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[chubigans]

I would kill to hear what Julian and crew have to say about all this. I'm sure it's absolutely crushing for everyone on the team. We've read plenty of comments from folks like Ken Levine in regards to the amazing quality of Irrational's latest, for example, but I'd love to hear from someone who has essentially failed in the eyes of most.

I dunno, this just doesn't seem like your typical bad game. There seems to have been a lot of love put into it and everyone seemed so very excited.

It really all depends on the sales...if it meets it's target, they'll still be happy. Julian did say he "expected" the bad reviews simply because motion control is a new experience, etc. But if anything this'll make them try even harder next time...it's not like they're gonna give up making games.

 

[jmd494]

After finally starting to get used to the motion controls...I was about to move my score up to about a 7...but the damn TXH splash screen takes the score right back down to a 6. :lol What a pain in the ass.

Just joking of course

 

[chubigans]

After finally starting to get used to the motion controls...I was about to move my score up to about a 7...but the damn TXH splash screen takes the score right back down to a 6. :lol What a pain in the ass.

Just joking of course

They're hiding the loading of the game, but I would rather look at a loading screen than watch that damn video every single time! :lol

 

[Core407]

Put a demo on PSN!

 

[SpokkX]

I would also like a demo. All the controversy has made me really want to try the game at least

 

[Wollan]

Edit: Whoops, wrong thread.

 

[JdFoX187]

Controversy?

Eric was right:

Hopefully, Lair turns out to be a financial success.

 

[RobertM]

Controversy?

The bad scores, even though it looks good.

 

[Orobi]

Alright, two more videos uploaded! Here's the sea serpent battle (the colors are weird on Youtube for some reason):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YMyzJRwpsIU

And one of my other favorites, a bombing run over a mountain town:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PW6Me3BiZCU

That's all I'll upload since anything past that is getting into spoiler territory. So far it's a solid game, and I'm liking it quite a bit.

Wow at first video!
Wow wow at second!
Impressive graphic!

 

[Wollan]

The bad scores, even though it looks good.

Sorry, I thought I was in the Warhawk thread.

 

[Drinky Crow]

there was plenty of love put into the game -- into the procedural terrain algorithms, lod management system, and the many various brushes and effects. well, and the soundtrack, which is indeed stellar, as is the dynamic music.

trouble is, f5 didn't seem to put any love into the art direction, gameplay, or the proper application of their tech. they're still scene coders at heart, because the game design and mechanics are not only utterly derivative, their completely amateurish. the whole game is a case of "look what we can do, other developers!" and it is indeed impressive to folks with a dev background. to everyone else, it's a muddy, janky, unplayable mess.

 

[Ceb]

trouble is, f5 didn't seem to put any love into the art direction

:chescousincry

 

[Y2Kev]

:che'scousincry

:lol

I think the art direction isn't necessarily bad, it just is pretty opposed to the game's design...

"Find this tiny brown hut mixed in with all the undulating brown feces."

 

[SSM25]

mmm...after watching those youtube videos I'm liking the game again.......DAMN!!.....

 

[Nightz]

I was reading the official PS forums, and some people are claiming that you can play remotely on your PSP. Can anyone here try it and confirm if it really works?

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=lair&thread.id=7613

 

[Belfast]

I was reading the official PS forums, and some people are claiming that you can play remotely on your PSP. Can anyone here try it and confirm if it really works?

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=lair&thread.id=7613

That's pretty awesome. If I knew where my PSP was right now, I'd be more than willing to give it a shot!

 

[$1148 Jack]

WHAT?

That doesn't sound...

 

[belvedere]

I just tried it, OMFG it fucking works!

It errored out when launching it the first time so I quit out and re-launched then the game started from the THX intro.

Details to come.

 

[tahrikmili]

I was reading the official PS forums, and some people are claiming that you can play remotely on your PSP. Can anyone here try it and confirm if it really works?

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=lair&thread.id=7613

PSP has motion controls?

 

[Nightz]

PSP has motion controls?

No, but apparently you can play with analog sticks if you use a non-SIXAXIS controller.

 

[SolidSnakex]

PSP has motion controls?

If you'd click the link you'd see he claims you steer the dragon with the analog nub.

 

[$1148 Jack]

WOW, this is a huge development. Other possibilities....

*head explodes*

 

[$1148 Jack]

can someone try warhawk, cos if that works :lol

 

[Rugasuki]

Remote play is a very interesting feature. Would be great to access your library of PSN games anywhere. Makes me wish the new PSP model got bumped up to a 54g wireless chip instead of 802.11b.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

Of course this works for the one game you really wouldn't want to play anywhere.

If it worked for Motorstorm, that would be awesome.

 

[belvedere]

You can use the FUCKING joystick! It works!

Do you know what this means?

I'm doing this locally (ad-hoc) someone needs to try this without being on the same LAN.

 

[$1148 Jack]

Can someone make a new thread about this? Wider ramifications and all that.

Edit: yes maybe it is jumping the gun if this only works on a LAN.

 

[Oneself]

What?What!?What!? I need to try this.

 

[$1148 Jack]

It mustn't have been intended. From the official boards:

Well, that is crazy...it does work. The only thing, it doesn't have a R2 or L2 button so you can't land. You also can't do any smash side manuevers so you lose in combat with that. Other than that, man, it is CRAZY to play this game remotely on the PSP. If they can make more games with this functionality and an edited control scheme for the PSP, well, then... just .... ya.

 

[belvedere]

Pics

Sorry for the quality I was urinating myself at the thought of all this.

 

[Saterium]

Wow what the hell? That's a neat feature.. you'd figure they'd at least mention it

*EDIT* When I tried it over the internet I got a "Connection has timed out" message. Might just be local

 

[Orobi]

Pics

Sorry for the quality I was urinating myself at the thought all this.

:O

So, u can use an USB pad to move dragon and you can play on stream on PSP.
But why no mags, devsm site or pr said us that?

 

[Oneself]

It must look insanely good on a PSP screen!

 

[Ranger X]

Holy shit.

So can i play Lair with a PS2 controller too maybe?

 

[Norml]

Wow it does work, kept getting a timed out then it worked

Awesome feature!

 

[belvedere]

This deserves it's own thread.

Why this hasn't been mentioned by F5, Sony or the video game press is very odd.

 

[Saterium]

Has anyone figured out how to do a 180 turn, or a speed up on the PSP? I've tried all the buttons =(

It seems to slow down a bit occasionally, but it's neat nonetheless

*EDIT* or stopping mid air..

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

:O

So, u can use an USB pad to move dragon and you can play on stream on PSP.
But why no mags, devsm site or pr said us that?

Probably because they're undocumented features that don't entirely work past a novelty. The mags likely didn't know about it, and the devs/pr probably wouldn't go out of their way to mention a half-implemented feature.

 

[belvedere]

Has anyone figured out how to do a 180 turn, or a speed up on the PSP? I've tried all the buttons =(

It seems to slow down a bit occasionally, but it's neat nonetheless

I did a dash but have no idea how.

I'll keep messing with it.

 

[Community Forum]

ZOMG!

I can't believe I'm playing Lair on my PSP.

Bizarro.

 

[Belfast]

Probably because they're undocumented features that don't entirely work past a novelty. The mags likely didn't know about it, and the devs/pr probably wouldn't go out of their way to mention a half-implemented feature.

It is certainly very cool, but yeah, since there are control issues, I doubt it was meant to be anything more than a test. More devs need to be considering this, though! Streaming media content is one thing, but streaming games onto the PSP is tons more exciting to consider.

OT: Anyone else getting that Gods of Time banner ad? Good lord, Square-Enix needs to sue! :lol

 

[iceatcs]

Wow, looking forward to see how well with PSP screen.
Weird why the reviews never say about this feature. Lame!

 

[OverHeat]

whats the best communacation settings to play???

 

[Saterium]

It's neat but it's pretty broken, I couldnt beat the general in the first level because you can't do the side-to-side thing properly..

Funny that it's in there, it shows that the whole remote play thing has alot of potential =P

 

[SolidSnakex]

It is certainly very cool, but yeah, since there are control issues, I doubt it was meant to be anything more than a test. More devs need to be considering this, though! Streaming media content is one thing, but streaming games onto the PSP is tons more exciting to consider.

This is something along the lines of what Kojima talked about wanting to do with MGS4, where MKII's view would be transferred to the PSP screen.

 

[Oneself]

So that means... with the PSP slim, we'll be able to output Lair on a TV!!!

M3GAT0N!!!1!11!

 

[chubigans]

The game plays well and looks great on Remote Play! Holy crap!

I'm off to try more games.

 

[Clipjoint]

Uhh...this is kinda big news, right?

 

[iceatcs]

So that means... with the PSP slim, we'll be able to output Lair on a TV!!!

M3GAT0N!!!1!11!

Even better, You can play some PS3 games in your hotel tv with no need bring PS3 with you.

They should make a special Dualshock controller on the psp use mini USB.

 

[chubigans]

No other games work at the moment, just Lair. That is, all games on the HDD. Maybe it has to do with the fact that it's on a BD? Dunno.