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Official Madden '10 Xbox 360 Online Franchise: A World Without Favre
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Mrbob said:Sorry.
YOU FUCKING SHOULD BE!
I QUIT
Lonestar said:Goddammitt...
They didn't put any arby sauce in the bag. Sauceless Roast Beef Sandwhich!!!!!
And this is what the thread has devolved into. Bravo sir. Bravo.
p.s. Bob, today is end of month, I can't play tonight unfortunately. But I should be around tomorrow evening.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Of course I am the one that gets lashed out at when at that point I was just addressing the running up the score thing in general, nothing for Lonestar or Matrix who started addressing your game in the first place.Rorschach said:
I don't think I have to defend my game against LW as he already did. As far as the FGs at the end I was within the 35 yard line and seriously did not know what to do. I didn't want to insult the guy with a punt or a kneel on fourth so I just kicked the FG. Now that he addressed it it's what I will do when I am in a similar position. What I said during the game is that I wish I could offer a friendly quit not throttle it back, I was already just grinding the clock down.
You're really jumping down the wrong guy's throat on this one. I know you, Fifty and DM think I am a jackass for some of my opinions but I have been a good sportsman the whole time, I respect And have tried to help everyone, and contrary to what you may think I do not attack someone passively. If I had a problem with you I'd tell you upfront like I have everyone else.
Please also remember that I took a monster asswhooping from you in the tournament the likes of which I never have and did not complain afterwards that you run up the score, as I was unable to get a stop on D. I think you scored 50+ in that game. (Cant check, I am at jury duty)
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
"Matrix who started addressing your game in the first place. "
Ehhh I have no issues wih Rors or his game style. I was just responding to Lonestar's issues with the score. I said I had no clue what went down with BJ and Rors and even blamed BJ for his style of play leading to these high scoring blow outs.
Ehhh I have no issues wih Rors or his game style. I was just responding to Lonestar's issues with the score. I said I had no clue what went down with BJ and Rors and even blamed BJ for his style of play leading to these high scoring blow outs.
I didn't want you to "defend" your game. I was saying that your game was prime example of that. The fact that there was a defense for it proves my point. You and Livewire know what happened and everyone outside would just be guessing and making assumptions. The only ones that knew exactly what happened would be you and Livewire. Me pointing out the scores would just be doing so OUT OF CONTEXT. And I agree with you on the FGs, but obviously Livewire doesn't as he said he preferred a knee or punts. I would be greatly insulted if someone did that against me with tons of time left on the clock and FMT kinda chewed me out once when I could have easily scored multiple times on him and just took knees instead because it was a slap in the face. So, what's that mean? That you have to know who your opponent is. But what does that matter when people are dogging you from the outside anyway?Wellington said:
[edit] Oh, and I don't think anyone is a jackass for having an opinion. You always have this insecure, everyone's out to get me mentality and you make posts like "the commishes don't like me" or "you guys think I'm a jackass" or whatever. I always respond to you on AIM with how I feel, but I'm not going to quote you every time you say something like that to massage your ego. Just keep "Oh, no Wellington, you're an asset to the league and we appreciate your participation" on notepad and bring it up any time you get the urge. I mean it sincerely even if I can't speak for everyone.
CB3 said:
But isn' that the very definition of running the score up, since the score will have no impact on the outcome of the game? Not only that, but you are also making the game last even longer for yourself by scoring again, since the opposing offense is probably going to continue passing the ball when you could have just killed some clock.
If someone is down big in the 4th qtr, why shouldn't they continue to work both the running and passing game, so they can try to get better against someone who is obviously better than them (at least during that game)? Sure, it's on them if they throw a pick, but that doesn't mean you have to rub it in even more by running it back.
Just to be clear...I'm not attacking you. I'm just asking a question.
If someone doesn't mind getting blown out, then I guess it's alright to do so. Can we get a Rule #2 change then, just scratch out the " there's no reason to run up the score on people" part, because it's now on a case-by-case basis. How about a list of each person's parameters, because it's too confusing, with it's conflicting nature of "is it or isn't it" a blowout?
I'm ok with running back an INT for a TD. It happens, and is the leading cause of these blowouts. I am ok with the opponent milking the playclock to get the game over with (because hey, that's Sim). In the rare instance I'm protecting a lead late in the game, I will attempt to milk the clock. I have even knelt out/punted while in the redzone with a few minutes left.
I would love to get a 44-7 game, where it's easy sailing, but I've somehow developed a overall gameplan, of perpetual 24-21 games. Games down to the wire, that are hard fought. Win Some, Lose some. I figured that was where most of the fun of the league was supposed to be from.
I'm ok with running back an INT for a TD. It happens, and is the leading cause of these blowouts. I am ok with the opponent milking the playclock to get the game over with (because hey, that's Sim). In the rare instance I'm protecting a lead late in the game, I will attempt to milk the clock. I have even knelt out/punted while in the redzone with a few minutes left.
I would love to get a 44-7 game, where it's easy sailing, but I've somehow developed a overall gameplan, of perpetual 24-21 games. Games down to the wire, that are hard fought. Win Some, Lose some. I figured that was where most of the fun of the league was supposed to be from.
If an opponent is up big and they're running the ball to get the game over with but still do jukes and spins and trucks, that's still padding your stats / running up the score in my opinion. If you're really trying to run out the clock and end the game, just run it up the gut. It's quite simple.
EDIT: Just to clarify, only when the opponent is close to scoring again (redzone).
EDIT: Just to clarify, only when the opponent is close to scoring again (redzone).
I don't think it is too tough to make a proper judgment call depending on the flow of the game.
If you are up by 14 in the red zone with under 2 min left. You run the ball to end the game, and your opponent calls TOs kick the FG.
If you are running and the opponent isn't calling a TO just let the game end. Pretty simple.
If you are up by 14 in the red zone with under 2 min left. You run the ball to end the game, and your opponent calls TOs kick the FG.
If you are running and the opponent isn't calling a TO just let the game end. Pretty simple.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
I just want to make it be known if I ever play Bob in a league game and I'm up big somehow I will stat pad and run up the score as much as I can. I don't care if it's a fluke game. I know the odds wouldn't be in my favor to do this, but again let me repeat myself...
If I'm ever up big against Bob I will not let up. I will make him shit Battle Red.
Bob knows why I'm typing this or should know why.
If I'm ever up big against Bob I will not let up. I will make him shit Battle Red.
Bob knows why I'm typing this or should know why.
Because I've noticed in this situation when I'm clearly trying to run the clock and they keep passing. I'm hoping a pick-6 will put more emphasis on you to stop passing. Or atleast run more. also if I'm down big and I throw a pick, I would rather have it taken back. Don't dive. That's more of a slap in my face. Its like pitying me. I don't want that and I don't want my opponents to feel that. Atleast on defense, I'm giving you everything I got for the whole game.Birdman02 said:
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Smokey said:
It's only because of all his cpu bs talk.
I have beat Bob in the past, back when I had Carr :lol He beat me really bad though in a playoff game. I think he shut me out cause the Bears D was insane and of course he TE cheesed me all game.
edit- yea that was the game
"I'll throw it 50 times to Olsen if need be to win!"
Figures :lol
CB3 said:
Wait, you don't want your opponents to feel like you're pitying them by running up the gut and eating clock, but you don't want them to try and fight their way back into the game by passing (which is realistically the only way to make a comeback of 28+ points) so you'll run up the score and rubbing it in, making them feel even worse? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Running up the gut and burning clock isn't pitying someone when they're down 28+ points. It's just helping to get the game over with. If they pass and manage to score once or twice and are a threat you can begin dominating again. If they pass INTs down 28+, just down it or run out of bounds, and begin your next drive with more clock-killing runs, it's not rocket science.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
even if pheeniks got the heat, he still wouldn't pass the first round.Mrbob said:
sorry, i just sensed the word "nba" somewhere and it lead me back here.
I had a shot to blow out Bob. I should have went to the TE more.
Or Run the ball.
Or kick a good field goal
Or watch more Cheers. I was Cheer-pleted, and it hurt my chances of victory.
I had been watching Doctor Who, and it doesn't seem to give me that special "Umph" when it comes to achieving football victory. I'm thinking of switching it up to Knots Landing.
Or Run the ball.
Or kick a good field goal
Or watch more Cheers. I was Cheer-pleted, and it hurt my chances of victory.
I had been watching Doctor Who, and it doesn't seem to give me that special "Umph" when it comes to achieving football victory. I'm thinking of switching it up to Knots Landing.
It makes perfect sense. I fully control my offense. Rules and people keep me from running my offense normally. So ill run it for the most part and punt if I dpnt get the first. But if I'm on D and you throw it to me, and I have a clear lane, I'm taking it in. I don't control someone else making bad decisions with the ball. And it happens in real life. No matter the score if the qb makes a throw that will result in a pick 6, the defender doesn't just dive to the floor.
I'm competing the whole game man. Besides what the rules limit me. I don't expect anyone to let up on me in a blowout. if I make a bad throw in a blow out, that's my bad. Dagger me and put it in the endzone. End of story
I'm competing the whole game man. Besides what the rules limit me. I don't expect anyone to let up on me in a blowout. if I make a bad throw in a blow out, that's my bad. Dagger me and put it in the endzone. End of story
Good game BigAT, I just didn't have much on O today. Couldn't really move the ball. Shitty playcalling, shitty reads, and good D on your part. After that Lynch TD, I thought it would swing moment my way, but you got the same break I did on the next series (Pro Tak).
The WR screen was the dagger, I've looked at the replay twice and McGee goes straight for the OL. So much for being the force defender. Good running too, especially between the tackles.
I'm not sure how you got some of those passes off, but you did a good job. I probably hit Rodgers three out of every four drop backs.
The WR screen was the dagger, I've looked at the replay twice and McGee goes straight for the OL. So much for being the force defender. Good running too, especially between the tackles.
I'm not sure how you got some of those passes off, but you did a good job. I probably hit Rodgers three out of every four drop backs.
CB3 said:
Bullshit, there have been plenty of times in the NFL after a pick where a defender has just run the ball out of bounds.
And you say you're OK with it, I believe that's only because you haven't had to deal with it that often.
Anyway, it appears the argument has run its course and nothing will change, so I suggest that all of us "dirty console peasants" run up the score against the "glorious master PC race" (DM, FMT, Rors, CB, LJ, Smokey) if we are ever in the position to do so.
sableholic
Member
ok I'm seriously confused about the ints for td stuff. FMT were you insulted when i dove and tried to run out more of the clock when I got that last int that would have been a easy TD? I felt like at the time it was the right thing to do, but questioned my decision afterwards.
I know you said you would have been fine with me running it back and actually it seems like most people are saying running it back is fine, in which case I will attempt to run back every single int I get from now on.
I know I've seen it happen numerous times, which is why my initial instinct is to just dive down. But then again this type of stuff also had conflicting opinions when for example mjd knelt down instead of scoring a td. There are people (coaches, ex-coaches, players, etc) who say you always take the guaranteed points. It's hard for me to decide which is right.
I know you said you would have been fine with me running it back and actually it seems like most people are saying running it back is fine, in which case I will attempt to run back every single int I get from now on.
LiveWire said:
I know I've seen it happen numerous times, which is why my initial instinct is to just dive down. But then again this type of stuff also had conflicting opinions when for example mjd knelt down instead of scoring a td. There are people (coaches, ex-coaches, players, etc) who say you always take the guaranteed points. It's hard for me to decide which is right.
dude if you guys are seriously THAT annoyed to the point where you are against someone returning your INT for a TD, then just message your opponent "you finish vs. the CPU" and then you leave the game while the other guy has the option to finish vs. the CPU. I've done this in a few of my blowouts (*cough LJ) and my opponents have graciously said yes.
by the way, if i'm ever blowing someone out and they throw a pick 6, no way in hell am i going to dive or whatever shit. i'm with CB on this one
by the way, if i'm ever blowing someone out and they throw a pick 6, no way in hell am i going to dive or whatever shit. i'm with CB on this one
sableholic said:
MJD is a different situation because it was a close game (2 point difference IIRC?) that they wanted to close out with NO chance of a comeback by trying for a FG. That's apples-and-oranges compared to diving instead of taking a TAINT when you're up 52-10 with a minute to go in the 4th.
I've dealt with it. Up until recently I spent many leagues getting dominated by ck and Shawn. Especially Shawn. As I said just last season he got 6 picks in one game on me. And he won by a ton of points. More power to him. I got beat and took it. He is a competitor and so am I.
And this is not just Madden. I've been dominated and been on the other side also in 2k. This is nothing new to me.
And this is not just Madden. I've been dominated and been on the other side also in 2k. This is nothing new to me.
sableholic
Member
LiveWire said:
true true, it was just a example of how its not just us that is torn by the kneeling down thing. I've heard announcers/coaches say you take the guaranteed pts. mjd they called stupid because they ended up kicking the fg to win it, but say the fg gets blocked or something like that, then you don't get the td and lost. I'm just trying to figure out what the thoughts are on this situation. Like I said my original instinct is to dive if its not close, i'm just trying to figure out what the league thinks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4clCrx3M22I#t=4m26s
Watch this video around the 4:28 mark. Baltimore still has 3 timeouts, and Brackett intercepts it and drops to the ground instead of running it back. He could easily have ran to the left for a pick six. Taking knees after picks does happen in the NFL. And this was even in a close game! There's just no excuse for running it back when you're up as much as some of these teams are so late in the game. No NFL team does that.
Watch this video around the 4:28 mark. Baltimore still has 3 timeouts, and Brackett intercepts it and drops to the ground instead of running it back. He could easily have ran to the left for a pick six. Taking knees after picks does happen in the NFL. And this was even in a close game! There's just no excuse for running it back when you're up as much as some of these teams are so late in the game. No NFL team does that.
LJ11 said:
GG.
I have to say I had a bit of a smile on my face after Grant broke that ridiculous nonsense of a touchdown run following Lynch's similar run just a play or two earlier.
It's been said before but I might as well echo it, you're ridiculous with your rookie DT and your defensive line in general. Your line generates crazy pressure on nearly every down, even when it's just the front four rushing. I felt like I would drop back and immediately get popped. There were definitely a few that even I thought should have been sacks, but Rodgers managed to barely get them away.
I almost lost my mind after Bigby fumbled and lost that ball after he intercepted it, especially since I'm pretty sure I was pressing for him to protect the ball. That could have potentially been a huge difference maker.
bluemax I might be able to play tonight before I head out if you happen to be around. if not saturday night or sunday works. add me on live: astrothelad (can't find your name b/c the ea site is down).
Since both of our games have come down to the last play, running up the score is a moot point; there's no dilemma!
Since both of our games have come down to the last play, running up the score is a moot point; there's no dilemma!
Yeah, DM doesn't play the type of ball to blow out anyone, or be blown out. Ball Control, and contest everything on defense.
I might have to switch back to the Miami playbook, for the Wildcat. I've got players to run out of it, better than straight up running...
I might have to switch back to the Miami playbook, for the Wildcat. I've got players to run out of it, better than straight up running...