whiterabbit
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Will this be a good computer for several years? http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668249.php
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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
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VictimOfGrief
Banned
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ChoklitReign
Member
Hell yes. If that was branded by Alienware it would be 3 times as expensive.whiterabbit said:
Caesar III
Member
there is not that much space on the front, so this one would not fit in the caseZyzyxxz said:
But on the back of the graphics cards there is enough space for everything If there woulld be a possibility like the linked heatpipe with cooling on the back that would be great. but I haven't found such a solution outside of this msi card yet.There is a zalman solution but this one is on both sides of the cards, so it doesn't fit too
rohlfinator said:
yea i actually have one of the seagates that are supposed to break, although when i check it on seagate its not affected.
anyway, its not a constant clicking like i think that would be. its kind of just the normal sound i hear whenever the computer turns off. you know how u hear the fans wind down and then theres 1 click of some kind? kind of sounds like that.
IF its the harddrive, and not something else, basically sounds like its turning off and then on at a later time. im thinking its part of my ASUS motherboard though, because its all about being green. just dont see that mentioned anywhere. isnt it true a HD fails when the spin increases and decreases?
MWS Natural
Member
CcrooK said:
Damn you could have saved some money. Read today that the 4th core on the X3 can be unlocked. http://www.techpowerup.com/86100/Phenom_II_X3_Can_be_Unlocked_to_Phenom_II_X4?.html
Crazymoogle
Member
MWS Natural said:
...Unless there was a good binning reason for going tri-core on his particular CPU.
Read up a few posts. (From yours)Meier said:I am replacing my stock Intel fan with this one, anyone used one personally? Already ordered and coming via overnight, so no turning back now. :lol
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JSFZPS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It had excellent reviews on Newegg and Amazon so I pulled the trigger. Holy shit, that thing is mammoth! I hope it fits! :lol
It's unnecessarily heavy, doesn't cooler as well as cheaper alternatives, and costs more than top end. It's also sharp.
I had a 9500 for a while. It looks neat though.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Waikis said:
Oh snap!
whiterabbit
Member
Thanks for the responses.
Weird, all the reviews said it cooled incredibly well. It has like 1500 of them on Newegg and they're almost all 5-star along with an avg of 5-stars on Amazon (32 reviews total).Hazaro said:
I know it will offer a big improvement over my stock fan -- guess I'll see what happens.
Hey GAF, I need a new PC! I've been reading this topic for sometime, its been very helpful to decide on parts for a new PC.
Several years ago, I bought a Dell XPS Gen 5, and it sounds too loud. The PSU makes high pitched noise, it sounds like a jet engine when it turns on, it produces a lot of heat, and I can hear the fans hum. I've looked in the case and decided its not worth trying to fix it up because of Dell's parts.
Originally, I needed a new HDD (250 GB filled up) and RAM, and just decided I might as well build my own PC. I'm not really a PC gamer, so I'm not interested in upgrading the video card at the moment, but would if I needed to. I just need a PC to do whatever I need (games, multimedia, video capture), while staying within a budget.
Here's what I've decided on:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Antec Sonata III + 500W Power Supply
Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders - OEM
(Reusing from old PC)
Nvidia GeForce 6800 (will upgrade when necessary)
Sony DVD drive + NEC DVD burner
Sound Blaster Audigy ZS
Are there any advantages to getting a 640GB WD Caviar Black instead of the 750GB and 1TB drives for my main drive? I understand the 640GB uses 2 platters instead of 3 that the higher ones use, so that would help with boot and seek times. I filled up my current HDD capturing video game footage, and ripping my CDs, so I kinda planned to get a second HDD anyways.
Should I bother getting an aftermarket cooler or stick with the included heatseak and fan with the Q9550? I've been looking at the Scythe Ninja line for something quiet and cool.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185074
Several years ago, I bought a Dell XPS Gen 5, and it sounds too loud. The PSU makes high pitched noise, it sounds like a jet engine when it turns on, it produces a lot of heat, and I can hear the fans hum. I've looked in the case and decided its not worth trying to fix it up because of Dell's parts.
Originally, I needed a new HDD (250 GB filled up) and RAM, and just decided I might as well build my own PC. I'm not really a PC gamer, so I'm not interested in upgrading the video card at the moment, but would if I needed to. I just need a PC to do whatever I need (games, multimedia, video capture), while staying within a budget.
Here's what I've decided on:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Antec Sonata III + 500W Power Supply
Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders - OEM
(Reusing from old PC)
Nvidia GeForce 6800 (will upgrade when necessary)
Sony DVD drive + NEC DVD burner
Sound Blaster Audigy ZS
Are there any advantages to getting a 640GB WD Caviar Black instead of the 750GB and 1TB drives for my main drive? I understand the 640GB uses 2 platters instead of 3 that the higher ones use, so that would help with boot and seek times. I filled up my current HDD capturing video game footage, and ripping my CDs, so I kinda planned to get a second HDD anyways.
Should I bother getting an aftermarket cooler or stick with the included heatseak and fan with the Q9550? I've been looking at the Scythe Ninja line for something quiet and cool.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185074
I'm running a dell laptop with a GeForce Go 7300 graphics card and Windows 7 32-bit. Which display drivers should I use? The latest Windows 7 drivers or the latest Notebook drivers for Windows Vista 32-bit? I'm not too worried about having to reformat if the drivers mess up because this is just my dick around laptop but I'd still rather know which one to use before I go and screw it up.
Hazaro said:
you don't know that.
Moore's Law anyone? Now we got games like Crysis but 5 years ago we were playing games with the graphics of Warcraft III and Call of Duty 1. 5 years before that we were playing games like Starcraft and Diablo II, don't assume anything.
I always advise against building a killer rig because the price you pay to get the extra 20% may costs hundreds more over a performance rig that is a notch or two below in terms of performance.
Unless you have crazy income don't bother building something thats the best, I always say go for 2nd best performance to save costs without sacrificing significant performance.
Ryoma-Echizen
Member
Mak said:
Change to Phenom II 940BE and Gigabyte 790GP DS4H / Foxconn A7DA-S, Q9550 + P45 is trusting on a dodo bird. Equal performance for less price.
I'm sticking with my GTX 260 and E7200 for 5 years so it better damn well be fine :lolZyzyxxz said:
This is probably a lie, I'll just try to hold out as long as I can
You are right though, depending on what is played on it probably 3 years, but I would think longer.
Hazaro said:
here's the thing if you build a super expensive rig and expect it to last 5 years it probably will but by the time you get to the end of the 5 year cycle you will be miserable with your gaming experience. Its no secret that gaming performance goes on a downard slope toward as time progresses so its always better to build a decent performing rig now and upgrade integral parts to your needs in 2-3 years depending on product development cycles.
Yeah, I know.Zyzyxxz said:
Even though history says it's advancing insanely fast for the past FOREVER I still don't believe it's possible in the next 5 years to maintain the pace the industry is going at.
It blows my mind every time, it's insane.
I mean it really is impossible to imagine 5 years in the future.
(I still think the will run into problems past 22nm and resort to mass 6/8-Core designs for a few years before moving on)
VictimOfGrief
Banned
System is back up and running!
Now not to dick with it for a while. :lol
Now not to dick with it for a while. :lol
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Question for those with the AMD 720 Phenom 2 Triple Core BE. Are there any OC settings anywhere on what to put voltage and multiplier at to get maximum speed without alot of tweaking?
MWS Natural
Member
Can anyone recommend a good 24-26 monitor for gaming? Is it worth it to go much bigger, have been thinking of selling my 37inch and going with something smaller with a lower response time.
Minsc
Gold Member
mr stroke said:
Got me wondering about what else is in newegg's PC department, and found a pre built i7 for ~$700 cheaper @ $980. Slower video card, less ram, and so forth, but still, a complete i7 system pre-built for under 1K isn't too shabby, though I prefer that gateway myself.
VictimOfGrief
Banned
Hanns-GMWS Natural said:
Samsung
Asus
Acer make good 24"'ers. I personally am going to be picking up the Hanns-G 28" monitor from Costco here this month and kick my 19" LG to the curb.
Minsc said:
And here's a Dell refurb with a 8gb ram and an Ati 4850 for $869. Refurbs come and go from the site but they usually have some good stuff at the dell outlet if you don't want to build your own
brain_stew
Member
Mak said:
You really ought to be going the Phenom ii or Core i7 route, if you've that much money to spend socket 775 is a dead end platform. I wouldn't be reusing those DVD drives either if they're IDE, pay the $20 so you don't have to deal with those God awful cables again.
A 4830 can be had for under $100 and will offer a good 4x the performance of that 6800, it'd be ridiculous for you to cheap out in this area.
32 bit XP? Vista x64 is the OS of choice for an enthusiast, its fundamentally better, the kinks have all been worked out, and it actually lets you make proper use of your quad core and 4GB of RAM.
VictimOfGrief said:System is back up and running!
Now not to dick with it for a while. :lol
Never! That's the fun part.
LowParry
Member
Alrighty. So update on my build. Here's what I have now:
Processor -AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4
Memory - Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800
Graphics - XFX Radeon HD 4870 512MB
Storage - Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 534
PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V
DVD - Samsung SH-S223Q
I think that's my solid build for what I want to pay. My only last few questions are, with the PSU I have. Am I able to perform OC'ing (CPU, GPU) to the point where I don't have to worry about my PSU going crazy?
A few things to note:
With the Phenom II 940, I read (and I can't remember where the hell I read it) that could go by just air cool temps of overclocking the CPU. So to me I figure the stock fan that comes with it will be plenty.
Processor -AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4
Memory - Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800
Graphics - XFX Radeon HD 4870 512MB
Storage - Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 534
PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V
DVD - Samsung SH-S223Q
I think that's my solid build for what I want to pay. My only last few questions are, with the PSU I have. Am I able to perform OC'ing (CPU, GPU) to the point where I don't have to worry about my PSU going crazy?
A few things to note:
With the Phenom II 940, I read (and I can't remember where the hell I read it) that could go by just air cool temps of overclocking the CPU. So to me I figure the stock fan that comes with it will be plenty.
godhandiscen
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Tideas said:
jimmbow said:
I agree with both points of view. For example, in my case I would say, a "huge" ugrade next year. The reason is because some people just like to play all games at maximum settings with 60fps. I have a rig which is even faster than the one in the post above, and I know that it wont give me 60fps at maximum in all games, so I will just wait for technology to move forward before upgrading. Now, there are also people who are happy with high settings and 40fps, and if your goal is that, then that rig is fine for 3 years, and it will be able to play any game at "decent" settings even up to 5 years from now. So yeah, statements about for how long a person is set with a rig, vary on the goals of each person.
What happened to your old system? Did the overclock kill the motherboard or what?VictimOfGrief said:System is back up and running!
Now not to dick with it for a while. :lol
This advice is right, however I wouldn't say that you need a "crazy income" for the best of the best. It all depends on what you save for. Though whenever I think of the things I could have bought with the money I spent in computer parts...Zyzyxxz said: