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Official Madden '10 Xbox 360 Online Franchise: A World Without Favre

PBY

Banned
Fifty said:
I'm pretty sure that no matter how liberal we are in terms of trading, we're not allowing people to make a trade for a guy and then immediately trade him. It has to be done next season. That sucks for you since you now have Joker and MJD, but I think those are the rules.
didnt know that- that works fine though, since Joker isn't mine- I can definitely work with two solid backs
 

Nightz

Member
GG Live. Sorry for taking that pick back for a TD, but I couldn't pass up a chance for a 100 yard return. You're tough to run on man. D-Bro would have been under 50 yards if he hadn't busted that 90 yarder.

Oh, and <3 Chris Simms. Palmer goes out for one play, Simms steps in and throws a 44 yard TD to Ocho. :lol
 

TheCrow

Member
Fifty said:
I'm pretty sure that no matter how liberal we are in terms of trading, we're not allowing people to make a trade for a guy and then immediately trade him. It has to be done next season. That sucks for you since you now have Joker and MJD, but I think those are the rules.

The Joker belongs to me. :D
 

LukeSmith

Member
Fifty said:
I'm pretty sure that no matter how liberal we are in terms of trading, we're not allowing people to make a trade for a guy and then immediately trade him. It has to be done next season. That sucks for you since you now have Joker and MJD, but I think those are the rules.

Someone from the shadow council should weigh in on this, I don't want Peterboy to feel like he's getting screwed if he can't move a guy. I imagine Striker would try and make a deal for Okoye if this gets shut down. The call is outside of my world
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Rorschach said:
Man, AJ is so strong.

with hands of putty.

Honestly, did he drop a pass at all?
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wait, why is MJD and reggie wayne on the chiefs? did that trade get approved and i didn't know about it?

Wasn't approved by the secret 9th member that's for sure.
 

bluemax

Banned
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wtf at these scores! i designate week 1 the "No Defense" week!

Too many offensive playmakers in each draft, not enough talented LBers + the decline of all existing LBers it seems like.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Time to call a JLA meeting.
 

Fifty

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wait, why is MJD and reggie wayne on the chiefs? did that trade get approved and i didn't know about it?

Yes. You were offline and DM was playing 2K. Not that it has really 'happened' yet since no games have been played with the players in question, but I said it was OK to Peterboy. CB agreed it was fine, and Rors wasn't openly against it.

I didn't feel like tracking down more people to discuss a trade in which luke gets obviously weaker and the player with the worst record in the league gets an influx of talent. Anyway, since no games have been played with those guys, a cabal can convene and whatever else needs to happen can happen. I'm sick of dealing with trades. I need a salary or as far as I care, FMT can do everything by himself.
 

LiveWire

Member
Nightz said:
GG Live. Sorry for taking that pick back for a TD, but I couldn't pass up a chance for a 100 yard return. You're tough to run on man. D-Bro would have been under 50 yards if he hadn't busted that 90 yarder.

Oh, and <3 Chris Simms. Palmer goes out for one play, Simms steps in and throws a 44 yard TD to Ocho. :lol

No worries! :D Bethea blended in with the referee. I even had enough time on that throw to look and I was like, OK, that's just a ref, right? Hmmm....still have time....is that a ref or the safety? OK, it's a ref....*throws* Bethea a.k.a. Reptile uncloaks for the pick. :lol

I was happy that, without Haynesworth, my new run D was still able to get men to the ball carrier quickly. I wasn't quite used to the new angles of penetration though. And of course I'm still hit-stick happy. My offense was pretty much the same, but your run D was able to get through the line to Portis. Ford is a beast.

Hope you weren't pissed at the fake FG, but I had to get some momentum started and Colt's got a very high play-action and throw on the run rating. Even still your safety almost got the tackle!
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
don't worry about high scores, cards d and matt leinart will happily conspire to provide a season full of 17-10 losses.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I was looking at the Jets ratings and I can't believe Dirty Sanchez is rated 90 :( Looks like my new D will have a real test tomorrow and I usually flunk on my first try.
 
Fifty said:
Yes. You were offline and DM was playing 2K. Not that it has really 'happened' yet since no games have been played with the players in question, but I said it was OK to Peterboy. CB agreed it was fine, and Rors wasn't openly against it.

I didn't feel like tracking down more people to discuss a trade in which luke gets obviously weaker and the player with the worst record in the league gets an influx of talent. Anyway, since no games have been played with those guys, a cabal can convene and whatever else needs to happen can happen. I'm sick of dealing with trades. I need a salary or as far as I care, FMT can do everything by himself.

well it would be just me approving trades but since i have been accused of not being fair in the trades i approved here we are!
 

Rorschach

Member
[edit] I didn't know I was voting on anything... I was just inquiring for ol' Peterboy.

That said, I don't think a top WR, top HB, a third, and a 2nd round pick is too little for a first. But that's just me!


Matrix said:
with hands of putty.

Honestly, did he drop a pass at all?
Nope. Murphy and DHB dropped a couple, but AJ is too beastly!
 

Nightz

Member
LiveWire said:
Hope you weren't pissed at the fake FG, but I had to get some momentum started and Colt's got a very high play-action and throw on the run rating. Even still your safety almost got the tackle!
Nah it's cool, it was a pretty clever play actually. That was actually my return man on defense since I came out in FG block return. :lol
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Rorschach said:
but AJ is too beastly!


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Rorschach

Member
Lonestar said:
Bellow's does that move all the time. It's a great feeling.

Your QB has a strange throwing motion. It seems similar, but I can't place it...












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:lol I was commenting on that. He holds it in one hand and low. It's fucking awesome and stylish.
 
bluemax said:
Man pheeknicks is konex 2.0, every pass is a roll out.

I guess some of it is from the pressure.

I just noticed this.

Do you really need to say shit like this? Or can I say things like "Bluemax throws to Lebron and take advantage of my slow MLB when he's in trouble" or "Bluemax likes to throw here and here when he has to because of his speed receivers etc." like it's some cheesy thing?

The fact that you say every play is a roll out is complete bullshit. That simply isn't true. Ask anyone who's ever played me and they know I play the game honestly. For fucks sake you were up big in the game and still complaining.

I have a quarterback that has good speed, has good throw power and throws accurately on the run. Forgive me if I've been 4-12, 5-11, 2-14, and that I'm trying to take advantages of the things that I do have.

But I guess when you do get beat by big plays its easy to bitch since you're consistently at the bottom of the standings with me. it's this kind of bitching that makes it hard to play in this league now. but i'm going with the smokey roll --- don't give a fuck what any of you think and I'm doing it my way
 

LiveWire

Member
Madden continues with the realistic scheduling:

Week 2 @ Cowboys
Week 3 LIONS
Week 4 GIANTS
Week 5 COWBOYS
Week 6 @ Giants
Week 7 EAGLES
Week 8 BYE
Week 9 @ Eagles

:lol
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
A couple of people were asking why I thought RG SanGiacomo, who was picked in the second round by Smokey, was a good pick even though he is rated 55 OVR. So far from all that I have seen there are only seven and *maybe* eight stats that are relevant for offensive linemen, regardless of their position. Here is what I think, in no particular order –

SPD – Important for Guards if you call a lot of screens and counters. If you call a lot of tosses then it can be a factor for Tackles as well. You need to make sure your blockers can get out in front of you, and the faster they do the faster you can follow them up-field

ACC – See SPD

IBL – The “pancake” rating. Basically if a guy can flatten the oncoming defender quickly and effectively, it’s essentially a 10 on 11 because the other guy is dead on the floor and your man is free to continue blocking.

RBS (Run Block Strength)/PBS (Pass Block Strength) – There’s two types of rushers in the NFL, bull rushers and speed/finesse rushers. In order to represent that EA created the PMV/FMV attributes for DL. D-Ends have (typically) higher FMV and DTs are usually higher in terms of PMV. The direct opposite of PMV is the RB/PB strength rating. With guards and centers, you will usually matchup against DTs so you want guys with high RBS/PBS more than anything so that they can stonewall the DTs. Think of it this way, it’s your boy getting down low and blowing the other motherfucker off the line of scrimmage.

RBF (Run Block Footwork)/PBF (Pass Block Footwork) – For finesse guys (DEs), high quality footwork is what you want to counter them. It’s the direct counter to FMV. You guys have seen Dwight Freeney in action right? Dude does a spin move past the tackle and is at the QB. The best I ever saw handle him was future HOFer Jonathan Ogden, kept his arms out, feet moving, and spun Freeney in place while staying in front of him. That’s the best way to envision the play between FMV and the footwork ratings.

AWR – I am *fairly* positive that AWR doesn’t mean shit for OL and I wanted to take a gamble with SanGiacomo and C Gregory Arthur, but someone took them before I had a chance. I took the #2 C in the season 1 draft and I thought he was the #1 OL in the whole draft, so far he has proven me right despite having 50 AWR (Yeah he allowed 2 sacks against user controlled Ratliffe last night, but AI has trouble with user controlled interior linemen).

So this freakin guy SanGiacomo:

55 OVR
46 SPD
37 ACC
23 AWR
57 IBL
91 RBS
79 RBF
92 PBS
80 PBF

I wanted to take him, plug him in at C and have my beast current C play LG. Smokey beat me to the punch unfortunately.

But in round 6 I did get this monster, Siemian

60 OVR
62 SPD
40 ACC
25 AWR
70 IBL
83 RBS
80 RBF
85 PBS
90 PBF

I can put him in on passing downs and not stress out if I want to.

You should look very closely at these stats for FBs and TEs as well. Even WRs on the outside.
 

Rorschach

Member
AWR rocks for when your QB fumbles. It's funny when they scoop up the ball and run with it too.

Anyway, I think AWR does matter a little bit, but not enough to choose it over any of those other stats.

[edit] We're waiting 'till Monday? :( Guess I'll avoid this thread for a while because I'm already jonesing for more Fitch2AJ.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
im away from my xbox till monday. Striker has modem problems that are trying to get fixed this afternoon,which is why we couldnt play last night.
 

Smokey

Member
Wellington said:
A couple of people were asking why I thought RG SanGiacomo, who was picked in the second round by Smokey, was a good pick even though he is rated 55 OVR.
So this freakin guy SanGiacomo:

55 OVR
46 SPD
37 ACC
23 AWR
57 IBL
91 RBS
79 RBF
92 PBS
80 PBF

I wanted to take him, plug him in at C and have my beast current C play LG. Smokey beat me to the punch unfortunately.

But in round 6 I did get this monster, Siemian

60 OVR
62 SPD
40 ACC
25 AWR
70 IBL
83 RBS
80 RBF
85 PBS
90 PBF

Looks like you did pretty good though finding that guy in the 6th round. In fact I'd say he's better than my guy (he is 60 vs 55..but lol at overall ratings).

Well I guess it kind of evens out. He has 70 IBL vs 57, but SanGiacomo has 91 RBS and 92 PBS vs 83 and 85.

So I'd say we both did pretty good though finding these "garbage" players:D
 

Striker

Member
CB3 said:
im away from my xbox till monday. Striker has modem problems that are trying to get fixed this afternoon,which is why we couldnt play last night.
Comcast guy is here now. Outside doing who knows what. :|
 

bluemax

Banned
ph33nix said:
I just noticed this.

Do you really need to say shit like this? Or can I say things like "Bluemax throws to Lebron and take advantage of my slow MLB when he's in trouble" or "Bluemax likes to throw here and here when he has to because of his speed receivers etc." like it's some cheesy thing?

The fact that you say every play is a roll out is complete bullshit. That simply isn't true. Ask anyone who's ever played me and they know I play the game honestly. For fucks sake you were up big in the game and still complaining.

I have a quarterback that has good speed, has good throw power and throws accurately on the run. Forgive me if I've been 4-12, 5-11, 2-14, and that I'm trying to take advantages of the things that I do have.

But I guess when you do get beat by big plays its easy to bitch since you're consistently at the bottom of the standings with me. it's this kind of bitching that makes it hard to play in this league now. but i'm going with the smokey roll --- don't give a fuck what any of you think and I'm doing it my way

Did I need to? Probably not. Calling you konex 2.0 was probably a little over stating it and some of it was just frustration on my part. If a guy moves to avoid the rush, that's fine, that's football and that is smart. If a guy takes off running as soon as the ball is snapped that's kind of annoying.

Either way it wasn't that big of a factor and I adjusted and got two sacks when your QB strafed right into my defensive end who was standing there waiting for him.

I'll try not to post critical evaluations of other players in the middle of the game from now on.

I wish I hadn't missed the last 3 rounds while biking home, I got absolute garbage players. Add to that that some stupid person called me to take a survey about my doctor causing me to mess up my 4th rounder and ugh. I had a bad draft after the first 2 rounds. Doing this while at work makes it hard to focus properly.
 

bluemax

Banned
AstroLad said:
is that a promise? can the scope be expanded?

I'm not a jedi. I only try to do better. I never promise anything I don't know I can do.

And no, the scope can not be extended. For now I am only going to attempt to reduce my posting in the heat of a game. Maybe if I get better at that I'll cut out the post game too.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Smokey said:
Looks like you did pretty good though finding that guy in the 6th round. In fact I'd say he's better than my guy (he is 60 vs 55..but lol at overall ratings).

Well I guess it kind of evens out. He has 70 IBL vs 57, but SanGiacomo has 91 RBS and 92 PBS vs 83 and 85.

So I'd say we both did pretty good though finding these "garbage" players:D
Yes but.... I got my guy in the sixth round, you got yours in the second. :D (Please don't add me to "the list." :((((()

I'm more happy that I got a couple of backup plans for Eli that are way better than Grossman. Needed an insurance plan because of the infusion of all the high POW guys in the league.

Also a couple of other notes:

In Michael Johnson's debut game for the Falcons he recorded two forced fumbles and five tackles. Not bad for a guy that no one wanted to even take off of my hands. Aside from SPD, he was better across the board than that safety the game had ranked as the #1 overall pick.

As I've been saying I'm away from Thursday the 18th to Monday the 22nd. Fifty, we will likely advance before Wednesday, but in the case that we don't, can you play Wednesday night? I'd already spoken to Rors about filling in for me if I can't play, but I'd much rather face you since I haven't played you in Madden 10, and you'd probably have an easier time against me than Rors with the most elite team in the franchise. DCX and I will play when I get back Monday.
 

Striker

Member
OK got this shit back.

I signed LJ, Corner, and Iwebema. I will drop LE Patterson for you, LJ.

EA's drafting is such shit. I was littered with four OT's that were 79+, and they drafted TWO of them for me. :lol ... and grabbed me two guards for happiness sake. Four fucking OL.
 

bluemax

Banned
Striker said:
OK got this shit back.

I signed LJ, Corner, and Iwebema. I will drop LE Patterson for you, LJ.

EA's drafting is such shit. I was littered with four OT's that were 79+, and they drafted TWO of them for me. :lol ... and grabbed me two guards for happiness sake. Four fucking OL.

Didn't the same thing happen to Somnia in the draft he didn't make?
 

BigAT

Member
Striker said:
OK got this shit back.

I signed LJ, Corner, and Iwebema. I will drop LE Patterson for you, LJ.

EA's drafting is such shit. I was littered with four OT's that were 79+, and they drafted TWO of them for me. :lol ... and grabbed me two guards for happiness sake. Four fucking OL.

How can you possibly complain? You got a dude named FRANCK LADYMAN.
 
bluemax said:
Did I need to? Probably not. Calling you konex 2.0 was probably a little over stating it and some of it was just frustration on my part. If a guy moves to avoid the rush, that's fine, that's football and that is smart. If a guy takes off running as soon as the ball is snapped that's kind of annoying.

Either way it wasn't that big of a factor and I adjusted and got two sacks when your QB strafed right into my defensive end who was standing there waiting for him.

Calling me Konex 2.0 was definitely overstating it

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and I definitely don't think I roll out the moment its snapped. and I know I ran two bootleg plays, one where ted ginn dropped an open pass (fuck you ted) and the other where you said, my guy ran straight into your DE
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
ph33nix said:
lol wellie is putting my "4th rounders are shit" talk to complete shame
Nah it's just our approach to the game that is a little different. Aside from work I'm not really doing much after work during the winter months except sitting at home and watching movies/playing Madden, so I've probably logged more time than most, I think that is the main diff between you and I.

When I look at these guys in the later rounds, I don't care about them starting and playing every down, I look at how they can help me per play.

I was targeting an LB in the draft as a blitz specialist, but he was taken before I could get him so I grabbed a similar guy, Faitele Fua. 90 SPD, 87 POW, 79 PUR, 93 ACC, but he is 55 OVR. I can't play him every down because he can't cover or tackle as well as other guys I have on the team, but whenever I called a blitz against Somnia I subbed him in and at different positions. I had him in there probably ten plays, dude ends up with 3 tackles, 2 for a loss, and a sack. I put him at LB, Safety, and NB throughout the game and just brought it - worked out pretty well. I am likely going to expand my D gameplan to include him more often.

I am very anal about having the right personnel on the field since the end of last season. On passing downs I want Boley and Brackett as my two LBs in Nickel, or Boley as the lone in dime. 4-3 I like to go with Williams, Bradley/Fua, and Brackett. I feel like I am very deep everywhere.

My tackle, Siemian who I mention above, I subbed him in on passing downs at TE and kept him in for max protect.

I was very happy to get all those picks in the mid rounds for this draft, there was a lot more talent than any other. I picked up a starting LG, that LB, a backup QB, and in the third I picked up a return specialist, and some other dude I can't even think of.

My D didn't do too well last night due to giving up huge plays. I expect a return to form tho.
 
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