Member
brain_stew said:
Thanks for the input guys. This is the path I may well take, assuming that we start to get some idea of system requirements for StarCraft 2 coming out of the beta (or *gasp* if Blizzard releases the specs). I definitely want to be able to play the can campaign on high settings with a stable frame rate.
Do you guys have any recommendations on sites for decent second-hand GPUs? Seems like EBay's limited to re-sellers charging jacked up prices or guys scooping their old card up the floor and throwing up there for 40 bucks, buyer beware....
Ordered my new monitor earlier and it should be here tomorrow, managed to order before they increased the price by 20 quid (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-028-NE) and it turns out the model has been discontinued and NEC were losing 200 quid on each one :lol
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
I just install the new drivers. Never do a sweep or anything. Havent had a problem ever.
Hey guys I'm in the process of making a new pc for a friend of mine.. these are the parts I'm thinking of using.
Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147001
GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115206
Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128368
Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134582
PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
He has am on an EXTREMELY limited budget (over budget actually) so anything that can lower price without sacrificing it's ability is fine. He plans on gaming a bunch, and since he only has a 17" monitor atm, no extreme resolutions. He also plan to use it for 3d Modeling and rendering, so keep that in mind. He's also keeping his DVD drive and HDD for now. Anything over $700 is a nogo, and it would be better if it where closer to $550. Thanks for the assistance in advance.
Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147001
GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115206
Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128368
Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134582
PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
He has am on an EXTREMELY limited budget (over budget actually) so anything that can lower price without sacrificing it's ability is fine. He plans on gaming a bunch, and since he only has a 17" monitor atm, no extreme resolutions. He also plan to use it for 3d Modeling and rendering, so keep that in mind. He's also keeping his DVD drive and HDD for now. Anything over $700 is a nogo, and it would be better if it where closer to $550. Thanks for the assistance in advance.
pseudocaesar
Member
Im in the market for a new monitor (im getting a new PC soon, need a monitor asap), so I need something decent enough to handle gaming later on. My budget is around the AU200/US160 mark, and want at least 19 inch.
Im looking at maybe this one,
http://www.tasmanianpc.com.au/index.php?q=item&cat=1923&id=6609.
Any tips on what to look for? Whats the best in that range?
Im looking at maybe this one,
http://www.tasmanianpc.com.au/index.php?q=item&cat=1923&id=6609.
Any tips on what to look for? Whats the best in that range?
Case: Antec 300 + 430w or other AntecMcLovin said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129045
GPU: GTX 260 (CoD: 5 + FC2 + Rebate) or HD 4890 ... Both have Double Lifetime warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
CPU: Toss up between Q8200 and Q9400, 9400 is way more, but has VT, aka running XP in Vista. 8200 does not. Q9400 also has 6MB vs 4MB of cache.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115131
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055
RAM: Solid stuff, don't need more than DDR2, lifetime warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
Slightly step up GB Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359
PSU: Included with Case, Antec Earthwatts
Now someone can substitute the AMD mobo/CPU in there :lol
1920x1080 if you are lucky, but probably 1680x1050.pseudocaesar said:
What graphics card do you have? What can you buy? (Brands / models available to you)
You'll probably find Acer, Spectre, and maybe 1 or 2 others in the cheaper band of LCD's.
Acer is pretty decent.
From that site these 2 stand out to me:
http://www.tasmanianpc.com.au/index.php?q=item&cat=1923&id=6231
http://www.tasmanianpc.com.au/index.php?q=item&cat=1923&id=6931
The LG is larger and has better response times for just a bit more. Overall general impressions seem good to the average person.
pseudocaesar
Member
Hazaro said:
Well, at the moment im running pretty much a...well shitheap, its like an old old Radeon (X800 maybe? I forget). I dont use my PC for gaming outside of RTW (which runs like shit). Buuuuut, the monitor I have now is on the fritz, it makes buzzing noises and static for a few seconds, then goes back to normal. So, before I buy a new PC, I need a monitor lol. In the future I plan on getting like a mid-high PC. Capable of running but not maxing Crysis (cant afford too much). But to be honest I havent thought that far ahead yet, I guess maybe a 9600GT or todays equivalent.
EDIT: Yeh that LG is probably the go looking at that. This is gonna sound silly, but how does the resolution labeled there factor into gaming? Is that basically saying the max resolution I could run a game in would be 1680x1050? Or can I upscale or whatever?
That is the max res, however LCD's look best in their native resolution so it's best to play in windowed or at the LCD resolution.pseudocaesar said:
A $100 HD4850 is more than capable of pumping out Crysis on vHigh, the build I just did above shows how incredible a rig you can get for so cheap, trim $100 off CPU and get a cheap dualie and you save even more.
Not sure if the price cuts on the ATi cards will hit you soon, but I recall that the 4830 is decently priced in AU, next to the 9600GT like you said.
pseudocaesar
Member
Hazaro said:
Awesome, thanks for that. I'll have to come back here when im ready to build.
brain_stew
Member
McLovin said:
Go with an X3 720 based rig then, the extra core will come in very handy.
Take this GPU instead, similar cooling but cheaper and with a free game (if the one year warranty bothers you then the XFX card is a better buy, see the second link):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150395
This case/PSU combo is better for the money in my book:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065
Better RAM can be had for less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269
Thanks for the replies Hazaro and Brian! Do you guys think that 430w PSU included in the case mentioned would be enough? I ask because the few people I've talked to said over 500w is a must. It doesn't matter if the case is ugly btw. It can be ugly as sin, we just need it cheap.
brain_stew
Member
McLovin said:
I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't think it was enough, the wattage the figure actually means very little its the amperage on the 12v rail that matters (and the overall quality) and the Antec Earthwatts deliver in this area.
If you'd like something a bit beefier on the PSU side (might be nice so you're well set for future upgrades and the like, a good PSU will last you several builds) and don't mind an "uglier" case, then this may be a bettter bundle for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129037
Chiggs
Gold Member
I've been mulling over the idea of building a new rig, but I've been fairly out of the loop in recent months thanks to school. So, here are some questions:
1. Phenoms - what's the general consensus?
2. Core i7 - any new models coming down the pipeline I should wait for?
3. DDR 3 - best brand/speed?
4. Windows 7 - Is it still November?
5. DirectX11 cards - when are they rumored to hit?
6. General consensus on best Corei7/Phenom motherboards (I've always been an Asus guy).
Budget is 1500.00 - $2000.00 (and I already have an awesome case and power supply).
1. Phenoms - what's the general consensus?
2. Core i7 - any new models coming down the pipeline I should wait for?
3. DDR 3 - best brand/speed?
4. Windows 7 - Is it still November?
5. DirectX11 cards - when are they rumored to hit?
6. General consensus on best Corei7/Phenom motherboards (I've always been an Asus guy).
Budget is 1500.00 - $2000.00 (and I already have an awesome case and power supply).
MisterAnderson
Member
Quick question on fan setup in my soon to be here Anten Nine Hundred Two:
The side fan port comes empty so I bought an extra 120mm to put there. Is the side fan meant to be an exhaust or intake?
Edit: Also, should I choose to Xfire 4890's, would a 750W Corsair PSU be sufficient? The CPU would be an i7 FYI.
The side fan port comes empty so I bought an extra 120mm to put there. Is the side fan meant to be an exhaust or intake?
Edit: Also, should I choose to Xfire 4890's, would a 750W Corsair PSU be sufficient? The CPU would be an i7 FYI.
blackMamba1187
Member
This deal looks sweet. Might have to get at it. Gotten from cheapassgamer.
Dell 24" 1080p monitor w/vga, dvi & hdmi inputs
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=eep&cs=2236&sku=320-7345
199.99
- 13.93 was automatically taken off during checkout
Dell 24" 1080p monitor w/vga, dvi & hdmi inputs
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=eep&cs=2236&sku=320-7345
199.99
- 13.93 was automatically taken off during checkout
MisterAnderson
Member
blackMamba1187 said:
Shit. Tempted to get that even though I have a perfectly sufficient 20" LG 1680x1050 LCD. Could always do a dual screen setup I suppose.
Crazymoogle
Member
Ikuu said:
Yeah, I use an OCZ Vertex 120 with my rig and Windows 7 RC.
BravoSuperStar
Member
Chiggs said:
1. You want the phenom II's, if you are going AMD
2. Yes there will be the "Lynnfield" CPU's coming later this year that are meant to be "mainstream" Core i7's.
3. You should be good with Corsair/OCZ/Kingston, the usual brands.
4. Oct 22, but you can download the Release Candidate 32/64bit for free now, lasts till next July.
5. End of the year, AMD will be first to market with DX11 cards.
6. Asus for high end, Gigabyte for value
MWS Natural
Member
Awwh man, got home today and I have a vertical pink line through my new 23inch Samsung monitor...had it less than a damn month!
Charmicarmicat
Banned
I was wondering if anyone could suggest a very small and very budget build for me. Basically i want to put together a little box i can hook up to my TV which is dedicated to playing emulators. I know this subject is a little sticky so I only want hardware recommendations of course. I've had an itching to hook up my old 16-bit consoles recently and thought this would be the better way to do it, with filters etc. Nothing too taxing, just SNES, Megadrive, MAME, NeoGeo stuff and the like.
Any good recommendations for small motherboards and cases, and a decent and cheap processor and graphics card? Thanks in advance.
Any good recommendations for small motherboards and cases, and a decent and cheap processor and graphics card? Thanks in advance.
MWS Natural
Member
Hazaro said:
I changed ports on the video card but even when I turn the monitor off and disconnect it I still see it.
BravoSuperStar
Member
Charmicarmicat said:
Check out the Acer Aspire Revo's, or other Nvidia ION boxes.
So I updated,
Motherboard drivers.
GPU Drivers.
Sound drivers.
And Vista to SP2 and things seem better already. I haven't had any BSOD which is a very good thing because the old POS drivers kept saying ATIKDMAG.SYS or another can't update the video fast enough or whatever.
Motherboard drivers.
GPU Drivers.
Sound drivers.
And Vista to SP2 and things seem better already. I haven't had any BSOD which is a very good thing because the old POS drivers kept saying ATIKDMAG.SYS or another can't update the video fast enough or whatever.
Can GAF halp me build a decent gaming PC? I want to build one literally just for Street Fighter 4 so that I can put it inside an existing Japanese cabinet (along with, you know, other stuff).
I've been out of the PC gaming world for years now, so I literally don't know where to start when it comes to picking out new hardware. I want to try and keep it under $800 and be able to run SF4 without any problems (60+ fps, max settings, ect), so what should I generally be looking for in terms of processors (I believe I'm going Intel) and video cards? On these two key areas, I feel like I totally have no knowledge anymore.
Here are the system requirements of SF4-
Street Fighter 4 Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Windows XP
CPU: Intel Pentium4 2.0GHz or higher
RAM: 1GB or higher
HDD: 10GB of free space or more
Video Card: DirectX 9.0c/Shader3.0 or higher compatible, NVIDIA GeForce6600 series, ATI Radeon(TM) X1600 or higher or higher, VRAM :256MB or higher
Sound: DirectSound compatible, DirectX 9.0c (or higher) compatible
Input Devices: Mouse, Keyboard
Street Fighter 4 Maximum System Requirements:
OS: Windows Vista
CPU: Intel Core2Duo 2.0GHz or higher
RAM: 2GB or higher
HDD: 10GB of free space or more
Video Card: DirectX 9.0c/Shader3.0 or higher compatible, NVIDIA GeForce8600 series or higher, ATI Radeon(TM) X 1900 or higher, VRAM :512MB or higher
Sound: DirectSound compatible, DirectX 9.0c (or higher) compatible
Input Devices: Gamepad :Xbox360 Controller for Windows
I've been out of the PC gaming world for years now, so I literally don't know where to start when it comes to picking out new hardware. I want to try and keep it under $800 and be able to run SF4 without any problems (60+ fps, max settings, ect), so what should I generally be looking for in terms of processors (I believe I'm going Intel) and video cards? On these two key areas, I feel like I totally have no knowledge anymore.
Here are the system requirements of SF4-
Street Fighter 4 Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Windows XP
CPU: Intel Pentium4 2.0GHz or higher
RAM: 1GB or higher
HDD: 10GB of free space or more
Video Card: DirectX 9.0c/Shader3.0 or higher compatible, NVIDIA GeForce6600 series, ATI Radeon(TM) X1600 or higher or higher, VRAM :256MB or higher
Sound: DirectSound compatible, DirectX 9.0c (or higher) compatible
Input Devices: Mouse, Keyboard
Street Fighter 4 Maximum System Requirements:
OS: Windows Vista
CPU: Intel Core2Duo 2.0GHz or higher
RAM: 2GB or higher
HDD: 10GB of free space or more
Video Card: DirectX 9.0c/Shader3.0 or higher compatible, NVIDIA GeForce8600 series or higher, ATI Radeon(TM) X 1900 or higher, VRAM :512MB or higher
Sound: DirectSound compatible, DirectX 9.0c (or higher) compatible
Input Devices: Gamepad :Xbox360 Controller for Windows
I feel for you. The Atikmdag error pissed me off so much I can't see myself going back to ATI for a very long time.Kadey said:
Mr Jared said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129060
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128368
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150337
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
I'm sure someone could do better
Hopefully it comes out on Steam so you don't need a DVD drive.
tahrikmili
Member
I have a problem with HDMI Out.. I know the post is a little long but please bear with me. If anyone can help me with it I'll be VERY grateful!
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Yesterday, I hooked up my PC to my HDTV through HDMI using the ATI DVI-HDMI adapter. It all started after this.
My HDTV is an HD Ready LCD with 1366x768 resolution. No matter what resolution I pick the image refuses to sit correctly on the screen.
I pick 1280x720 60Hz output and the image is incorrectly displayed. Parts of the desktop is outside the viewing area on all sides. I've never had such a problem with any image source before, so I mess around with the CCC and find out about custom HDTV resolutions. I say fine, let's try this, and I set up one for myself - it turns out I can tweak the 720p signal for a viewing area of 1152x684 and get a full image.
Now, if you can do numbers in your head, you'll notice that this is NOT a 16:9 aspect ratio. The height is off - it should've been 648. What this means is, now I have rectangular pixels on my screen! Worse yet, when I play movies in 16:9 aspect ratio, I get black bars on top and bottom, which I shouldn't get on a 16:9 HDTV.
So I say what the hell and switch back to regular 720p and try the scaling option. To my surprise and horror when I underscan the image so that I can fit it horizontally, I have the exact same black bars on the top and bottom.
My graphic card is outputting HDTV in a wrong aspect ratio.
What the hell is going on? Is the driver messing up because my main monitor is 16:10 and not 16:9? Can I scale the image outside the aspect ratio - i.e. stretch it vertically more than horizontally?
This thing is driving me nuts, I spent 2 hours last night trying to fix it and gave up. My system is below and I've tried using Catalyst 9.5 and 9.6.
AOpen H600B12
High Power 430W
Biostar TA780G-M2+
AMD Phenom X3 8750
A-Data 2x 2GB PC6400
Powercolor Radeon HD3850 PCS
Samsung HD300LJ
Philips DVDR824K/40
Samsung SyncMaster 932NW
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RC Build 7100
Please help me GAF, you are my only hope
e
Yesterday, I hooked up my PC to my HDTV through HDMI using the ATI DVI-HDMI adapter. It all started after this.
My HDTV is an HD Ready LCD with 1366x768 resolution. No matter what resolution I pick the image refuses to sit correctly on the screen.
I pick 1280x720 60Hz output and the image is incorrectly displayed. Parts of the desktop is outside the viewing area on all sides. I've never had such a problem with any image source before, so I mess around with the CCC and find out about custom HDTV resolutions. I say fine, let's try this, and I set up one for myself - it turns out I can tweak the 720p signal for a viewing area of 1152x684 and get a full image.
Now, if you can do numbers in your head, you'll notice that this is NOT a 16:9 aspect ratio. The height is off - it should've been 648. What this means is, now I have rectangular pixels on my screen! Worse yet, when I play movies in 16:9 aspect ratio, I get black bars on top and bottom, which I shouldn't get on a 16:9 HDTV.
So I say what the hell and switch back to regular 720p and try the scaling option. To my surprise and horror when I underscan the image so that I can fit it horizontally, I have the exact same black bars on the top and bottom.
My graphic card is outputting HDTV in a wrong aspect ratio.
What the hell is going on? Is the driver messing up because my main monitor is 16:10 and not 16:9? Can I scale the image outside the aspect ratio - i.e. stretch it vertically more than horizontally?
This thing is driving me nuts, I spent 2 hours last night trying to fix it and gave up. My system is below and I've tried using Catalyst 9.5 and 9.6.
AOpen H600B12
High Power 430W
Biostar TA780G-M2+
AMD Phenom X3 8750
A-Data 2x 2GB PC6400
Powercolor Radeon HD3850 PCS
Samsung HD300LJ
Philips DVDR824K/40
Samsung SyncMaster 932NW
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RC Build 7100
Please help me GAF, you are my only hope
Crazymoogle
Member
tahrikmili, sounds like the monitor is underscanning...but what particular TV is it? You should try to find out what resolutions it actually supports (usually, not many. I'd guess not 1366x768 native, anyway, but the manual usually shows all valid modes)
Turn off any sort of stretch modes, see if there is any sort of underscan/overscan option on your TV, and then give us a clear idea of what the following resolutions turn out as:
1280x720@60
1366x768@60
1920x1080@60 (yes, humor me)
I guess the only help I can offer is to try and output clean at those resolutions, and see if the TV side byitself has any sort of tweaking to offer. Also, it is worth trying to set your desktop to 16:9 and then port out and see what happens...
Turn off any sort of stretch modes, see if there is any sort of underscan/overscan option on your TV, and then give us a clear idea of what the following resolutions turn out as:
1280x720@60
1366x768@60
1920x1080@60 (yes, humor me)
I guess the only help I can offer is to try and output clean at those resolutions, and see if the TV side byitself has any sort of tweaking to offer. Also, it is worth trying to set your desktop to 16:9 and then port out and see what happens...
tahrikmili
Member
The TV is an LG 32LC2R, a somewhat aged 720p panel with a native resolution of 1366x768
It would seem the TV IS indeed underscanning at first but why and how would it underscan out of aspect ratio? Moreover, other HDMI 720p sources fit on the TV perfectly with no scanning errors. I am more inclined to believe this is a driver issue.
The TV has no scanning mode options I'm afraid and no service mode menu that I'm aware of. It's set to display at 16:9 over HDMI.
At 1280x720 @ 60Hz the image is stretched beyond the TV's panel both horizontally and vertically. When I underscan the image by 8% through the drivers it fits on the screen horizontally. It is not displayed in a correct 16:9 ratio, the height is too short. TV shows signal as 720p 60Hz.
At 1360x768 The image sits perfectly horizontally. Verticaly, I get black bars on top and bottom but these are NOT 3p black bars I would expect to get at this resolution. The Aspect Ratio is definitely not correct, the height is too short. TV shows signal az 720p 60Hz (why? HDMI can't output non-standard HD resolutions?)
At 1900x1080 @ 30Hz I have the same problems as 1280x720 @ 60Hz. TV shows signal as 1080i 30Hz.
I will add photos when I get home. I will also try setting the desktop monitor to 16:9. I have a hunch that this is the problem and the driver can't output at two different aspect ratios correctly. Which would be utterly idiotic but I've come to expect worse from drivers..
It would seem the TV IS indeed underscanning at first but why and how would it underscan out of aspect ratio? Moreover, other HDMI 720p sources fit on the TV perfectly with no scanning errors. I am more inclined to believe this is a driver issue.
The TV has no scanning mode options I'm afraid and no service mode menu that I'm aware of. It's set to display at 16:9 over HDMI.
At 1280x720 @ 60Hz the image is stretched beyond the TV's panel both horizontally and vertically. When I underscan the image by 8% through the drivers it fits on the screen horizontally. It is not displayed in a correct 16:9 ratio, the height is too short. TV shows signal as 720p 60Hz.
At 1360x768 The image sits perfectly horizontally. Verticaly, I get black bars on top and bottom but these are NOT 3p black bars I would expect to get at this resolution. The Aspect Ratio is definitely not correct, the height is too short. TV shows signal az 720p 60Hz (why? HDMI can't output non-standard HD resolutions?)
At 1900x1080 @ 30Hz I have the same problems as 1280x720 @ 60Hz. TV shows signal as 1080i 30Hz.
I will add photos when I get home. I will also try setting the desktop monitor to 16:9. I have a hunch that this is the problem and the driver can't output at two different aspect ratios correctly. Which would be utterly idiotic but I've come to expect worse from drivers..
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Any idea as to when we will see uhh.. nvidia ion equipped netbooks? ...yeah, there's the Len ideapad S12 but when will see more models?
I really want to buy one but I'm trying to hold out.
I really want to buy one but I'm trying to hold out.
brain_stew
Member
Mr Jared said:
You can do that for over $200 under budget and that's without scrimping in any area at all either, should be fine for even 1080p with 4xAA, max settings and a rock solid 60fps ingame judging by the benchmark thread:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150337
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188
Comes to $585 + there's $30 worth of rebates to claim. Whilst any game will run fine on that rig, since you have the budget for it, you could always do these two upgrades, since they're well worth the money:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
That'd be $777 (plus $10 rebate) and will deliver way above and beyond what you originally wanted.
Crazymoogle
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tahrikmili said:
It's entirely possible. We just need to narrow this down to one or the other...
FWIW, I had very similar problems on my old PC (HD2600 card) with my Plasma. Haven't tried it with my 285 yet though.
tahrikmili said:
Hmm. So at 720p, it shows up fine in aspect, but it's underscanning? And when you set manual underscan, it's only doing so horizontally? That does sound like drivers. Are you just running Nvidia's driver package?
tahrikmili said:
No, that sounds like a TV reporting issue. It's probably only build to say the regular ATSC resolutions. HDMI can definitely output 1360, but it's very likely that your TV has a max resolution that's different than its real resolution; a lot of TVs, especially a couple of years ago, would have a "PC MAX" and a "TV MAX", which is to say they would reserve 1:1 resolution for a VGA port and only use ATSC on the HDMI/component/SVGA/RCA plugs. (Presumably this was done to route in the VGA without using the scaler.) In cases where the manufacturer was selling cheap and pro brands, they would just strip the VGA out of the cheaper set.
Yeah, it's crap, but sets are slowly digging out of that technological hole lately. Give the aspect ratio idea a try and let us know what's up.