xsarien said:Tom DeLay's seat went blue!
How do you like DEM apples!?
xsarien said:Tom DeLay's seat went blue!
How do you like DEM apples!?
Allen's Done [John Podhoretz]
MSNBC reports that there are 33,000 uncounted ballots in Fairfax County, which will presumably break for Webb.
Va. [James S. Robbins]
Most outstanding VA ballots are in Arlington, Fairfax (both Northern VA) and Richmond. So don't expect an Allen surge.
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threeball said:and what do you know?
threeball said:ok ok... you guys are pounding me for chosing a scholarship at a $30,000 per year university and a chance to play D-1 football over going into the military, if you guys are so big and tough and bad, why don't you guys join the military? pot, meet kettle
In that case, the Republicans should throw in the towel. Dems win by TKO.xsarien said:Tom DeLay's seat went blue!
How do you like DEM apples!?
xsarien said:Tom DeLay's seat went blue!
How do you like DEM apples!?
Yamauchi said:Oh crap. Jackson county is totally counted. McCaskill doesn't appear to have made the gains necessary to counter the rest of the state.
Lost Fragment said:They're going to think that no matter what we do.
Being able to turn more and more control over to the country will be a great thing provided they're able to handle the sectarian violence.
Besides, we're over in a foreign country, and we're causing assloads more damage to the country by simply being there.
It might be a moral victory for the terrorists depending on how we go about it, yes, but like I said, even if we really did "win," they'd think that they won anyway unless we kill 90% of Al-Quida and throw Bin Laden in an iron maiden.
We went over in Iraq, and have totally blown their country to Hell and back. If we stay in Iraq for longer than we need to (I.E. before their government can handle the country themselves), then we will be staying there to handle our own agendas, while not taking the health of the country's native population into consideration, which is very wrong on a moral level, IMHO.
We broke it, we bought it.
Where did anyone of us say we support the war? And that losing the war has a huge cost? Or that Pres. Bush is greatest? Or that we even agree with anything that is going on in Iraq? Where did we say that?threeball said:ok ok... you guys are pounding me for chosing a scholarship at a $30,000 per year university and a chance to play D-1 football over going into the military, if you guys are so big and tough and bad, why don't you guys join the military? pot, meet kettle
Uh... one of our generals over there saying that we had maybe six months to clean things up before we lose the confidence of the Afghani people? That was about 2 months ago, as well. Although I guess he's just a GINO.threeball said:we aren't losing control over there... infact we are more in control over there then ever... what possibly makes you think that? CNN getting to your head?
echoshifting said:You are the only person in this thread to declare he would "serve" his country if it needed him, only to back down when somebody called your bluff.
We'll be a hell of a lot closer to pushing through something for stem cells, although I don't believe enough without changing some minds as well. I might guess there will be some vetoes from Bush that moderate Republicans won't agree with.StoOgE said:could be, its been since college since I could rattle off those kinds of specifics. Its hard to pull off though, you have to have an overwhelming majority.
i'd much rather have this than some tyrant controlling that country with WMDs and constantly making threats against the country i live in. our country did what was needed. we are finishing the job. and the iraqi people are grateful that we liberated them and are helping them out.
threeball said:it would certainly send a message to terrorists that we are weak and soft and are easily swayed by anti-war propaganda. we would be ripe for an attack. we can't just quit in iraq.
threeball said:ok ok... you guys are pounding me for chosing a scholarship at a $30,000 per year university and a chance to play D-1 football over going into the military, if you guys are so big and tough and bad, why don't you guys join the military? pot, meet kettle
Shard said:Say, what happened to Amitron, one would think he would be here in this thread.
threeball said:allright, then this thread needs to back down on me for my choice.
ronito said:Where did anyone of us say we support the war? And that losing the war has a huge cost? Or that Pres. Bush is greatest? Or that we even agree with anything that is going on in Iraq? Where did we say that?
shit... you just did.xsarien said:No one's mentioned Earthbound yet.
Lost Fragment said:Egh, I was trying to have a decent debate since people seem to be too venomous towards the few republicans in this thread, but now it seems like you're just trolling.
threeball said:even democrats should know the cost of losing the war in iraq
threeball said:you guys are slamming me for not serving in iraq. why slam me when you guys are also not serving in iraq? thats like making fun of someone chickening out to ride a rollercoaster when the person making fun is also afraid of riding it.
explodet said:I'm popping in from Canada as well, pointing and laughing all the while.
PantherLotus said:While you're just miming what Rush and O'Reily say, I don't blame you, because it "sounds" right. Unfortunately, that's not how I or most of the world sees it. Right now, they way that I see it, we've encouraged terrorists more by going half-assed into a war without proper preparation, proper equipment, etc, while avoiding the actual war with the actual terrorists. I'd say that's more of an encouragement to them than anything we're doing in Iraq.
The problem is that we left Afghanistan unfinished, Bin Laden uncaptured, all for a Little-lord Jauntleroy in Iraq to defend daddy's honor. Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and we knew it. Iraq had no terrorists in there before hand and we knew it. We KNEW it would be reduced to Civil War. We KNEW that we didn't have the resources or the backbone to do what we had to do (400k thousand on the ground), and we KNEW it was all about the contracts for corporate fat cats that support the GOP.
Leaving now doesn't send a message to the terrorists other than we can learn from our mistakes.
No. It's like someone pointing at a rollercoaster and saying "Man, that rollercoaster is messed up." And another saying "I LOVE that rollercoaster! That' rollercoaster is the greatest! I'd go on that rollercoaster ten times a day! Because I'm A MAN!"threeball said:you guys are slamming me for not serving in iraq. why slam me when you guys are also not serving in iraq? thats like making fun of someone chickening out to ride a rollercoaster when the person making fun is also afraid of riding it.
threeball said:you guys are slamming me for not serving in iraq. why slam me when you guys are also not serving in iraq? thats like making fun of someone chickening out to ride a rollercoaster when the person making fun is also afraid of riding it.
please tell me how?
threeball said:how do you know there were no WMDs, terrorists, etc.? are you in the CIA? and capturing bin laden wouldn't be easy. lets see you capture one guy in a large world with plenty of places to hide? its not like he has a tracking device on him. its like trying to find a needle in a haystack, actually, more like trying to find a grain of sand in a haystack. ill be damned if anyone ever finds him.
Democratic Shuler122,932 54% 100% of precincts reporting
Republican Taylor(I)105,190 46%
ronito said:I'd like to take this chance to apologize to JayDubya, SiameseDreamer and APF for them having red or worse reputation points and 3b here getting through unscathed. I'm sorry vatos.
threeball said:how do you know there were no WMDs, terrorists, etc.? are you in the CIA? and capturing bin laden wouldn't be easy. lets see you capture one guy in a large world with plenty of places to hide? its not like he has a tracking device on him. its like trying to find a needle in a haystack, actually, more like trying to find a grain of sand in a haystack. ill be damned if anyone ever finds him.
Mandark said:Personally, I want to cop to being way off on Lieberman/Lamont/Whatshisname.
The Democratic Party couldn't throw everything it had at him, even officially supporting Lamont, because of the possibility of him winning and defecting. Which was totally predictable right from the primaries, and I didn't figure out because I was stupid.
Thanks everybody for not taking the bet!
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threeball said:im done with this thread. im not going into it anymore.
I swear that someone took you up on that bet. I was about to do it.Mandark said:Personally, I want to cop to being way off on Lieberman/Lamont/Whatshisname.
The Democratic Party couldn't throw everything it had at him, even officially supporting Lamont, because of the possibility of him winning and defecting. Which was totally predictable right from the primaries, and I didn't figure out because I was stupid.
Thanks everybody for not taking the bet!