Official LAIR thread
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Valkyr Junkie
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Analog controls won't do anything for this game. While not as precise as the motion control in Warhawk, it's the least of the games problems IMO.
You can't. End of story.
arcader said:
You can't. End of story.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I swear to fucking god if you are bashing Panzer Dragoon to make this game look better I am going to shove a pair of Samba De Amigo maracas so far up your ass you'll be coughing beads for weeksarcader said:
Psychotext
Member
:lol :lol :lolSegata Sanshiro said:
SSM25 said:
I played it at E3 2006, the motion control sucked. I played it again at TGS 2006, and the motion control sucked, again... So, I'm not having much fantasy about this whole motion control business which seems more gimmicky than WiiMote (at least, Metroid Prime 3 control rocks the house).
Anyway, I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because Osama people out there in our nation don't have maps, and I believe that our education like, such as S. Africa and the Iraq, everywhere like such as and I believe that they should...our education over here in the US should help the US, er should help S. Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future
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SSM25 said:
Well, I do have a problem with motion sensing in Motorstorm.. and I don't with Lair. Normally it's not a problem for me with games like Flow or even Rub a Dub so... I guess you won't see the supposed control issues. Just don't expect a flawless game, it's still a 7-8/10 in my book.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
itsme said:
What?
darkressurection
Banned
All right, I am thinking about picking this up. I just want to know, how long is the game?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
When people have good enough taste that frigging Drakken doesn't outsell PDO. Whoops, too late.arcader said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Some people have really, really, really bad taste in games.Wollan said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I'm pretty much just comparing them as games centred around dragons.arcader said:
It's what Miss Teen South Carolina said to answer the question of "why 20 percent of Americans can't find US from the globe?". You can find plenty of movies of her on Youtube; I heard she was 3rd runner-up with that answer, go figure. I was trying to be funny but I failed, I guess.Crayon Shinchan said:
For reference.itsme said:
mentalfloss
Banned
GhaleonEB said:
holy fuck
:lol :lol :lol
JGBtypeR
Member
My main problem with the game does lie with the controls, but basically one aspect...
WHY CAN'T I GET THIS DAMN THING TO FLIP AROUND!!!
Other than that I actually kind of like them, but whenever I do my upward flip motion my dragon never flips, it just ends up speed bursting as I'm flailing about madly. If I could have a button to do that, that'd solve all my problems.
WHY CAN'T I GET THIS DAMN THING TO FLIP AROUND!!!
Other than that I actually kind of like them, but whenever I do my upward flip motion my dragon never flips, it just ends up speed bursting as I'm flailing about madly. If I could have a button to do that, that'd solve all my problems.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
So I just got to the boss fight where the sea worm thing is attacking all of my mantas. It is gorgeous, there is just one problem. When I beat him down, and my sidekick tells me to 'go in for the kill', and 'go for his eye' the camera switches to where I am face to face with the sea worm, and the game tells me to dodge left, and I try to dodge left, and my dragon just sits there and gets swallowed. I've tried everything from real delicate movements, to flailing around like a dipshit... all to no avail. It seems as though the sixaxis stops working for me every time I get to this exact moment...
Is this happening because I am a junior member on GAF?
Does God hate me?
If the answer to either of those questions is yes... well, pisspants and shitballs. If not, and I'm just doing something wrong, please let me know.
Psychotext
Member
The answer to both of those questions is clearly yes.Captain Pants said:
But you could be doing something wrong too... sadly I can't help you on that one. :lol
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Psychotext said:
:lol
It hadn't occurred to me that both of those things could be true, and I could still be screwing up... pisser.
arcader said:
You don't think thrust vectoring would automatically make Lair more awesome?
Sarcasm asaide, what's wrong with HUDs? God knows some kind of indicators or messages on screen to make it less confusing instantly makes fun x10. The hell does players get out of doing "whatever" he wants without sufficient feedback of results.
hear ye, factor 5 or sony or whoever: patch lair to be fully playable with non-waggle controls -- through some undocumented 'plug in a generic usb pad' workaround, if need be -- and i swear i'll buy the damned thing. for full price even. i'm curious about lair, but i read about people's frustrations with the motion controls, and it's like i'm experiencing them myself, in advance. motion controls and i don't get along. i can't even stand them in games where other people seem to like them, never mind lair.
tehbear said:You don't think thrust vectoring would automatically make Lair more awesome?
Sarcasm asaide, what's wrong with HUDs? God knows some kind of indicators or messages on screen to make it less confusing instantly makes fun x10. The hell does players get out of doing "whatever" he wants without sufficient feedback of results.
wouldn't be realistic? It's a dragon not an F16
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
Tideas said:
Um...lol. Oh GAF.
Okay, I played the training portion and the 1st mission in this game... let's just say I"m glad it was only a rental. I was fighting with the controls every step of the way and having to hit a button to even get any idea of what your supposed to shoot or more importantly get a succesfull hit seems really counter intuitive. An analog control option would help the game marginally but it still has the problem present in every factor 5 game I've played. These guys spend so much damn time making sure a game looks and sounds really good that they forget that people have to actually at some point play it and enjoy it.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
A strategy that has worked magnificently for the Getaway games.Tideas said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yeah, I have to say after renting it today and playing it (I'm on mission #10 where I have to save some guy from the prison in some Ice Land), analog stick controls really wouldn't help this game be much better. They would maybe make some QTEs more enjoyable, but that's a tiny portion of gameplay, that it wouldn't really matter much at all.
It's an average game through and through, but controls really are not much of a problem. Problem is the overall confusion the game presents that simply makes it less enjoyable than it should be, weak story, weak cinematics, unintuitive QTEs, and somewhat unimaginative missions. Still, despite all that, the game has kept me playing non-stop until I reached this mission 10, which is more than I can say for some games that scored much, much higher than this did. There's something about it that keeps you playing, be it that it's really pretty big novelty as it looks and sounds as good as it does, while it controls in a way it does, be it that missions are not too tough and still varied enough to keep you entertained.
As it's been said many times before, sound is the best part of the game, music especially is really quite amazing. Visuals are impressive for the most part, art direction is somewhat uninspired overall, there are some visual glitches at times, but technically it stacks up favorably against anything of it's kind. Everything looks very sharp no matter how close you get to things, there's huge amounts of stuff going on at all times, animation during gameplay is impressive overall but has some notable downs as well.
I have to say I really don't understand all these sub 5.0 scores. The game is unquestionably better than that, and now I almost think that some of these reviewers came across as a bit of jackasses who probably wanted to "show F5 for their insolence" and maybe for gameplay rehashing (never played their other games, but from descriptions, a lot of gameplay ideas are lifted from their Star Wars games).
In any case, I'm glad I've rented it, as I would regret purchasing it (it is pretty average after all, I'd score it 7.0 at most, so far), but I'd also regret not playing it at all as it is unique despite all it's flaws.
It's an average game through and through, but controls really are not much of a problem. Problem is the overall confusion the game presents that simply makes it less enjoyable than it should be, weak story, weak cinematics, unintuitive QTEs, and somewhat unimaginative missions. Still, despite all that, the game has kept me playing non-stop until I reached this mission 10, which is more than I can say for some games that scored much, much higher than this did. There's something about it that keeps you playing, be it that it's really pretty big novelty as it looks and sounds as good as it does, while it controls in a way it does, be it that missions are not too tough and still varied enough to keep you entertained.
As it's been said many times before, sound is the best part of the game, music especially is really quite amazing. Visuals are impressive for the most part, art direction is somewhat uninspired overall, there are some visual glitches at times, but technically it stacks up favorably against anything of it's kind. Everything looks very sharp no matter how close you get to things, there's huge amounts of stuff going on at all times, animation during gameplay is impressive overall but has some notable downs as well.
I have to say I really don't understand all these sub 5.0 scores. The game is unquestionably better than that, and now I almost think that some of these reviewers came across as a bit of jackasses who probably wanted to "show F5 for their insolence" and maybe for gameplay rehashing (never played their other games, but from descriptions, a lot of gameplay ideas are lifted from their Star Wars games).
In any case, I'm glad I've rented it, as I would regret purchasing it (it is pretty average after all, I'd score it 7.0 at most, so far), but I'd also regret not playing it at all as it is unique despite all it's flaws.
Tideas said:
Absolutely, there are alot of misconceptions about Dragons.For example, I bet you didn't know they are Nocturnal, so if you see one during the day stay away, it MIGHT have rabies, also while aggressive towards humans(the whole breathing fire thing) they can be surprisingly tender to their offspring.
darkressurection
Banned
I posted this a while back but it got lost.
How long is the game?
How long is the game?
I bought and enjoyed both. Besides they were on completely separate platforms, so it'd be more accurate to bitch about the taste of Xbox owners who bought whatever else was out at the same time - I think the honor goes to DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball, no?Segata Sanshiro said:
Flesh Into Gear
Member
haha wow I remember Drakken.
I though that game was forgotten forever
I though that game was forgotten forever
Marconelly said:
Well, I consider 5 average...so your 7.0 means it's a good game.
5=average
6=above average
7=good
8=great
9=excellent
10=perfection
But I can understand why you are giving it a 7...I suppose you are giving it a 7 because due to the manner in which most mags hands out scores...7 is currently the score given to average games, am I right?